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John Gordon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:56 pm
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My guild is currently working on Leotheras in SSC. We got him to about
50% on our most recent attmpt, so we're making good progress.

The few times I've gotten an Inner Demon, though, I've struggled to kill
it. Others in the raid are killing theirs with ease, but I am having
real trouble.

I play an Affliction (41/1/19) warlock, so I'm not great at burst damage.
Still, with raid buffs I have about 1100 spell damage, so it doesn't seem
like it should be this hard.

Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just be spamming Shadowbolt, or
should I throw in a few instant dots? Should I spend a few GCDs on
fear/deathcoil to avoid pushback, or just concentrate on damage?

Thanks for your input.

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lcpltom

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:56 pm
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On Sep 6, 11:32 am, John Gordon <gor....TakeThisOut@panix.com> wrote:
> My guild is currently working on Leotheras in SSC. We got him to about
> 50% on our most recent attmpt, so we're making good progress.
>
> The few times I've gotten an Inner Demon, though, I've struggled to kill
> it. Others in the raid are killing theirs with ease, but I am having
> real trouble.
>
> I play an Affliction (41/1/19) warlock, so I'm not great at burst damage.
> Still, with raid buffs I have about 1100 spell damage, so it doesn't seem
> like it should be this hard.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just be spamming Shadowbolt, or
> should I throw in a few instant dots? Should I spend a few GCDs on
> fear/deathcoil to avoid pushback, or just concentrate on damage?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> --
> John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
> gor....TakeThisOut@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
> -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

If you're affliction specced, then I am assuming you have imp drain
health, siphon life, and unstable affliction. I'd say dot up the
target and drain tank it. I'd imagine for raids you are using your
imp and have dark pact to steal mana from him.

You might also consider, if you have them, trinkets that have a Use
effect of granting you X ammount of spell damage for a certain period
of time. Save them for these demons. The effect lasts long enough
that you can get all those dots applied and still have enough time
left to use a drain life.

You might also want to see if these mobs have some kind of shadow
resistance. Being a heavy affliction spec, you probably use more
shadow spells than fire spells. Try switching to immolate+incinerate
and see if that makes a difference. If so, then the mobs probably
have some kind of shadow resistance. I had this problem with the rock
flayers in Netherstorm and certain types of Voidwalkers in Hellfire
Peninsula.

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Kimbelyn

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:56 pm
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John Gordon wrote:
> My guild is currently working on Leotheras in SSC. We got him to about
> 50% on our most recent attmpt, so we're making good progress.
>
> The few times I've gotten an Inner Demon, though, I've struggled to kill
> it. Others in the raid are killing theirs with ease, but I am having
> real trouble.
>
> I play an Affliction (41/1/19) warlock, so I'm not great at burst damage.
> Still, with raid buffs I have about 1100 spell damage, so it doesn't seem
> like it should be this hard.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just be spamming Shadowbolt, or
> should I throw in a few instant dots? Should I spend a few GCDs on
> fear/deathcoil to avoid pushback, or just concentrate on damage?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>

there is a good amount of time you have before he needs to die. i'd give
immolate + corruption a try then spam shadowbolt from there. you should
have no issues with your spell damage. as a healer, im told to use at
least +300 dmg, but my leo gear is around +419 dmg and i have no issues
taking mine out.

kim <3
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Kai

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:10 am
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dOn 6 Sep., 17:32, John Gordon <gor... RemoveThis @panix.com> wrote:
> My guild is currently working on Leotheras in SSC. We got him to about
> 50% on our most recent attmpt, so we're making good progress.
>
> The few times I've gotten an Inner Demon, though, I've struggled to kill
> it. Others in the raid are killing theirs with ease, but I am having
> real trouble.
>
> I play an Affliction (41/1/19) warlock, so I'm not great at burst damage.
> Still, with raid buffs I have about 1100 spell damage, so it doesn't seem
> like it should be this hard.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just be spamming Shadowbolt, or
> should I throw in a few instant dots? Should I spend a few GCDs on
> fear/deathcoil to avoid pushback, or just concentrate on damage?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> --
> John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
> gor... RemoveThis @panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
> -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

I find it really easy to kill my demon. It's rather an annoyance,
since you can't DPS the boss during the demon stage and it's a bit
nasty on the mana consumption to switch targets.

I don't know exactly what kind of talent setup you have - i had Imp
HoT and Shadowburn when i was affliction.

Anyway, when the demon pops, make sure you target him fast. HoT him
away, gives you enough time to dot him up without interruptions. Use
all DoTs baring Siphon life, which would take too much mana for
practically no benefit. So, now he's taking damage from UA, Corr, Immo
and CoA. Throw in a Death Coil, Shadowburn and a Shadowbolt or two and
you should be golden.

I think the main point is to fully concentrate on your demon when you
get it. At your gear level (seems a bit more spelldamage compared to
me), you should easily be able to put out those 10-12k damage in that
15-18 seconds.

Kai
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Mr Murloc

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:09 am
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I think alot of people have trouble with Inner Demons, most people go to see
a psychiatrist

(sorry couldn't resist!)
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Urs Steiner

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:39 pm
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lcpltom wrote:
> On Sep 6, 11:32 am, John Gordon <gor....DeleteThis@panix.com> wrote:
>> My guild is currently working on Leotheras in SSC. We got him to about
>> 50% on our most recent attmpt, so we're making good progress.
>>
>> The few times I've gotten an Inner Demon, though, I've struggled to kill
>> it. Others in the raid are killing theirs with ease, but I am having
>> real trouble.
>>
>> I play an Affliction (41/1/19) warlock, so I'm not great at burst damage.
>> Still, with raid buffs I have about 1100 spell damage, so it doesn't seem
>> like it should be this hard.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions? Should I just be spamming Shadowbolt, or
>> should I throw in a few instant dots? Should I spend a few GCDs on
>> fear/deathcoil to avoid pushback, or just concentrate on damage?
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> --
>> John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
>> gor....DeleteThis@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
>> -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"
>
> If you're affliction specced, then I am assuming you have imp drain
> health, siphon life, and unstable affliction. I'd say dot up the
> target and drain tank it. I'd imagine for raids you are using your
> imp and have dark pact to steal mana from him.
>
> You might also consider, if you have them, trinkets that have a Use
> effect of granting you X ammount of spell damage for a certain period
> of time. Save them for these demons. The effect lasts long enough
> that you can get all those dots applied and still have enough time
> left to use a drain life.
>
> You might also want to see if these mobs have some kind of shadow
> resistance.

yes/no. The inner demons have are not so vulnerable to shadow, fire and
(something other, may be frost) damage, but are more vulnerable to
holy, nature and (might be arcane, I'm not sure) damage. Yes, this is to
make it easier on the healing classes.

Warlocks are left out to dry, yes.
Ah, one other tip: try to make sure it's not your pet killing the demon.
There is/was a bug where you'd get MCed anyway in that case.

Urs

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