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The Stare

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:51 pm
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I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many years
ago and found laying around.

http://watorrey.net/ultima/u7bgfov/trainers.html

Comments/suggestions/information?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:03 am
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Words to the wise, "The Stare" <wat1.TakeThisOut@not.likely.frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many years
>ago and found laying around.
>
>http://watorrey.net/ultima/u7bgfov/trainers.html
>
>Comments/suggestions/information?

Add pictures of each Trainer, both figural and portrait? :>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:48 am
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"Claus Dragon" <claus.DeleteThis@ultima-dragons.org> wrote in message
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> Words to the wise, "The Stare" <wat1.DeleteThis@not.likely.frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many years
>>ago and found laying around.
>>
>>http://watorrey.net/ultima/u7bgfov/trainers.html
>>
>>Comments/suggestions/information?
>
> Add pictures of each Trainer, both figural and portrait? :>

Is there a way to extract the graphics from the game files?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:35 pm
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Words to the wise, "The Stare" <wat1.TakeThisOut@not.likely.frontiernet.net>
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>Is there a way to extract the graphics from the game files?
>

Puh, i do not know that, I would resort to doing screenshots while
playing in exult.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:35 pm
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"Claus Dragon" <claus.DeleteThis@ultima-dragons.org> wrote in message
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> Words to the wise, "The Stare" <wat1.DeleteThis@not.likely.frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Is there a way to extract the graphics from the game files?
>>
>
> Puh, i do not know that, I would resort to doing screenshots while
> playing in exult.

Using dosbox and a quick test screenshot didn't work out. Maybe i'll get
around to trying some utilities.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:11 pm
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In article <35a9qcF4lb5dpU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>, wat1.TakeThisOut@not.likely.frontiernet.net
says...

>"Claus Dragon" <claus.TakeThisOut@ultima-dragons.org> wrote in message
>news:hrcvu09rgtus1qmi5ujtmhh26d7mm7s9bt@4ax.com...
>> Words to the wise, "The Stare" <wat1.TakeThisOut@not.likely.frontiernet.net>
>> wrote:

>>>Is there a way to extract the graphics from the game files?

>> Puh, i do not know that, I would resort to doing screenshots while
>> playing in exult.

>Using dosbox and a quick test screenshot didn't work out. Maybe i'll get
>around to trying some utilities.

Look for Screen Thief. I have had very good results with it.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:35 am
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> I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many years

Here is mine, not complete yet.

Name Town Price PointsConsumed Effect
----------------------------------------------------------------
Perrin Yew 45 3 Int +2 Magic +5
Penni Yew 35 2 Str +1 Com +1
Bradman Yew ?
Sentri Britain -- 1 Dex +1 Com +2
Denby Britain 75 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +2 Magic +3
Rayburt Cove 60 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +3
Markus Trinsic 20 1 Com +1
Menion S.Hold 45 3 Str +2 Com +1
Karenna Minoc 20 3 Dex +2 Com +5
Jakher Minoc 20 2 Str +1 Int +1
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:35 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:35 am
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s.DeleteThis@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
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>> I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many
>> years
>
> Here is mine, not complete yet.
>
> Name Town Price PointsConsumed Effect
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Perrin Yew 45 3 Int +2 Magic +5
> Penni Yew 35 2 Str +1 Com +1
> Bradman Yew ?
> Sentri Britain -- 1 Dex +1 Com +2
> Denby Britain 75 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +2 Magic +3
> Rayburt Cove 60 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +3
> Markus Trinsic 20 1 Com +1
> Menion S.Hold 45 3 Str +2 Com +1
> Karenna Minoc 20 3 Dex +2 Com +5
> Jakher Minoc 20 2 Str +1 Int +1


There must be a random factor involved. Sentri has only provided +1+1 for me
and Denby gave me +5 magic with no combat. I'm gonna stick with the X's
instead of trying to give values.

