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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:41:06 GMT, riku <riku.RemoveThis@none.invalid.com> wrote:

>Also, if you have good sound hardware for DOS games (e.g. MT-32 and
>SCC-1), DOSBox doesn't cut it. It is possible to emulate Roland MT-32
>in DOSBox, but it is still quite far from the quality of the real
>thing.

If he has the real thing, he does not have to emulate it. I have a
real MT-32 and a SC-55 (the external version of a SCC-1) and they both
work fine in DosBox.

Dosbox is generally the best solution for running old dos games. I was
able to retire my DOS computer because of it.
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:37:41 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
<rpgsrockdvds.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>But I'm reluctant to hunt about for a legacy PC with ancient ISA sound
>hardware - I feel as if I ought to stick to just one machine. So I
>think I'll prolly go dual-boot 98/XP, and accept that things won't be
>entirely perfect.

Get the external versions of the internal ISA cards on Ebay. The
external version of the Roland LAPC-I is the MT-32. And the external
version of the SCC-1 is the SC-55 or SC-55mkII. You can connect these
devices with a midi + gameport cable or a midi + USB cable to any
computer with a gameport or USB connection. They should then work fine
in DosBox.
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:46:09 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
<rpgsrockdvds.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Drat. I'm not sure what to do now - I don't think I've thought this
>through carefully enough. Actually, do you happen to know if there
>are many Win98 games (and from that era) which fail on XP? If there
>are only a fraction say, then a really simple solution might be to
>just go with XP and DOSBox? (Incidentally, I tried a pile of old
>games on Vista recently, and ran in to no end of trouble with them.)
>
>Regards, Robert.

I've never run into a game that would work in 98 that did not work in
XP, but they do exist apparently.
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Mike S. wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:46:09 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
> <rpgsrockdvds.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Drat. I'm not sure what to do now - I don't think I've thought this
>> through carefully enough. Actually, do you happen to know if there
>> are many Win98 games (and from that era) which fail on XP? If there
>> are only a fraction say, then a really simple solution might be to
>> just go with XP and DOSBox? (Incidentally, I tried a pile of old
>> games on Vista recently, and ran in to no end of trouble with them.)
>>
>> Regards, Robert.
>
> I've never run into a game that would work in 98 that did not work in
> XP, but they do exist apparently.

Battlespire...
I posted a question about how to run that game in another thread earlier
today. Sux because I want to go back and play it but can't seem to get
it to run under any conditions.

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:58:11 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
<rpgsrockdvds.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Pardon my ignorance, but do I need both or would one suffice?

If you only want to spend the money on one, then I would get the
MT-32. It is cheaper and many older dos games do not support general
midi (which includes the SCC-1 and the SC-55) at all. It is also much
easier to find on Ebay.

>I had a look on ebay, and I think I found what you are referring to -
>they look a little bit like digital TV set-top boxes - am I right?

Here is a link to the MT-32 on Ebay. You should not pay more then $50
max US dollars for it before shipping as far as I am concerned. You
can pay considerably less then that if you can wait for the right
deal. -->

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260211185506&s...geName=

And here is a link for a SC-55 just to see what it looks like. I could
not currently find one on Ebay. As I said, the MT-32 is easier to
find. -->

http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/_inc/picview.cfm?synthid=92

If you have any questions about the MT-32, The SC-55 or Dosbox, just
ask here.

Alternatively, you can go to this link and ask your questions there.
It is the forum for Sierra games. The forum has a section for MT-32
questions and another for Sound Canvas (which includes the SCC-1 and
the SC-55) questions. Very helpful people there. You would have to
create an account first before you can post. -->

http://queststudios.com/smf/index.php#2
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:38:41 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
<rpgsrockdvds.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>At the end of that wikipedia article, it mentions a project called
>Munt, and also something from Roland themselves called D-50. Both
>appear to be MT-32 emulators of sorts - I haven't got the time right
>now to check 'em out, but I thought I'd post my observation and will
>look into this a bit later..

If Munt is the emulator I am thinking of, you need the ROMs from a
real MT-32 in order for it to work. The emulator does not provide them
as the copyright to them is held by Roland.

There is another MT-32 emulator for DosBox. I have no experience with
it though and I don't know if it includes ROM images or not. -->

http://www.artworxinn.com/alex/

Also, the D-50 isn't an emulator, it is simply one of the synthesizers
the Roland emulator emulates. I don't know anything about it though.
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On Feb 15, 5:08 am, riku <r... RemoveThis @none.invalid.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:41:39 GMT, Mike S. <m... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> >If he has the real thing, he does not have to emulate it. I have a
> >real MT-32 and a SC-55 (the external version of a SCC-1) and they both
> >work fine inDosBox.
>
> The problem is connecting my CM-32L, let alone my SCC-1 (ISA card) to
> my more modern PC. Apparently for CM-32L I would need to buy some PCI
> MPU-401 card or something...?
>
> >Dosboxis generally the best solution for running old dos games. I was
> >able to retire my DOS computer because of it.
>
> I think my PC was not fast enough for running e.g. Microprose's Subwar
> 2050 or Archimedean Dynasty throughDosBOX. For less taxing DOS games
> like Warcraft (1) etc. it is great.

Any processor equal to an Athlon XP 2800+ or above can play almost all
games in DosBox just fine.
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On 14 Feb, 16:41, Mike S. <m....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:37:41 -0800 (PST), rpgs rock dvds
>
> <rpgsrockd....TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >But I'm reluctant to hunt about for a legacy PC with ancient ISA sound
> >hardware - I feel as if I ought to stick to just one machine.  So I
> >think I'll prolly go dual-boot 98/XP, and accept that things won't be
> >entirely perfect.
>
> Get the external versions of the internal ISA cards on Ebay. The
> external version of the Roland LAPC-I is the MT-32. And the external
> version of the SCC-1 is the SC-55 or SC-55mkII. You can connect these
> devices with a midi + gameport cable or a midi + USB cable to any
> computer with a gameport or USB connection. They should then work fine
> in DosBox.

If cost was not an issue, would getting both the MT-32 and the SC-55
provide worthwhile benefits over getting just the MT-32? I would
definitely be prepared to go that extra mile for the sound in old
games if getting both boxes gave the ideal solution.

Thanks, regards, Robert.
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