New Wing Code (Discussion)

They already have this edge.

They just need a leader with the insight for the need to make use of it and
the time and dedication to do it.

Fighters are broken.

That wings work better busted up and in smaller units than what would fill a
fighter hold is contrary to the game design

What is suggested is just a patch. If we're willing to accept our wings are
flown by tardos, so be it. Id rather this isn't the case though....
whatever the case: something really needs to be done about fighters.


"KlingonKommand" <Paul.DeleteThis@nurk.fnord> wrote in message
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> Previously, you made your choices and were stuck with them. It forced
> people to think ahead. I liked that. But I like your idea better.
>
> However I would like it balanced by giving ships more flexibility.
> Something like a command code to make them stick closer to their fleet
> leader in battle, for example. Otherwise fighter races get a significant
> new edge.
> --
> Paul Honigmann

Thanks everyone for your feedback:

g....RemoveThis@gtoeroe.de
>>But a little more work has to be done to merge the right micro wings into one wing back and dock it to the carriers in the case that you attack with many of such Bxx-wings<<
True this needs to be added after combat, I see each wing as a Squadron
with its formation command (Bxx) and each squadron of fighters acts
like a wing does now. If a squadron of wings breaks up into formation
for combat, I would see that formation of fights comming back together
into the same Squadron Wing after combat. i.e. if two Wings (Squadrons)
enter combat and break up into formation, then after combat the 2
Squadron Wings reform back into its group and will leave (assuming the
Squadron Wing is not destroyed) as two wings again.

>>What if the carrier itself is destroyed .<<
If two docked Squadron wings enter combat (A & B) and each wing is
docked ShipA and ShipB. If ShipA gets destroyed, what happens to the
Wing that was docked to Ship A in the current code. I personally do not
know the answer to this, but I do not see the Bxx command code changing
what ever currently happens in that case.

morningstar
>>add some code to maintain the integrety of the wing distribution<<
True! This would have to be added in and catered for.

Sir Dave
>>Makes the Air Attack Base almost useless<<
I don't see how this code makes Air Attack Bases useless. You still
need something to get Wings into Space. You still need something to
create mixtures of Wings. The Bxx code will not do this for you.

>>Makes Resource Points less meaningful<<
I would agree to disagree. Resource Points, as I see them, is a
software limit placed on the game so that Low Spec PC machines do not
run into memory usage errors. And I see the Bxx Code a useful way of
expanding the game and reducing Resource Point usage if your game style
prefers the usage of many smaller wings.

>> Makes Fighter Bay size less restricting<<
The Fighter Bay size restriction is still upheld. Under current coding
you cannot dock a Wing greater that the total Fighter Bay size to a
ship. The Bxx code would not affect this restriction to docked wings.

>> Fighter combat logic still to be fixed...<<
True! Fighter combat and Ship combat are still under review and need
some tinkering.

soxee
>>If it becomes too powerful simply increase fighter cost<<
Such a simple solution to a complex problem. But I still think some
tinkering is needed in fighter and ship combat.

Lord Lancelot
>> Maybe a Limitation when fighter are docked to a ship they can not divided in more than the numbers of bay<<
Personally, I would not add any further restrictions, if you keep it
plain and simply there is less chance of introducing unnecessary bugs.

Sebastian
Sorry Sebastian, I don't truly understand what point you were trying
to get across there.

KlingonKommand
>> Something like a command code to make them stick closer to their fleet leader in battle <<
I would like this too, but this would fall under the Fighter combat
logic which still needs to be fixed. And using the Wing\Ship
"Escort" like [Lord Lancelot] suggested would work best, logically.

g....RemoveThis@gtoeroe.de
>>a sophisticated method would be to add fleet/group command abilities for wings<<
I would like to see this in place too. But the basic enhancement for
the Bxx command is to reduce micro-management, reduce resource point
usage for Swarm wings, and to enhance Wing tatics. A wing is a
collection of fighters and should be more adaptable. The game however,
"must" have a sophisticated method for fleet/group command
abilities for wings and ships added into the Client, even if the Bxx
code makes it into the game.