Waste to Enrgy

kuyper.TakeThisOut@wizard.net schrieb:
> Mario Ospelt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone tell me why the maximum capacity of a Waste to Enrgy Plant
>> ist variable? And on what it depends? Actually it should be 5000 kWh,
>> but it fall on about 4000 kWh. That doesn't make sense to me.
>
> Many buildings, including all power plants, become less efficient as
> they grow older; that's possibly what you're seeing. Also, keep in mind
> that it produces electricity by burning trash; maybe there's not enough
> trash to keep it operating at full capacity?
>

I just built a new plant and its condition ist 99%. This cannot be the
reason then. I have some landfills where the thrash is deposed. And
these are still completely filled. So there should be enough trash. What
do you think?
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Mario Ospelt wrote:
> kuyper.DeleteThis@wizard.net schrieb:
....
> > Many buildings, including all power plants, become less efficient as
> > they grow older; that's possibly what you're seeing. Also, keep in mind
> > that it produces electricity by burning trash; maybe there's not enough
> > trash to keep it operating at full capacity?
> >
>
> I just built a new plant and its condition ist 99%. This cannot be the
> reason then. I have some landfills where the thrash is deposed. And
> these are still completely filled. So there should be enough trash. What
> do you think?

It's hard to be sure from the documentation, but my understanding is
that Waste-to-Energy plants don't burn garbage that is already in a
landfill, instead, they intercept a portion of the trash that is
heading to the landfills. According to the Prima strategy guide, each
plant can process 5250 tons of garbage per month, but I've found from
my own testing that the total over all of your Waste-to-Energy plants
can't exceed a fixed percentage of the trash that your city produces or
(through a garbage deal) imports, I think it is 40%. If the plants
you've built have a combined waste-burning capacity that is greater
than 40% of your city's trash production, they will produce
proportionately less than their maximum capacity of 70 MWh of power.
The flip side, of course, is that they will also produce
proportionately less air pollution.
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WHAT
In my largest city, when i can spare the expense, i usually buy a
Waste-to-Energy plant, and it actually makes the garbage level go down. For
some odd reason i cant delete the now available [empty] zoned landfill - it
is colourd a light blue colour, odd. You may be right however, if after some
time the garbage level decreases on its own. My waste to energy plants were
always at 100% - perhaps thats what made the garbage level go down? Then
after a while the plant efficiency devreased as expected.

Trinity

> It's hard to be sure from the documentation, but my understanding is
> that Waste-to-Energy plants don't burn garbage that is already in a
> landfill, instead, they intercept a portion of the trash that is
> heading to the landfills. According to the Prima strategy guide, each
> plant can process 5250 tons of garbage per month, but I've found from
> my own testing that the total over all of your Waste-to-Energy plants
> can't exceed a fixed percentage of the trash that your city produces or
> (through a garbage deal) imports, I think it is 40%. If the plants
> you've built have a combined waste-burning capacity that is greater
> than 40% of your city's trash production, they will produce
> proportionately less than their maximum capacity of 70 MWh of power.
> The flip side, of course, is that they will also produce
> proportionately less air pollution.
>
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"Mario Ospelt" <mario DeleteThis @student.ethz.ch> wrote in message
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> kuyper DeleteThis @wizard.net schrieb:
>> Mario Ospelt wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me why the maximum capacity of a Waste to Enrgy Plant
>>> ist variable? And on what it depends? Actually it should be 5000 kWh,
>>> but it fall on about 4000 kWh. That doesn't make sense to me.
>>
>> Many buildings, including all power plants, become less efficient as
>> they grow older; that's possibly what you're seeing. Also, keep in mind
>> that it produces electricity by burning trash; maybe there's not enough
>> trash to keep it operating at full capacity?
>>
>
> I just built a new plant and its condition ist 99%. This cannot be the
> reason then. I have some landfills where the thrash is deposed. And these
> are still completely filled. So there should be enough trash. What do you
> think?