The training points don't look like they vary and i will update the page
with the ones you have and i don't. Thanks Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:35 am
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The Stare wrote:

> There must be a random factor involved. Sentri has only provided +1+1 for
> me and Denby gave me +5 magic with no combat. I'm gonna stick with the X's
> instead of trying to give values.

Quite some time ago another Dragon worked out a training table for U7, and
even included information about the "formula" involved. Infinitron
Dragon, it was.

Actually I tracked down the thread on rgcud where we discussed it:
http://tinyurl.com/67cjd

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:44 pm
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"Chris Craig" <usenet.RemoveThis@ciotog.net> wrote in message
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> The Stare wrote:
>
>> There must be a random factor involved. Sentri has only provided +1+1 for
>> me and Denby gave me +5 magic with no combat. I'm gonna stick with the
>> X's
>> instead of trying to give values.
>
> Quite some time ago another Dragon worked out a training table for U7, and
> even included information about the "formula" involved. Infinitron
> Dragon, it was.
>
> Actually I tracked down the thread on rgcud where we discussed it:
> http://tinyurl.com/67cjd

LOL... i guess google archives things a little longer than my news server.

That verifies that a random factor is involved. So i updated the text and
will keep updating the chart.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:47 pm
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s.TakeThisOut@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
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>> I put together a trainer chart for U7 BG from one i printed out many
>> years
>
> Here is mine, not complete yet.
>
> Name Town Price PointsConsumed Effect
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Perrin Yew 45 3 Int +2 Magic +5
> Penni Yew 35 2 Str +1 Com +1
> Bradman Yew ?
> Sentri Britain -- 1 Dex +1 Com +2
> Denby Britain 75 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +2 Magic +3
> Rayburt Cove 60 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +3
> Markus Trinsic 20 1 Com +1
> Menion S.Hold 45 3 Str +2 Com +1
> Karenna Minoc 20 3 Dex +2 Com +5
> Jakher Minoc 20 2 Str +1 Int +1

I would love to see a more complete chart when you get it done. Are you
using Exult? I'm curious if that makes a difference.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:58 am
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> > Here is mine, not complete yet.
> >
> > Name Town Price PointsConsumed Effect
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Perrin Yew 45 3 Int +2 Magic +5
> > Penni Yew 35 2 Str +1 Com +1
> > Bradman Yew ?
> > Sentri Britain -- 1 Dex +1 Com +2
> > Denby Britain 75 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +2 Magic +3
> > Rayburt Cove 60 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +3
> > Markus Trinsic 20 1 Com +1
> > Menion S.Hold 45 3 Str +2 Com +1
> > Karenna Minoc 20 3 Dex +2 Com +5
> > Jakher Minoc 20 2 Str +1 Int +1
>
> I would love to see a more complete chart when you get it done. Are you
> using Exult? I'm curious if that makes a difference.

I use native U7+FoV on MS Virtual PC, but sorry, these figures turned out to
be variable and not fixed.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:32 am
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"Moscow Dragon" <maxim__s RemoveThis @mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
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>> > Here is mine, not complete yet.
>> >
>> > Name Town Price PointsConsumed Effect
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Perrin Yew 45 3 Int +2 Magic +5
>> > Penni Yew 35 2 Str +1 Com +1
>> > Bradman Yew ?
>> > Sentri Britain -- 1 Dex +1 Com +2
>> > Denby Britain 75 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +2 Magic +3
>> > Rayburt Cove 60 3 Dex +1 Int +1 Com +3
>> > Markus Trinsic 20 1 Com +1
>> > Menion S.Hold 45 3 Str +2 Com +1
>> > Karenna Minoc 20 3 Dex +2 Com +5
>> > Jakher Minoc 20 2 Str +1 Int +1
>>
>> I would love to see a more complete chart when you get it done. Are you
>> using Exult? I'm curious if that makes a difference.
>
> I use native U7+FoV on MS Virtual PC, but sorry, these figures turned out
> to
> be variable and not fixed.

I reworded the chart description and got rid of the double X's. The only
thing missing is some points used and probably some corrections on what the
trainers specialize in.
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