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On 2 May, 09:51, Alphawolf <gnuthu....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT), neithskye
>
> <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 1, 6:30 am, josephus <dogb....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >As a Paladin I would seriously research the items you can make at the
> >higher levels.
>
> >Now's he's Holy and BSing offers very little for Holy; some bracers, I
> >think.
>
> BS offers little to Prot as well.  I bought some epic boot plans for
> the day he finally hits 70 and maxes his BS.  Perhaps WOTLK will fill
> in some of the gaps.
>
> >In the end, I wish I'd choosen Enchanting for him.
>
> Yeah, I wish I'd just taken up a second gathering profession instead
> of BS.  So far it's the most useless production profession I've done.

And it's rediculous how much Thorium you need to get past the levels
that need it. That's where I gave up on Blacksmithing on my Paladin.
And I was also a little miffed that Fel Iron Bars take two ores not
one. Like the professions that need mining to level up aren't hard
enough.

I'm undecided whether I'll go Ret and PvP or Prot and PvE for my
Paladin when he gets to 70. If I go Ret PvP the weaponsmith weapons
might be good to get but I'm not sure that I can be bothered to level
it even for that - I'll just grind honour for the PvP Weapons. I'll
probably go PvE anyway as I'm going to be PvPing with my Rogue.

steve.kaye
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On May 2, 8:58 am, Catriona R <catrionarNOS....TakeThisOut@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> Blacksmithing is horrendous to skill up even at the lowest levels - it's
> the only profession I had to go out specifically to grind for at low levels
> even *before* the levelling speed changes. And I'm talking like lvl 20
> here, I spent ages running around Elwynn Forest mining copper :-/ Every
> other crafting profession can be levelled relatively well as you quest (or
> could before levelling sped up, it's tougher now), but not BS (plus half
> the stuff you make is white, or got spirit on, so kinda useless). My
> blacksmith is still lvl 30 so not reached the higher levels, but her
> skillups so far came from the results of skilling up mining on 2 other
> characters... given that I sold all the thorium (as I can't use it yet) I'm
> not looking forward to reaching that stage at all.

Yeah, the Armorsmith questline, and the quests to get all the Imperial
Plate stuff, was awful. To get the required Mithril, I rode around and
around The Charred Vale. For hours at a time. For days at a time.

For the Throium, I farmed that Garrison Armory place in The Blasted
Lands. For hours at a time. For days a time. There were days that I
didn't actually play - I just farmed that Armory. Do a circle, walk to
the end, walk back to the entrance, wait for vein respawns, repeat.

Maybe it's the same with other professions, but, for example, by the
time I'd grinded the appropriate mobs, finally had the three recipes
drop, farmed the required amount of Khorium, Primal Water and Primal
Mana to make the Khorium Ward set, I had enough marks and honour to
purchase the S1 belt, pants and boots.

--
Jill

(I need to learn how to record where Khorium spawns. It's not like
cloth where you can just farm humanoids, it seems totally random, and
I can ride around for hours and not find one vein - my Paladin's been
lvl 70 since September, and I think in that whole time I've only been
able to collect 40 bars.)
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On May 2, 8:18 am, neithskye <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS... RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Jill
>
> (I need to learn how to record where Khorium spawns. It's not like
> cloth where you can just farm humanoids, it seems totally random, and
> I can ride around for hours and not find one vein - my Paladin's been
> lvl 70 since September, and I think in that whole time I've only been
> able to collect 40 bars.)

Jill,

AFAIK, Khorium can spawn in place of any Outlands mineral node, it
just rarely happens. It did make for some fun times when TBC first
came out, though. Everyone mining HFP, eventually every node re-
popped as Khorium, and no one had the skill to mine it

I use gatherer to track nodes for me, and 9 times out of 10, any time
I find a Khorium node, it's on a pre-existing mineral location. And
those that aren't, I eventually discover a "normal" mineral node
there.
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On Fri, 2 May 2008 05:30:59 -0700 (PDT), "steve.kaye"
<nospam RemoveThis @giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:

>> Yeah, I wish I'd just taken up a second gathering profession instead
>> of BS.  So far it's the most useless production profession I've done.
>
>And it's rediculous how much Thorium you need to get past the levels
>that need it. That's where I gave up on Blacksmithing on my Paladin.
>And I was also a little miffed that Fel Iron Bars take two ores not
>one. Like the professions that need mining to level up aren't hard
>enough.

