Ultima VII - you can't sell stuff?

DalTXColtsFan wrote:
> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> Ultima VII.
>
> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>

If money is your need, join the Fellowship and look to the casinos at
Buckaneer's Den >

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On May 1, 12:12 pm, JP Morris <j....DeleteThis@it-he.org> wrote:
> DalTXColtsFan wrote:
> > In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> > whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> > way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> > Ultima VII.
>
> > Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
> If money is your need, join the Fellowship and look to the casinos at
> Buckaneer's Den >
>
> --
> JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=- j....DeleteThis@it-he.org
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Thanks Paulon and JP for the replies.

JP I went to Buccaneer's den but I'm not a fellowship member yet -
however I did amass a small fortune by cheating - saving the game
before playing and re-loading if I lose . Is there a surprise
waiting for me if I go back after becoming a Fellowship member? Don't
spoil too much for me, this is my first time playing it - just a yes
or no please .


It also seems, again unless I'm missing something, that the Avatar is
the only one who can cast spells! I know Jaana will cast heal, cure
or ressurect for you, but is the Avatar the only one who can cast
spells, for example, in combat? If so, another big bummer! The
Avatar has a spell book but I didn't find anyone else who sells
spellbooks or anywhere else to find them. Again, I'm not very far
along in the game - I've been to Trinsic, Britain, Cove and Minoc. I
haven't gone to Destard to try to sneak by the dragons and get the
chest yet.
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In article <1178122692.069325.318640 RemoveThis @c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
joe2002 RemoveThis @swbell.net says...
>
>On May 1, 12:12 pm, JP Morris <j... RemoveThis @it-he.org> wrote:
>> DalTXColtsFan wrote:
>> > In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
>> > whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
>> > way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
>> > Ultima VII.
>>
>> > Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>>
>> If money is your need, join the Fellowship and look to the casinos at
>> Buckaneer's Den >
>>
>> --
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>> Fun things to do with the Ultima games http://www.it-he.org
>> Developing a U6/U7 clone http://ire.it-he.org
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>> uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976)
>
>Thanks Paulon and JP for the replies.
>
>JP I went to Buccaneer's den but I'm not a fellowship member yet -
>however I did amass a small fortune by cheating - saving the game
>before playing and re-loading if I lose . Is there a surprise
>waiting for me if I go back after becoming a Fellowship member? Don't
>spoil too much for me, this is my first time playing it - just a yes
>or no please .
>
>clip

Yes, there is small advantage at the casino if you become a Fellowship member.
It is revealed below by ROT13.

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aba-zrzoref, rabhtu fb lbh pna nyjnlf jva zber guna lbh org. Sbe rknzcyr, vs n
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yrff guna gur ahzore bs engf. Ohg vs n zrzore qbrf gur fnzr, gur jvaare cnlf
zber guna gur ahzore bs engf, fb lbh nyjnlf pbzr bhg nurnq.

A real quick way to win at Buccaneer's Den is to play the Rat Race. If your rat
isn't going to win, click the start line to restart the race. Keep doing that
until he wins. You can amass a fortune in a short time. I had the grass outside
the casino covered with piles of gold coins, although that did cause some
problems with the graphics display. <G>

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> before playing and re-loading if I lose . Is there a surprise
> waiting for me if I go back after becoming a Fellowship member? Don't
> spoil too much for me, this is my first time playing it - just a yes
> or no please .

It affects how some people will consider you. Some will just refuse to talk,
and run away from a "dirty Fellowshipper".

It is not a membership, but a _medallion wearing_ which affects the people.
A good idea is to wear the medallion when you talk to Fellowship people, and
do not wear it when you talk to any other people.

> It also seems, again unless I'm missing something, that the Avatar is
> the only one who can cast spells! I know Jaana will cast heal, cure
> or ressurect for you, but is the Avatar the only one who can cast
> spells, for example, in combat?

Yes.

> Avatar has a spell book but I didn't find anyone else who sells
> spellbooks or anywhere else to find them.

You can only fill the spell slots in the spellbook by buying them from the
mage.

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Moscow Dragon wrote:
> It is not a membership, but a _medallion wearing_ which affects the people.
> A good idea is to wear the medallion when you talk to Fellowship people, and
> do not wear it when you talk to any other people.

I can't remember now and I'm not in a position to try it, but does stealing
someone else's medallion work for the casino? I know that certain higher-up
members of the Fellowship see through it (Batlin for instance), but I can't
remember if it works for the Den or not.


