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Stephenls <stephenls.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Hand-of-Omega wrote:

>> Was just watching Inuyasha last night, where he fought with his
>> Daiklave-like sword against a bandit leader with a similar one, which
>> apparently had the condition that it needed to slay 1,000 beings
>> (humans or demons) before transforming into a new, more powerful form.
>> I'd figure this for Artifact 3, at least, as well as Sesshomaru's
>> healing sword...

>Alternately, that could be representative of a sword bought at chargen
>with Artifact 2, that the player pumps XP into, buying it up to Artifact
>3 (new rating x 2, isn't it? That'd be 6 XP) and justifying it with a
>"What do you know. It had a hidden power, just waiting to be unleashed!"

I've actually been thinking that would be a good way to
handle it. It makes good world-sense to me, and it's also
cool in that it lets you get a better magic weapon without
having to go "Yeah, this daiklaive I've regained from
my past life, that I have fought a thousand battles with
through the ages- it is old and busted, and I will now
use this cool new thinger instead."

~P.
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Stephenls wrote:
> Hand-of-Omega wrote:
>
> > Yay, Dramatic Editing!!^_^
>
> It's not much like Dramatic Editing. It's more like in Mr. Tolkien's D&D
> campaign, when Strider's player spent a bunch of XP on Backgrounds
> mid-game and declared he was actually the rightful heir of Gondor. Then,
> of course, it took him the whole campaign to save up enough XP to
> actually buy the Backgrounds necessary to be the /king/ of Gondor, but
> clearly he didn't much mind.
>
^_^

> I hear Weapons of the Gods has a mechanic called "lore sheets" that make
> this a standard occurrence in that game. Spend XP on a lore sheet, get
> the background associated with it.

Is that even out, yet? My FLGS is persistent in their efforts to never
have even heard of it...

Dex
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Domon wrote:
> Il Sat, 15 Oct 2005 02:51:34 GMT, Richard Clayton
> <rZIGeclaZIGyton.DeleteThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>
>>Domon wrote:
>>
>>>Il 12 Oct 2005 08:29:19 -0700, "Hand-of-Omega"
>>><handofomega.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I forget, what's the difference between a Reaver, Reaper and regular
>>>>Daiklave?
>>>
>>>regular daiklave = big ass sword
>>>reaver daiklave = cloud's sword (big ass bastard sword)
>>>reaper daiklave = sephiroth's sword (big ass katana)
>>>
>>>mind that earlier description of reaper daiklave shows them as smaller
>>>daiklave, but power combat stat show us that the designer decided a
>>>reaper daiklave should bel longer then a regular daiklave (hence the
>>>"sephiroth's sword" bit)
>>
>> I beg your pardon, but you are mistaken. Reaper daiklaves are first
>>mentioned in /Exalted: The Outcaste,/ where they are explicitly
>>described as "great slashing swords" over four feet in length.
>
> yeah, i know.
> but since they aren't really impressive, and their speed was greater
> than a normal daiklave in power combat (and speed in PC is a function
> of lenght alone) i simply assume the authors re-visited their vision
> of the weapon to make it more cool...
> 4 feet is a normail daiklave lenght, and the same lenght of a katana.
> not quite a katanaklave, isn't it?

Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
rapiers and daiklave sabres too.
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Patrick Baldwin wrote:
> Stephenls <stephenls.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hand-of-Omega wrote:
>
>>>Was just watching Inuyasha last night, where he fought with his
>>>Daiklave-like sword against a bandit leader with a similar one, which
>>>apparently had the condition that it needed to slay 1,000 beings
>>>(humans or demons) before transforming into a new, more powerful form.
>>>I'd figure this for Artifact 3, at least, as well as Sesshomaru's
>>>healing sword...
>
>>Alternately, that could be representative of a sword bought at chargen
>>with Artifact 2, that the player pumps XP into, buying it up to Artifact
>>3 (new rating x 2, isn't it? That'd be 6 XP) and justifying it with a
>>"What do you know. It had a hidden power, just waiting to be unleashed!"
>
> I've actually been thinking that would be a good way to
> handle it. It makes good world-sense to me, and it's also
> cool in that it lets you get a better magic weapon without
> having to go "Yeah, this daiklaive I've regained from
> my past life, that I have fought a thousand battles with
> through the ages- it is old and busted, and I will now
> use this cool new thinger instead."

The "standard excuse" I suggest for two-dot orichalcum daiklaves in my
games is this: That plain-jane daiklave is from your past incarnation's
funeral trappings. Usurpation-era Sidereals and Terrestrials wouldn't
insult an Essence 10 Solar ghost by burying it without a daiklave, but
that doesn't mean you want to let it keep that Grand Daiklave of Conquest...
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Hand-of-Omega wrote:

> Is that even out, yet? My FLGS is persistent in their efforts to never
> have even heard of it...

