Xbox 360 outsells the PS3, Wii destroys both

On Mar 9, 11:49 am, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 11:37 pm, "Andre Matuch" <n....RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote:
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> > "The alMIGHTY N" <natle....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:6011b9ac-b55c-4eb7-9ab7-d4e9a5448b2f@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
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> > > On Mar 7, 12:28 pm, Mattinglyfan <kyler.jack....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mar 6, 8:53 pm, RMZ <Jeremy.De....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> > On Mar 6, 9:28 pm, Mattinglyfan <kyler.jack....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> > > On Mar 6, 8:25 pm, RMZ <Jeremy.De....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> > > > VGCharts... can't trust this site, however I suspect on the
> > >> > > > official
> > >> > > > numbers (NPD data) we'll see a similar trend.
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> > >> > > Why do people only ever post North American sales rather than
> > >> > > worldwide?
>
> > >> > Because this NG consist of mostly Americans and you know we are
> > >> > superfical and really don't care about the rest of the world... Ok, so
> > >> > on a serious note, the reason is simple, when it comes to video game
> > >> > consoles no one looks at world wide sales, because historically it's a
> > >> > very regionalized product. If the PS3 is #1 in Japan it has no bearing
> > >> > on you as a UK or US citizen and it would be very, very poor decision
> > >> > to buy a console based off it's units sold numbers in another region
> > >> > of the world. Likewise with the 360, if it's #1 in the US and you live
> > >> > in Japan you probably would do better to go with a product that's
> > >> > selling better locally. It's really not all that hard to understand.
>
> > >> > Really the only reason to bring the global sales numbers into focus at
> > >> > all is to play fan boy and brag. If you want to play that game, oddly
> > >> > enough it's Nintendo fans who have all the bragging rights in the
> > >> > world and that crowd seems more concerned with enjoying their games
> > >> > and talking about how well their brand is selling.
>
> > >> How does global sales not play a role in non-fanboy discussion? The
> > >> success of a console as a whole directly influences publisher support
> > >> and publisher support is all I care about. This group has quite a few
> > >> people from the U.K., so are you saying the fact that the PS3 has
> > >> tremendous momentum isn't important to them as well?
>
> > > The success of a console in Europe and Japan isn't as significant as
> > > the success of a console in North America because the bigger third-
> > > party publishers, who really determine the quality and depth of a
> > > console's software library, are based in the United States and care
> > > much more about American game sales and the American market is *the*
> > > bread and butter of all the top third-party publishers, American or
> > > not.
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> > > Hypothetical situation: Every third-party publisher has to choose only
> > > one region to support going forward. Which third-party publishers do
> > > you think will choose Europe or Japan?
>
> > Europe has a handful of developers now and Japan is still considered as
> > having the best first and third-party developers... however, the question
> > is, who is CONSIDERING these supposed facts? When it comes to first-person
> > shooters, Japan is absolutely non-existent in the genre. When it comes to
> > sports, with the possible exception of the Winning Eleven series, Japan has
> > nothing in the form of simulation. That field is covered by Electronic Arts
> > and Take Two. When it comes to action games, Japan has its style and North
> > America has its own style as well. North America seems to develop games
> > similar to and including Grand Theft Auto with realistic plots. Japan
> > prefers to develop very stylish button-mashers with increasingly
> > non-sensical and fantasy storylines. For every Japanese game in which the
> > hero has funky hair of an unnatural color, there is an American game in
> > which the hairstyles and colors are common.
>
> > The question we all have to ask ourselves is whether we are more content in
> > playing FIFA 08, NBA Street Homecourt, Grand Theft Auto 4 and Call of Duty 4
> > or whether we prefer their Japanese counterparts... My opinion is that games
> > are increasingly being developed in the West and that the games westerners
> > play are also being developed here. As a result, you have a strong argument
> > in saying that western developers - who are gaining importance - will want
> > to develop for the audience that buys its content: the West.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Frankly, I'm a little tired of "hyper-Westernized" games like
> Conflict: Denied Ops, where everything is supposed to be uber-
> realistic, generic and flavorless, and I'm also tired of "hyper-
> Japanese" games, where there's far too much emphasis on emo-lite
> angst, goofy hair, and anime conventions over gameplay. I want a
> return to the philosophy of the 8-bit and 16-bit eras- mix the
> conventions of Western action/drama and Japanese "whimsy" so that
> games have a personality, but still get the job done gameplay-wise
> without being overwhelmed with "too much story" (or underwhelmed with
> no story at all).

That's not an unreasonable desire. Whether companies are ever going to
go this route is the question...