Are you getting all the power you need? Can the fuel get to the plant?
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<kuyper.DeleteThis@wizard.net> wrote in message
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> Mario Ospelt wrote:
>> kuyper.DeleteThis@wizard.net schrieb:
> ...
>> > Many buildings, including all power plants, become less efficient as
>> > they grow older; that's possibly what you're seeing. Also, keep in mind
>> > that it produces electricity by burning trash; maybe there's not enough
>> > trash to keep it operating at full capacity?
>> >
>>
>> I just built a new plant and its condition ist 99%. This cannot be the
>> reason then. I have some landfills where the thrash is deposed. And
>> these are still completely filled. So there should be enough trash. What
>> do you think?
>
> It's hard to be sure from the documentation, but my understanding is
> that Waste-to-Energy plants don't burn garbage that is already in a
> landfill, instead, they intercept a portion of the trash that is
> heading to the landfills. According to the Prima strategy guide, each
> plant can process 5250 tons of garbage per month, but I've found from
> my own testing that the total over all of your Waste-to-Energy plants
> can't exceed a fixed percentage of the trash that your city produces or
> (through a garbage deal) imports, I think it is 40%. If the plants
> you've built have a combined waste-burning capacity that is greater
> than 40% of your city's trash production, they will produce
> proportionately less than their maximum capacity of 70 MWh of power.
> The flip side, of course, is that they will also produce
> proportionately less air pollution.
>

Odd. I've had landfills vanish when I wasn't exporting trash. Of course I
also had recyling centers etc.
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"Trinity" <TArana RemoveThis @htomail.com> wrote in message
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> WHAT
> In my largest city, when i can spare the expense, i usually buy a
> Waste-to-Energy plant, and it actually makes the garbage level go down.
> For some odd reason i cant delete the now available [empty] zoned
> landfill - it is colourd a light blue colour, odd. You may be right
> however, if after some time the garbage level decreases on its own. My
> waste to energy plants were always at 100% - perhaps thats what made the
> garbage level go down? Then after a while the plant efficiency devreased
> as expected.
>
> Trinity

Right or wrong it is my perception that it pays to have enough reserve
capacity they don't go to 100%.

>
>> It's hard to be sure from the documentation, but my understanding is
>> that Waste-to-Energy plants don't burn garbage that is already in a
>> landfill, instead, they intercept a portion of the trash that is
>> heading to the landfills. According to the Prima strategy guide, each
>> plant can process 5250 tons of garbage per month, but I've found from
>> my own testing that the total over all of your Waste-to-Energy plants
>> can't exceed a fixed percentage of the trash that your city produces or
>> (through a garbage deal) imports, I think it is 40%. If the plants
>> you've built have a combined waste-burning capacity that is greater
>> than 40% of your city's trash production, they will produce
>> proportionately less than their maximum capacity of 70 MWh of power.
>> The flip side, of course, is that they will also produce
>> proportionately less air pollution.
>>
>
>
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> > > Many buildings, including all power plants, become less efficient as
> > > they grow older; that's possibly what you're seeing. Also, keep in mind
> > > that it produces electricity by burning trash; maybe there's not enough
> > > trash to keep it operating at full capacity?
> > >
> >
> > I just built a new plant and its condition ist 99%. This cannot be the
> > reason then. I have some landfills where the thrash is deposed. And
> > these are still completely filled. So there should be enough trash. What
> > do you think?
>
> It's hard to be sure from the documentation, but my understanding is
> that Waste-to-Energy plants don't burn garbage that is already in a
> landfill, instead, they intercept a portion of the trash that is
> heading to the landfills.

What you do is make the plant and set the sanitation budget to zero,
run the game and the landfills will slowly empty. Your city will fill
up with trash but once the landfill empty increase the sanitation
budget again. Note, you only need the sanitation budget at half the
possible total, saves loads of money and still keeps the city clean.

To dezone you need to use the dezome landfill tool and only when it's
complete empty. I often end up with one or two squares of rubbish that
won't go do matter I do.
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