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Sammus McMouldenus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:49 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:10 pm
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Mac Cool wrote:
> What does the following gibberish mean?
>
> "You don't have a 1080i display they don't exist. I have one at work it
> weighs 300 pounds and is only 23 inches. Everyone that has a non-CRT has
> a progressive display, those 1080i in's are scaled to something."

I think he's trying to say that there are no sets that are natively
1080i, that all sets have a native resolution lower than 1080i and the
higher resolution is accomplished via scaling.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:35 pm
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What does the following gibberish mean?

"You don't have a 1080i display they don't exist. I have one at work it
weighs 300 pounds and is only 23 inches. Everyone that has a non-CRT has
a progressive display, those 1080i in's are scaled to something."

The gray text on white background sucks, as does the shitty grammar. The
comments at the bottom are amusing.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:49 pm
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Mac Cool wrote:
> What does the following gibberish mean?
>
> "You don't have a 1080i display they don't exist. I have one at work it
> weighs 300 pounds and is only 23 inches. Everyone that has a non-CRT has
> a progressive display, those 1080i in's are scaled to something."
>
> The gray text on white background sucks, as does the shitty grammar. The
> comments at the bottom are amusing.
>

The whole article seems to be based on the premise that you wont notice
the differences so long as you've got your tele set up really really
poorly.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:53 pm
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Mac Cool wrote:
> Unmutual:
>
> >> I think he's trying to say that there are no sets that are natively
> >> 1080i, that all sets have a native resolution lower than 1080i and the
> >> higher resolution is accomplished via scaling.
> >
> > And that all 1080i displays actually output a progressive signal
> > irrespective of input.
>
> So supposably my 1080i RP is actually 720p upscaled?
>
> Theory blown, my set doesn't support 720p and a 1080i broadcast is like
> being there. I can see the pores in skin.

I didn't say he was RIGHT. :^) I was just trying to clarify what I
thought he was saying.

In your case he'd probably argue that your set is scaling up a 480p
image. Yeah. Right.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:20 pm
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Jordan wrote:
> Mac Cool wrote:
>> What does the following gibberish mean?
>>
>> "You don't have a 1080i display they don't exist. I have one at work it
>> weighs 300 pounds and is only 23 inches. Everyone that has a non-CRT has
>> a progressive display, those 1080i in's are scaled to something."
>
> I think he's trying to say that there are no sets that are natively
> 1080i, that all sets have a native resolution lower than 1080i and the
> higher resolution is accomplished via scaling.
>
> - Jordan
>

And that all 1080i displays actually output a progressive signal
irrespective of input.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:32 am
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Unmutual:

>> I think he's trying to say that there are no sets that are natively
>> 1080i, that all sets have a native resolution lower than 1080i and the
>> higher resolution is accomplished via scaling.
>
> And that all 1080i displays actually output a progressive signal
> irrespective of input.

So supposably my 1080i RP is actually 720p upscaled?

Theory blown, my set doesn't support 720p and a 1080i broadcast is like
being there. I can see the pores in skin.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:06 am
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Jordan:

> I didn't say he was RIGHT. :^) I was just trying to clarify what I
> thought he was saying.
>
> In your case he'd probably argue that your set is scaling up a 480p
> image. Yeah. Right.

No, I know you weren't saying he was right.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:56 am
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Mac Cool wrote:
> Unmutual:
>
>>> I think he's trying to say that there are no sets that are natively
>>> 1080i, that all sets have a native resolution lower than 1080i and the
>>> higher resolution is accomplished via scaling.
>> And that all 1080i displays actually output a progressive signal
>> irrespective of input.
>
> So supposably my 1080i RP is actually 720p upscaled?
>
> Theory blown, my set doesn't support 720p and a 1080i broadcast is like
> being there. I can see the pores in skin.
>

No....it's most likely a 1080 image downscaled. What is the native
resolution of your screen?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:20 am
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Unmutual:
> No....it's most likely a 1080 image downscaled. What is the native
> resolution of your screen?

1080i
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:43 pm
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Mac Cool wrote:
> Unmutual:
>> No....it's most likely a 1080 image downscaled. What is the native
>> resolution of your screen?
>
> 1080i

That's not a resolution. Let me explain.....I own a Pioneer 43" plasma
tele which can display 720p and 1080i. However, the native resolution of
my screen is 1024x768. Whatever source I feed my TV it is scaled to this
resolution. I think the article is suggesting that there are very few
screens which have a native vertical resolution of 1080. The Pioneer
5000EX has a native resolution of 1920x1080 which means that it will
display a true 1080 image without any scaling and it should look
stunning. But then that TV costs around £6000....
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:43 pm
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"Unmutual" <andrewstirling.RemoveThis@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mac Cool wrote:
>> Unmutual:
>>> No....it's most likely a 1080 image downscaled. What is the native
>>> resolution of your screen?
>>
>> 1080i
>
> That's not a resolution. Let me explain.....I own a Pioneer 43"
> plasma tele which can display 720p and 1080i. However, the native
> resolution of my screen is 1024x768. Whatever source I feed my TV it
> is scaled to this resolution. I think the article is suggesting that
> there are very few screens which have a native vertical resolution
> of 1080. The Pioneer 5000EX has a native resolution of 1920x1080
> which means that it will display a true 1080 image without any
> scaling and it should look stunning. But then that TV costs around
> £6000....

If it's a CRT based set, the resolution is 1080i native.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:03 am
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Unmutual:

>> 1080i
>
> That's not a resolution. Let me explain...

Well, I suppose you are right, it's half the notation for a resolution.
I just figured that most people would be able to figure out the other
half.

> I own a Pioneer 43" plasma tele which can display 720p and 1080i.
> However, the native resolution of my screen is 1024x768.

Maybe that is why plasmas look grainy.
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