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terrabyte

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 am
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Is anyone out there keeping track of variant artwork for each card
(for each expansion) ?

I'm way behind keeping track of these - I'm only accurate up to KWM,
and certainly wouldn't mind double checking my work anyway.

I've thought about using the card list at white-wolf. I could narrow
down the list of cards that have more than 1 artist, since I believe
that would represent all the re-worked cards. However, it doesn't say
which version they worked on. There are even some cards where the 2nd
artwork didn't 'stick', and they reverted back to the original
artwork:

Thaumaturgy, for example, got new artwork during the Sabbat set, but
reverted back to the original artwork for the Camarilla and 3rd
edition versions.

The reason I'm asking is because my spreadsheet keeps track of all my
card quantities by expansion (useful for trading) and the quantity
number is black if it's the original artwork. It's red if it's the
'new' artwork. I do this because in my display binders where I would
normally have a copy of each card, I like to put in a copy of the
variant artwork next to it. And to top it off, I always replace the
cards in the binder with the latest and greatest versions when they
come out (for errata purposes).

1) Has an artist ever redone his own original card, or has it always
been a new artist?
2) How many cards like Thaumaturgy are there?
3) Has any card ever had 3 different artworks yet, or is the max 2?
4) Has someone already done this?

Thanks,
-Terry

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lonkka

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:59 am
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Haven't kept tabs on the number of such cards but I have set aside one
copy of each different card from each set, also including each reprint
from precons and such.

Back in the day when Orava used to compile lists from the net (when
internet accesses weren'rt as commonplace as nowadays) his lists also
included misprinted cards (RenagAde Garou and the like) whih i also
managed to collect. Unfortunately I think I haven't seen such lists
anywhere since V:TES came out so I might be missing some...

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XZealot

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:48 am
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On Jan 12, 9:59 am, Peter D Bakija <p....RemoveThis@lightlink.com> wrote:
> In article
> <49be6a1d-7646-474d-8036-572cbdc2d....RemoveThis@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Malone <kffos....RemoveThis@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > I believe it has always been a new artist.
>
> There are a few new illustrations by the same artist--Camille Deveraux
> and Raven (and Camille Deveraux, The Raven) are both L.A. Williams
> (although arguably, they are different cards). I think there are a few
> other cards like this, but I might be on crack.
>
> > Immortal Grapple is on its 3rd picture, for one.
>
> I can't think of anything else with 3 pictures. Anyone?

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Peter D Bakija

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:59 am
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In article
<49be6a1d-7646-474d-8036-572cbdc2dcc0.DeleteThis@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Malone <kffoster.DeleteThis@indiana.edu> wrote:

> I believe it has always been a new artist.

There are a few new illustrations by the same artist--Camille Deveraux
and Raven (and Camille Deveraux, The Raven) are both L.A. Williams
(although arguably, they are different cards). I think there are a few
other cards like this, but I might be on crack.

> Immortal Grapple is on its 3rd picture, for one.

I can't think of anything else with 3 pictures. Anyone?

Peter D Bakija
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:44 pm
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Peter D Bakija wrote:
> In article
> <49be6a1d-7646-474d-8036-572cbdc2dcc0.DeleteThis@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
> Malone <kffoster.DeleteThis@indiana.edu> wrote:
>
>> I believe it has always been a new artist.
>
> There are a few new illustrations by the same artist--Camille Deveraux
> and Raven (and Camille Deveraux, The Raven) are both L.A. Williams
> (although arguably, they are different cards). I think there are a few
> other cards like this, but I might be on crack.
>
>> Immortal Grapple is on its 3rd picture, for one.
>
> I can't think of anything else with 3 pictures. Anyone?

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Kevin M.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:17 pm
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terrabyte <spam01.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:
> Is anyone out there keeping track of variant artwork
> for each card (for each expansion) ?

A good person to ask about this might be Aaron Steele; IIRC he was keeping
track of these things for his own personal collection. I believe he is in
the Atlanta playgroup now, perhaps Lasombra or Robyn might help (or tell
me I'm wrong)?


Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
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The Lasombra

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:05 am
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:17:12 -0800, "Kevin M." wrote:

>terrabyte wrote:
>> Is anyone out there keeping track of variant artwork
>> for each card (for each expansion) ?

>A good person to ask about this might be Aaron Steele; IIRC he was keeping
>track of these things for his own personal collection. I believe he is in
>the Atlanta playgroup now, perhaps Lasombra or Robyn might help (or tell
>me I'm wrong)?

He may have been keeping track of that at one time.

Aaron may have played 5-6 times in the year and a half since he moved
here. He hadn't purchased any cards since Camarilla Edition was
introduced, as the layout change offended him.
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