Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> Rip Rock wrote:
> >
> > I think Kuei-Jin don't need their own minigame. OWoD Kuei-Jin were
> > really quite different than Western vampires. Now with the NWoD,
> > Western vamps have a lot of the features of Kuei-Jin, so there's no
> > need for a separate system.
>
> Well, sure, if you just want them to be Asian Kindred. But remember,
> the Kuei-Jin started out the same way, till they were retconned into
> something different.
I didn't know that before.
>I doubt a NWoD version of the Cathayans would have
> the same origin as the originals did, but I'd like it and their nature
> to be something notably different from the Kindred...
> >
> > Hunters, Wraiths, etc. can probably be done without their own minigame.
> >
> > Demons always struck me as a very, very lame attempt to stretch the
> > cult rules given for Spectres in Wraith. White Wolf always recycles
> > ideas, but Demons were just ridiculous. They don't need their own
> > minigame.
> >
> What similarities do Demons and Spectres have? If anything, I thought
> DtF was borrowing from Changeling and Mummy...
>
> Dex
Spectres (Dark Reflections, WW6902) p.66 has a "Demonic Nephwrack"
sample NPC, but that's actually not the best place to look. WW6102
(Mediums, Speakers with the Dead) has a bunch of stuff on devil cults.
Pages 90-95 of Mediums give you the essential rules for running Demon.
It doesn't have Spectres as fallen angels, but it has all you need to
have a big bad Umbrood messing with mortals and giving them Satanic
powers that lead to their own destruction. (This may be the Angst
stuff that one of the previous posters on this board meant when he said
Mediums showed why my Passion Hacking idea wouldn't work.)
Example: Fires of Hell is a power on p.94. "For every success on a
Willpower roll (difficulty 9), the mortal can create one cubic foot of
fire. ... A mortal invested with this power must roll Willpower
(difficulty
or lose a permanent Willpower point every time he uses
this ability. After three or four uses the slave is completely insane,
and she is consumed by her own fire if her permanent Willpower ever
reaches zero."
It's nasty stuff. However it's so self-destructive you can only use
it for weak bad guys who provide a little color to the adventure before
they die horribly.
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