VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ...

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> I've just managed to get a copy of this game and started playing it as
> a Gangrel. I've taken the second level in Protean which should give me
> claws. The instructions in the tutorial say to spin the mouse wheel
> until I get "Feral Claws" to activate them, but I don't see any sort of
> Discipline by that name in that window, just "Protean". When I
> activate it, the screen goes completely black and it says that my Wits
> have increased by +1. The same thing seems to occur for Fortitude,
> which I have a bonus feat to because of the history I've chosen. I
> don't have enough points to level anything else up to see if it makes a
> difference. I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and
> nothing else.
>
> Is this a known problem? Is it fixed by some sort of patch that I'm
> missing? Or am I just doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks.

There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
at all yet?
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Werner Spahl wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, arccos wrote:
>
> > Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> >> I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and nothing else.
> > [snip]
> > There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
> > unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
> > question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
> > at all yet?
>
> He stated that he used my last unofficial patch, but did he install the
> offical 1.2 patch first? If not I would recommend this as I never heard of
> that bug before. Sounds a little bit as if Auspex is triggered instead of
> Protean. Also is anything else bound to the mouse wheel in the config?

I didn't put the official patch on (wasn't even sure it existed or
WHERE it existed).

I guess the main question is if I'm even doing anything right. Can you
get to the level 2 spells of a Discipline without casting the first
level as well (or both)? SHOULD I be seeing "Feral Claws" somewhere on
my Discipline config (I tried the keyboard cycling through powers and
it didn't help either)? I DO see a name for the "Animalism" power, but
not for any of the Fortitude or Protean powers.

I will try putting the official patch on and repatching the user patch
to see what happens.
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Werner Spahl wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, arccos wrote:
>
> > Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> >> I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and nothing else.
> > [snip]
> > There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
> > unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
> > question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
> > at all yet?
>
> He stated that he used my last unofficial patch, but did he install the
> offical 1.2 patch first? If not I would recommend this as I never heard of
> that bug before. Sounds a little bit as if Auspex is triggered instead of
> Protean. Also is anything else bound to the mouse wheel in the config?

I didn't put the official patch on (wasn't even sure it existed or
WHERE it existed).

I guess the main question is if I'm even doing anything right. Can you
get to the level 2 spells of a Discipline without casting the first
level as well (or both)? SHOULD I be seeing "Feral Claws" somewhere on
my Discipline config (I tried the keyboard cycling through powers and
it didn't help either)? I DO see a name for the "Animalism" power, but
not for any of the Fortitude or Protean powers.

I will try putting the official patch on and repatching the user patch
to see what happens.
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Werner Spahl wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, arccos wrote:
>
> > Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> >> I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and nothing else.
> > [snip]
> > There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
> > unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
> > question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
> > at all yet?
>
> He stated that he used my last unofficial patch, but did he install the
> offical 1.2 patch first? If not I would recommend this as I never heard of
> that bug before. Sounds a little bit as if Auspex is triggered instead of
> Protean. Also is anything else bound to the mouse wheel in the config?

I didn't put the official patch on (wasn't even sure it existed or
WHERE it existed).

I guess the main question is if I'm even doing anything right. Can you
get to the level 2 spells of a Discipline without casting the first
level as well (or both)? SHOULD I be seeing "Feral Claws" somewhere on
my Discipline config (I tried the keyboard cycling through powers and
it didn't help either)? I DO see a name for the "Animalism" power, but
not for any of the Fortitude or Protean powers.

I will try putting the official patch on and repatching the user patch
to see what happens.
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ... 

Werner Spahl wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, arccos wrote:
>
> > Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> >> I have the basic game and Werner's v3.1 user patch, and nothing else.
> > [snip]
> > There are official patches that fix a few things, and there are
> > unofficial patches that fix a larger number of issues. The first
> > question is: What version number are you playing? Have you patched it
> > at all yet?
>
> He stated that he used my last unofficial patch, but did he install the
> offical 1.2 patch first? If not I would recommend this as I never heard of
> that bug before. Sounds a little bit as if Auspex is triggered instead of
> Protean. Also is anything else bound to the mouse wheel in the config?

I didn't put the official patch on (wasn't even sure it existed or
WHERE it existed).

I guess the main question is if I'm even doing anything right. Can you
get to the level 2 spells of a Discipline without casting the first
level as well (or both)? SHOULD I be seeing "Feral Claws" somewhere on
my Discipline config (I tried the keyboard cycling through powers and
it didn't help either)? I DO see a name for the "Animalism" power, but
not for any of the Fortitude or Protean powers.

I will try putting the official patch on and repatching the user patch
to see what happens.
 >> Stay informed about: VTM:Bloodlines: Problem with Disciplines ...