fabien wrote:
> hello guys,
> it has been 2 years since I left the netherlands and stop playing
> vtes...
> now I have an house and more time for me so I would like to go back to
> the game. I am looking for player in the south of paris but it is not
> the topic of my post.
> Whitin 2 years 3 new editions appear:
> kindred most wanted
> legacy
> dead rekoning
> if some of you are ready to give me the good and bad of these editions
> and which deck or edition you need to buy please answer to this post, I
> need help!!!
>
> I have all the cards in 2 or 3 before the CE edition and I am limited
> in CE and bloodvine rare, so I do prefere to play 1-2 or 2-3 groups.
Well, as with any exapansion, you don't _need_ to buy any of it ... but
hard to resist, really, isn't it?
It really depends on what you like. None of the sets will be a
tremendous help to the Camarilla clans, at least in the way of new
vampires or clan-specific cards. Only the Kindred Most Wanted set has 1
vampire per Camarilla clan (2 Nosferatu), and some reprinted vampires
in the Alastor deck. Mainly, though, it's group 4 vampires, with a
focus on Baali and !Gangrel. The other two sets, Legacy of Blood and
Nights of Reckoning, offer no specific boost to the Camarilla.
To give more detail on what's been said:
Kindred Most Wanted
Introduced a new mechanic, Red List. Red List is a trait on a minion,
allowing other Methuselah's vampires to rush them (requiring a master
phase action to 'mark them', and a blood to attempt to rush at +1
stealth). A number of cards also interact with the Red List Mechanic,
most notably Trophy master cards, which can be placed on a minion who
successfully burns a Red List minion through a directed action. The set
brought in a bunch of new Baali, and also gave the !Gangrel their
starter deck. The other two precon decks are named Alastor and
Anathema. The Alastor deck focuses on those who hunt the Red List,
while the Anathema deck comprises of a lot of the Red Listed vampires.
The set also brought in a number of group 4 Independents and new clan
toys for them. A new clan was introduced, Abomination, though it
comprises of only 3 vampires, one in each group from 2 to 4 and though
potentially potent, each has flaws that limit usefulness unless you
plan around it.
Some find the Red List/Trophy rules to be a bit pointless, while others
(myself included) love it. But overall I found it to be a pretty solid
set.
Legacies of Blood
A combination of introducing the Laibon clans as well as expanding the
Bloodlines. Introduced a new sect, Laibon, with four new clans:
Akunase, Guruhi, Ishtarri and Osebo, virtually all group 4. A new
discipline, Abombwe was introduced (in-clan with the Akunase), with a
number of new cards for it. New group 4 bloodline vampires were brought
in, with a group 3 or Advanced vampire for some of them. Library cards
are a mix of new cards for the Laibon and reprints from the Bloodlines
set, though with a couple of new cards for most of the Bloodline clans
as well. No help for the Camarilla, and a little boost to Lasombra and
Tzimisce.
The Laibon bring a lot of new stuff to the table, and I haven't heard
complaints about this set, beyond the quibbles over the reprints and
some changes in rarity of the Bloodlines cards.
Nights of Reckoning
Focuses entirely on a new crypt minion, Imbued, who are mortal allies
that you influence out, all of which are group 4. A mini-set with a
limited number of cards, 60 total, with 20 Imbued and 40 library cards.
As mentioned earlier, only one card will be of any use outside of using
the Imbued. Though you can play Imbued with vampires, the Imbued cards
are not usable by vampires, and discipline cards are not usable by the
Imbued. The set brings in two new card types, Convictions and Powers,
usuable only by the Imbued, with new mechanics on playing them. If
you're looking to boost just your vampires, then this set isn't of
interest.
This set has been getting a lot of table hate. With so many new cards,
concepts and mechanics, the Imbued don't seamlessly enter into play
like a new vampire would or a new card. They have different abilities
and ways of doing things that most players, especially new ones, don't
have a full grasp of. The Imbued bring out a lot of cards, so there is
a lot of set up each turn, as well as checking to see just what has
been put into play by the Imbued player. Some decks make use of a lot
of the Gehenna events as well, since being allies, they are unaffected
by a lot of the effects. I believe though that once the newness dies
down, as the cards and concepts are better understood and memorized by
players, that games will speed up again, and the Imbued will not be as
common as they currently are.
Also, as you may be aware, next month a new set is being released, 3rd
Edition, though it is a Sabbat expansion, with the Precons being
Tzimisce, !Tremere, !Brujah and !Malkavian, though again this will be
group 4 vampires, and of course, Sabbat ones. The library cards will be
mostly reprints, as it is a base set, though there are 36 new library
cards as well.
Hope this helps,
Welcome back to the game,
Chris, Thrall of Arika
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