Blacksmithing is horrendous to skill up even at the lowest levels - it's
the only profession I had to go out specifically to grind for at low levels
even *before* the levelling speed changes. And I'm talking like lvl 20
here, I spent ages running around Elwynn Forest mining copper :-/ Every
other crafting profession can be levelled relatively well as you quest (or
could before levelling sped up, it's tougher now), but not BS (plus half
the stuff you make is white, or got spirit on, so kinda useless). My
blacksmith is still lvl 30 so not reached the higher levels, but her
skillups so far came from the results of skilling up mining on 2 other
characters... given that I sold all the thorium (as I can't use it yet) I'm
not looking forward to reaching that stage at all.
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On Fri, 2 May 2008 05:30:59 -0700 (PDT), "steve.kaye"
<nospam DeleteThis @giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:

>And it's rediculous how much Thorium you need to get past the levels
>that need it. That's where I gave up on Blacksmithing on my Paladin.
>And I was also a little miffed that Fel Iron Bars take two ores not
>one. Like the professions that need mining to level up aren't hard
>enough.

The Thorium segment of BSing is, indeed a royal pain, though it's
alot easier now.

Un'Goro crater circuits used to be the only viable one to do it fast
enough not to die of boredom.. But now that the Silithids are no
longer elite, the burrows in Silithus are great. There's a fair amount
of free-standing Thorium (and Arcane Crystals, of course) as well
there.

Maybe people didn't automatically think of it because it's such a
god-awful zone to get through, but without the elite hives....

I think I did Un'Goro and Silithus twice each (that is, two complete
sessions of maybe 2 hours) to get just about all the way through that
segment. Maybe had to go back once more, it was a while ago.

I also remember seeing al lthat Fel Ore while I was levelling through
Hellfire etc.. of course, when I went back to mine it there wa very
little to be found.
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On Fri, 02 May 2008 03:32:41 -0500, josephus <dogbird.RemoveThis@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> I dont have enough money to go buy at AH, I only have 1 gold or so
>for each character.
>
> most of my characters are between 15 and 30

Gah! Learn to use the AH, to sell the stuff you don't have a use for.
I've started 2 toons *just* to be bankers, unfortunately the first
discovered she had to go out into the world and level up if she wanted
to get Tailoring and Enchanting above level 75 (*stupid* choices for a
Warrior, but not shabby for a banker, if they hadn't made that rule),
and she's going to ding 70 as soon as I can stand to work on her a bit
(dinged 69 the night before last), and the second one got bored
standing around Darnassus, and I wanted to see how a Rogue played, so
she's now 53 (and a *blast* to play). But because I've always used the
AH to sell stuff (and speculate a *little* bit, but I can't resist a
bargain that I *know* will sell for a lot more) all 6 of my toons that
hit 40 got their mount right away (ok, so one (the Pally) was free,
but I had/have the money for her), same for the 2 who hit 60. I had
the money for the slow flying mount when my main hit 70, it took a
while before I saved enough for her epic, but the Warrior *should* be
able to get her epic when she dings 70 (within 1K or so if I combine
the Main's funds with the Banker's and hers)

> It is not a problem just
>wondering if I could give it to some low level gun type. I had some 10
>sets of shot that I just destroyed.