No, it's not out yet.
--
Stephenls
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Il Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:46:33 GMT, Richard Clayton
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> Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
>rapiers and daiklave sabres too.

yeah, you're right. but even daiklave rapier and daiklave sabres are
cooler if 7 feet long
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Domon wrote:
> Il Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:46:33 GMT, Richard Clayton
> <rZIGeclaZIGyton DeleteThis @verizon.net> ha scritto:
>
>
>> Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
>>rapiers and daiklave sabres too.
>
> yeah, you're right. but even daiklave rapier and daiklave sabres are
> cooler if 7 feet long

Then they'd be grand daiklave katanas. (^_^) Even for the Exalted, I
imagine there is a limit to the strength and leverage you can exert on
your giant sword.
Actually, something I have always wanted to do as a white elephant for
one of my games is drop in a HUGE (even by artifact weapon standards)
daiklave once wielded by an Essence 9-10 elder Solar. He swung it
one-handed, but PC-level characters need both hands, and the base
requirement is Strength 6 just to do THAT...
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Il Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:16:46 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton.DeleteThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:

>Domon wrote:
>> Il Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:46:33 GMT, Richard Clayton
>> <rZIGeclaZIGyton.DeleteThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>> Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
>>>rapiers and daiklave sabres too.
>>
>> yeah, you're right. but even daiklave rapier and daiklave sabres are
>> cooler if 7 feet long
>
> Then they'd be grand daiklave katanas. (^_^)

maybe, but the fact rests the they are speed +9, right? and we don't
have a clear "sephiroth's sword" equivalent, while the reaper daiklave
is obviously "cloud's sword"

> Even for the Exalted, I
>imagine there is a limit to the strength and leverage you can exert on
>your giant sword.

yep, but the reaper daiklave design is quite light...

> Actually, something I have always wanted to do as a white elephant for
>one of my games is drop in a HUGE (even by artifact weapon standards)
>daiklave once wielded by an Essence 9-10 elder Solar. He swung it
>one-handed, but PC-level characters need both hands, and the base
>requirement is Strength 6 just to do THAT...

in a shogunate-harrypotter-dragonblooded chronicle i played our city
was situated on a hing and big plateau, connected to another plateau
by means of a single, huge bridge. only the other plateau had an
access to the surrounding lands, and the esplanation was that an
anathema cutted the plateau in 2 about 600 hundred years ago...
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D come Dateme artro tempo
O come Orribilmente geek
M come Magno 'na cifra
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Domon wrote:
> Il Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:16:46 GMT, Richard Clayton
> <rZIGeclaZIGyton.RemoveThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>
>>Domon wrote:
>>
>>>Il Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:46:33 GMT, Richard Clayton
>>><rZIGeclaZIGyton.RemoveThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
>>>>rapiers and daiklave sabres too.
>>>
>>>yeah, you're right. but even daiklave rapier and daiklave sabres are
>>>cooler if 7 feet long
>>
>> Then they'd be grand daiklave katanas. (^_^)
>
> maybe, but the fact rests the they are speed +9, right? and we don't
> have a clear "sephiroth's sword" equivalent, while the reaper daiklave
> is obviously "cloud's sword"

Size-wise, both Cloud and Sephiroth carry grand daiklaves.

>>Even for the Exalted, I
>>imagine there is a limit to the strength and leverage you can exert on
>>your giant sword.
>
> yep, but the reaper daiklave design is quite light...

Comparatively speaking. It's still far too large and heavy for a mortal
to use.

>> Actually, something I have always wanted to do as a white elephant for
>>one of my games is drop in a HUGE (even by artifact weapon standards)
>>daiklave once wielded by an Essence 9-10 elder Solar. He swung it
>>one-handed, but PC-level characters need both hands, and the base
>>requirement is Strength 6 just to do THAT...
>
> in a shogunate-harrypotter-dragonblooded chronicle i played our city
> was situated on a hing and big plateau, connected to another plateau
> by means of a single, huge bridge. only the other plateau had an
> access to the surrounding lands, and the esplanation was that an
> anathema cutted the plateau in 2 about 600 hundred years ago...
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Il Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:35:01 GMT, Richard Clayton
<rZIGeclaZIGyton.RemoveThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:

>Domon wrote:
>> Il Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:16:46 GMT, Richard Clayton
>> <rZIGeclaZIGyton.RemoveThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>>
>>>Domon wrote:
>>>
>>>>Il Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:46:33 GMT, Richard Clayton
>>>><rZIGeclaZIGyton.RemoveThis@verizon.net> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Reaper daiklaves aren't just daiklave katanas, they are daiklave
>>>>>rapiers and daiklave sabres too.
>>>>
>>>>yeah, you're right. but even daiklave rapier and daiklave sabres are
>>>>cooler if 7 feet long
>>>
>>> Then they'd be grand daiklave katanas. (^_^)
>>
>> maybe, but the fact rests the they are speed +9, right? and we don't
>> have a clear "sephiroth's sword" equivalent, while the reaper daiklave
>> is obviously "cloud's sword"
>
> Size-wise, both Cloud and Sephiroth carry grand daiklaves.

but they use it 1 handed. besides, cloid swords look the siaze of a
reaver daiklave to me

> Comparatively speaking. It's still far too large and heavy for a mortal
>to use.

hell, yeah! but these are klaves, and essence make them lighter and
more balanced. these are not for mortal use...
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D come Dateme artro tempo
O come Orribilmente geek
M come Magno 'na cifra
O come Ora te stronco l'anema se nun me caghi e
N come Nun parletemi male d'Exalted!!!

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