> I think Capcom did a good job making Devil May Cry 4 more westernized,
> while keeping enough flavor to avoid it losing all personality. After
> the mess of MGS2, Kojima figured out reintroducing the Rambo element
> would help MGS3. Fable, Mass Effect, and other western adventure
> games are moving away from the dry, D&D clone approach to something
> more akin to what the Japanese have done to distinguish their games,
> while Final Fantasy XII has shown the Japanese are trying to tone down
> some of their excesses.

What Japanese influences were there on Mass Effect?

> The future is not in emphasizing the divide, but rather bridging the
> gap.

Certainly something to consider...
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But what were the global sales figures?

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On Mar 10, 6:06 pm, Bill Cable <billca... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> But what were the global sales figures?

According to VGChartz.com, the Playstation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 by
almost 27k over the course of the week ending March 1.
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On Mar 11, 10:09 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> According to VGChartz.com, the Playstation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 by
> almost 27k over the course of the week ending March 1.

So if this trend keeps up the PS3 would finally surpass the 360's
total sales by, when, 2010?
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On Mar 11, 11:32 am, Tomcat <tom_overton_1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 10:09 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > According to VGChartz.com, the Playstation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 by
> > almost 27k over the course of the week ending March 1.
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> So if this trend keeps up the PS3 would finally surpass the 360's
> total sales by, when, 2010?

I believe it would be later than that if the Playstation 3 maintained
this lead.

However, it's likely the Xbox 360 will regain the lead for a while
once the supply is fixed.

It should see some sales spikes from the upcoming price drops but it
would be foolish to think that Sony would not match a price drop
within a couple of months.

Further, it would be foolish to think that sales of PS3's WON'T spike
when Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out (the question is simply what kind of
spike will see in June).
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"Andre Matuch" <no DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=889

Told yah to wait until NPD numbers came in.
360 did "not" out sell the PS3.
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On Mar 11, 1:11 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, Tomcat <tom_overton_1....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 11, 10:09 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > According to VGChartz.com, the Playstation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 by
> > > almost 27k over the course of the week ending March 1.
>
> > So if this trend keeps up the PS3 would finally surpass the 360's
> > total sales by, when, 2010?
>
> I believe it would be later than that if the Playstation 3 maintained
> this lead.
>
> However, it's likely the Xbox 360 will regain the lead for a while
> once the supply is fixed.
>
> It should see some sales spikes from the upcoming price drops but it
> would be foolish to think that Sony would not match a price drop
> within a couple of months.
>
> Further, it would be foolish to think that sales of PS3's WON'T spike
> when Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out (the question is simply what kind of
> spike will see in June).

I think people are expecting too much from MGS4. This is not a system
seller as, say, FFXIII. It will add some numbers, but not nearly as
much as many seem to think.
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Wolfing wrote:
> On Mar 11, 1:11 pm, The alMIGHTY N <natle....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, Tomcat <tom_overton_1....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 11, 10:09 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> According to VGChartz.com, the Playstation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 by
>>>> almost 27k over the course of the week ending March 1.
>>> So if this trend keeps up the PS3 would finally surpass the 360's
>>> total sales by, when, 2010?
>> I believe it would be later than that if the Playstation 3 maintained
>> this lead.
>>
>> However, it's likely the Xbox 360 will regain the lead for a while
>> once the supply is fixed.
>>
>> It should see some sales spikes from the upcoming price drops but it
>> would be foolish to think that Sony would not match a price drop
>> within a couple of months.
>>
>> Further, it would be foolish to think that sales of PS3's WON'T spike
>> when Metal Gear Solid 4 comes out (the question is simply what kind of
>> spike will see in June).
>
> I think people are expecting too much from MGS4. This is not a system
> seller as, say, FFXIII. It will add some numbers, but not nearly as
> much as many seem to think.

Considering the strong movement toward casual games as showcased by the
Nintendo Wii, MGS 4 is a step in the wrong direction. It caters to the
most hardcore players, but only the hardest of that core are willing to
be patient through cutscenes and uninviting controls. For instance, I am
a hardcore player who is willing to learn the complex controls of NHL
2K8 because of my strong love for hockey but because of my age, I have
less of an interest in learning the combos and special moves in games
like Street Fighter.

MGS 4, from the previews and from an existing history of its games has a
very unnatural control scheme. It is fairly easy to learn for the
dedicated players, but casual gamers will not buy into it simply because
they'll have trouble figuring it out. How can you sell a system to Joe
Regular and Sue Generic when the bundled game requires a thorough
reading of the manual? Teenagers and early 20-somethings will be willing
to buy it and learn its controls, but late 20-somethings and people in
their 30's will likely get fed up and put in a simpler game.

That's not to say that the game won't be good. I am convinced that it'll
be excellent and an envy of all 360 players. However, it is not as much
of a system seller as Sony and others would have you believe.
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