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On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2... DeleteThis @swbell.net> wrote:
> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> Ultima VII.
>
> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!

Thanks again for the replies everyone.

I'm getting into the game but I'm concerned about one thing - I seem
to have "lost" Elizabeth and Abraham. I think their trail is Trinsic,
Britain, Minoc, Paws, Jhelom, Moonglow, Terfin, and then either
Serpent's Hold or Buccaneer's Den (Vesper was in there somewhere I
think). My concern is that nobody is telling me where they went next,
and they're not even appearing as an option when conversing with
Rankin in Moonglow or Quan in Terfin or Austin in Vesper. They are a
conversation option with Feridwyn in Yew but he just says he hasn't
seen them in days, same with Elynor in Minoc.

I just finished exploring Terfin - I haven't been to Serpent's Hold or
Buccaneer's Den yet.

Please try to avoid spoiling too much for me, I'm just worried that
I'm going to get too far and then have to start over .

Thanks
Joe

I haven't screwed anything up irreparably, have I?
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In article <1178542918.932510.88830.RemoveThis@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
joe2002.RemoveThis@swbell.net says...
>
>On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2....RemoveThis@swbell.net> wrote:
>> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
>> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
>> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
>> Ultima VII.
>>
>> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
>Thanks again for the replies everyone.
>
>I'm getting into the game but I'm concerned about one thing - I seem
>to have "lost" Elizabeth and Abraham. I think their trail is Trinsic,
>Britain, Minoc, Paws, Jhelom, Moonglow, Terfin, and then either
>Serpent's Hold or Buccaneer's Den (Vesper was in there somewhere I
>think). My concern is that nobody is telling me where they went next,
>and they're not even appearing as an option when conversing with
>Rankin in Moonglow or Quan in Terfin or Austin in Vesper. They are a
>conversation option with Feridwyn in Yew but he just says he hasn't
>seen them in days, same with Elynor in Minoc.
>
>I just finished exploring Terfin - I haven't been to Serpent's Hold or
>Buccaneer's Den yet.
>
>Please try to avoid spoiling too much for me, I'm just worried that
>I'm going to get too far and then have to start over .
>
>Thanks
>Joe
>
>I haven't screwed anything up irreparably, have I?

You're doing fine. Following Abraham and Elizabeth is optional, although it
provides a safe way to tour Britain while building up your characters.

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You will meet them in the final scene of the game only. Chasing them is
useless. Just do the plot.

"DalTXColtsFan" <joe2002.TakeThisOut@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:1178542918.932510.88830@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2....TakeThisOut@swbell.net> wrote:
> > In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> > whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> > way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> > Ultima VII.
> >
> > Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
> Thanks again for the replies everyone.
>
> I'm getting into the game but I'm concerned about one thing - I seem
> to have "lost" Elizabeth and Abraham. I think their trail is Trinsic,
> Britain, Minoc, Paws, Jhelom, Moonglow, Terfin, and then either
> Serpent's Hold or Buccaneer's Den (Vesper was in there somewhere I
> think). My concern is that nobody is telling me where they went next,
> and they're not even appearing as an option when conversing with
> Rankin in Moonglow or Quan in Terfin or Austin in Vesper. They are a
> conversation option with Feridwyn in Yew but he just says he hasn't
> seen them in days, same with Elynor in Minoc.
>
> I just finished exploring Terfin - I haven't been to Serpent's Hold or
> Buccaneer's Den yet.
>
> Please try to avoid spoiling too much for me, I'm just worried that
> I'm going to get too far and then have to start over .
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> I haven't screwed anything up irreparably, have I?
>
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On May 8, 2:09 pm, "Moscow Dragon" <maxim... RemoveThis @mtu-net.ru> wrote:
> You will meet them in the final scene of the game only. Chasing them is
> useless. Just do the plot.
>
> "DalTXColtsFan" <joe2... RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1178542918.932510.88830@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2... RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote:
> > > In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> > > whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> > > way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> > > Ultima VII.
>
> > > Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
> > Thanks again for the replies everyone.
>
> > I'm getting into the game but I'm concerned about one thing - I seem
> > to have "lost" Elizabeth and Abraham. I think their trail is Trinsic,
> > Britain, Minoc, Paws, Jhelom, Moonglow, Terfin, and then either
> > Serpent's Hold or Buccaneer's Den (Vesper was in there somewhere I
> > think). My concern is that nobody is telling me where they went next,
> > and they're not even appearing as an option when conversing with
> > Rankin in Moonglow or Quan in Terfin or Austin in Vesper. They are a
> > conversation option with Feridwyn in Yew but he just says he hasn't
> > seen them in days, same with Elynor in Minoc.
>
> > I just finished exploring Terfin - I haven't been to Serpent's Hold or
> > Buccaneer's Den yet.
>
> > Please try to avoid spoiling too much for me, I'm just worried that
> > I'm going to get too far and then have to start over .
>
> > Thanks
> > Joe
>
> > I haven't screwed anything up irreparably, have I?