>josephus

Sure can If you can't sell it on the AH, carry it around until you
see someone of the appropriate level with a gun, they'll love you for
it.

ald
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On Fri, 02 May 2008 03:50:38 -0500, josephus <dogbird DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
wrote:

>I have several low level chars some have professions and some do not. I
>have my warlock and mage are engineers. the paladin is a miner and a
>blacksmith. but my ORC is a miner and my druid is not. the biggest
>problem I have is understanding how to level up the enchanting. so I
>have all my characters (level 15 to level 30) looking for low level
>greens and I just have not seen any suitable greens.
>
>josephus

First off, DEing stuff will only get you about 40 (? Maybe less)
points, you have to *make* stuff to level up enchanting. The problem
there is getting the materials, which *can* come from DEing stuff, or
be bought at the AH. Warning, though: Enchanting is *very* expensive
to level up, I'm doing my best not to invest gold in it and as a
result my Chanter is basically stuck at around 268 (and has a *ton* of
stuff that didn't sell at the AH that needs 275 Enchanting to DE).

ald
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On Fri, 2 May 2008 05:30:59 -0700 (PDT), "steve.kaye"
<nospam.DeleteThis@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:

>On 2 May, 09:51, Alphawolf <gnuthu....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 May 2008 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT), neithskye
>>
>> <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 1, 6:30 am, josephus <dogb....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >As a Paladin I would seriously research the items you can make at the
>> >higher levels.
>>
>> >Now's he's Holy and BSing offers very little for Holy; some bracers, I
>> >think.
>>
>> BS offers little to Prot as well.  I bought some epic boot plans for
>> the day he finally hits 70 and maxes his BS.  Perhaps WOTLK will fill
>> in some of the gaps.
>>
>> >In the end, I wish I'd choosen Enchanting for him.
>>
>> Yeah, I wish I'd just taken up a second gathering profession instead
>> of BS.  So far it's the most useless production profession I've done.
>
>And it's rediculous how much Thorium you need to get past the levels
>that need it. That's where I gave up on Blacksmithing on my Paladin.

Well, that's where I broke the rules. I looked up the specialization
quests and thought the mats "wasted" were just incredible, so I didn't
do them. There are BoE patterns out there you can get that will take
you past that rough spot in the high 200s. I still used a lot of
thorium but not nearly so much I think, or the opening mats for that
matter. I've found BS relatively easy to level once I was past 300,
even though all of the items made seem to be oriented to dps and not
tanking.

So I'm 350ish BS without a specialization. Up to this point at least,
that's not been a problem since none of the specialty items from
either armorsmithing or weaponsmithing are causing me to lose any
sleep for my Prot pally.

----
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Fthagn, Undead Warrior
Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
Curwen, Blood Knight
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ald wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 03:50:38 -0500, josephus <dogbird DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have several low level chars some have professions and some do not. I
>> have my warlock and mage are engineers. the paladin is a miner and a
>> blacksmith. but my ORC is a miner and my druid is not. the biggest
>> problem I have is understanding how to level up the enchanting. so I
>> have all my characters (level 15 to level 30) looking for low level
>> greens and I just have not seen any suitable greens.
>>
>> josephus
>
> First off, DEing stuff will only get you about 40 (? Maybe less)
> points, you have to *make* stuff to level up enchanting. The problem
> there is getting the materials, which *can* come from DEing stuff, or
> be bought at the AH. Warning, though: Enchanting is *very* expensive
> to level up, I'm doing my best not to invest gold in it and as a
> result my Chanter is basically stuck at around 268 (and has a *ton* of
> stuff that didn't sell at the AH that needs 275 Enchanting to DE).
>
> ald
> reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com

there is so much bad news about enchanting. I wish I had seen that
before I got involved with it.

the engineering, I have my paladin mining and blacksmithing and sending
stuff to the warlock engineer, that makes and sells stuff. (99% that he
just could not use at all) but if I see some gun toting toon that is
interested, I will arrange to create as much shot as he desires. and the
low grade armour what kinds of prices would it get on AH?

josephus
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On Sat, 03 May 2008 19:17:16 -0500, josephus <dogbird.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>and the
>low grade armour what kinds of prices would it get on AH?
>
>josephus