And if you're stuck with no clue about where to go next, asking about
them can sometimes point you in the right direction. Although when
they're in Buccaneer's Den, and you don't have a ship, it can be
confusing. Pick up another plot line and follow it for a while, or
track down a dungeon. Did you find the magic chest south of Trinsic?
Even though you can't sell much except gold, jewels, and serpent
venom, I was literally *dumping* piles of stuff everywhere before I
was done. Oh, wait. I might also have been using the "create food"
cheat.
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> And if you're stuck with no clue about where to go next

....go to gypsies for them to predict your fate.

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On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2....RemoveThis@swbell.net> wrote:
> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> Ultima VII.
>
> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!

Thanks again for all the replies everyone - as another poster said,
it's good that there are still forums like these that are alive and
kicking! Long live Ultima!

I've gotten the Emps to give me the whistle and have spoken with the
Wisp. I'm in Skara Brae right now trying to figure out how to get rid
of the liche.

Fun game!

DTXCF
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On May 11, 2:44 pm, n....DeleteThis@email.ads (Ken Rice) wrote:
> In article <1178890641.206269.122....DeleteThis@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> joe2....DeleteThis@swbell.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2....DeleteThis@swbell.net> wrote:
> >> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
> >> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
> >> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
> >> Ultima VII.
>
> >> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
> >Thanks again for all the replies everyone - as another poster said,
> >it's good that there are still forums like these that are alive and
> >kicking! Long live Ultima!
>
> >I've gotten the Emps to give me the whistle and have spoken with the
> >Wisp. I'm in Skara Brae right now trying to figure out how to get rid
> >of the liche.
>
> >Fun game!
>
> >DTXCF
>
> Post back here after you solve the Skara Brae lich problem. There is a special
> area that is interesting, and is also a spoiler for the Skara Brae lich
> problem.
>
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> - Show quoted text -

Grrrrrr

I picked up 3 potions in Mordra's house and an empty flask on the
table next to the alchemy equipment.

Now how do I get the potions "in" the equipment, how do I get the
empty flask off to the side, and how I do I light the fire????

I've tried just dragging them on there but then the 3 flasks just kind
of "sit there". I tried double-clicking the potion and then the
equipment and my NPCs say "Don't waste those - they're expensive!!!"

I hate these pixelhunt clicking puzzles - what the bleep do I do
here????

Many thanks
DTXCF
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In article <1178890641.206269.122940.TakeThisOut@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
joe2002.TakeThisOut@swbell.net says...
>
>On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, DalTXColtsFan <joe2....TakeThisOut@swbell.net> wrote:
>> In all of the previous Ultimas you could collect armor and weapons and
>> whatnot off people and creatures defeated in combat and it was a great
>> way to accumulate money. You don't seem to be able to do that in
>> Ultima VII.
>>
>> Am I missing a way to sell stuff? If not, that's a bummer!
>
>Thanks again for all the replies everyone - as another poster said,
>it's good that there are still forums like these that are alive and
>kicking! Long live Ultima!
>
>I've gotten the Emps to give me the whistle and have spoken with the
>Wisp. I'm in Skara Brae right now trying to figure out how to get rid
>of the liche.
>
>Fun game!
>
>DTXCF
>

Post back here after you solve the Skara Brae lich problem. There is a special
area that is interesting, and is also a spoiler for the Skara Brae lich
problem.

--
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http://users.erols.com/kennrice - Lego Compatible Flex Track,
Civil War Round Table of DC & Concentration Camp made of Lego bricks
http://members.tripod.com/~kennrice
Maps of Ultima 7 Parts 1 & 2, Prophecy of the Shadow, Savage Empire,
Crusaders of Dark Savant & Others.
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