That can vary quite a bit from realm to realm. I think it's Thottbot
that lists an average price for most items, but the best way to know
what the price is on *your* realm is to download (and *use*)
Auctioneer. Again, this is where having a banker comes in handy, you
can either start a new toon and immediately run him to the nearest
capitol city, or what I do is spend a couple hours at most getting
them through the starter area (so they can pick up professions, but
that has led to the problems I described previously), *then* run to
the city. Then find a 5-15 minute time when your computer is on but
you're not at it (when I take my shower works for me) and let the
banker scan the AH during this time. After a week of doing this at
*least* every other day, preferably every day, you'll have a pretty
good idea of prices, after 2 weeks you'll be very well set.

ald
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josephus <dogbird DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:

> ald wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 May 2008 03:50:38 -0500, josephus <dogbird DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have several low level chars some have professions and some do not. I
> >> have my warlock and mage are engineers. the paladin is a miner and a
> >> blacksmith. but my ORC is a miner and my druid is not. the biggest
> >> problem I have is understanding how to level up the enchanting. so I
> >> have all my characters (level 15 to level 30) looking for low level
> >> greens and I just have not seen any suitable greens.
> >>
> >> josephus
> >
> > First off, DEing stuff will only get you about 40 (? Maybe less)
> > points, you have to *make* stuff to level up enchanting. The problem
> > there is getting the materials, which *can* come from DEing stuff, or
> > be bought at the AH. Warning, though: Enchanting is *very* expensive
> > to level up, I'm doing my best not to invest gold in it and as a
> > result my Chanter is basically stuck at around 268 (and has a *ton* of
> > stuff that didn't sell at the AH that needs 275 Enchanting to DE).
> >
> > ald
> > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com
>
> there is so much bad news about enchanting. I wish I had seen that
> before I got involved with it.
>
> the engineering, I have my paladin mining and blacksmithing and sending
> stuff to the warlock engineer, that makes and sells stuff. (99% that he
> just could not use at all) but if I see some gun toting toon that is
> interested, I will arrange to create as much shot as he desires. and the
> low grade armour what kinds of prices would it get on AH?
>
> josephus

Sheesh - everyone's so down on professions that require a teeny bit of
effort. Maybe it's just cause I'm newer to the game, but IME if you pick
decent professions when you begin your character you should have no
trouble levelling them up as you progress - unless you're power
levelling through the game, in which case you better have plenty of gold
in lieu of time to level professions. Me? I'm still enjoying playing
through the game with multiple characters.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
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On Sun, 4 May 2008 14:49:09 +1200, jamiekg.RemoveThis@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
Kahn Genet) wrote:

>Sheesh - everyone's so down on professions that require a teeny bit of
>effort. Maybe it's just cause I'm newer to the game, but IME if you pick
>decent professions when you begin your character you should have no
>trouble levelling them up as you progress - unless you're power
>levelling through the game, in which case you better have plenty of gold
>in lieu of time to level professions. Me? I'm still enjoying playing
>through the game with multiple characters.
>
>Regards,
> Jamie Kahn Genet

I am too, and with *all* professions on one toon or another, and yeah,
most of them level up their profession at about the same rate as the
toon, but the Chanter is the exception. She basically hit a wall
somewhere around 225, just checked and she's at 263 currently, 4/5 of
a level away from 70, and even when I push her to 275 so she can DE
all the literally hundreds of items in her mail, I don't see the wall
being overcome ;-(

ald
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ald <103175.3500.TakeThisOut@compuserve.com> wrote in
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> I am too, and with *all* professions on one toon or another, and yeah,
> most of them level up their profession at about the same rate as the
> toon, but the Chanter is the exception. She basically hit a wall
> somewhere around 225, just checked and she's at 263 currently, 4/5 of
> a level away from 70, and even when I push her to 275 so she can DE
> all the literally hundreds of items in her mail, I don't see the wall
> being overcome ;-(

I've had pretty good luck with this guide:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~brt/wow/guides/skillupenchanting.html

Try to get the White Bandit Mask tailor recipe. It's good for conversion of
Mageweave to dusts and essences and is actually profitable.
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