Trading wirelessly, another question...

Chet Weavile (The pun was too good to pass up) wrote:

> I believe it means "caught." When you catch a Pokemon, there's a
> flashing banner that tells you that its registration is complete.
> However, my manual says "recorded," which might mean just having seen
> it.

You're right, it does say "recorded." There probably isn't much of a
difference, but I guess it may be possible to see certain Pokemon that
you can't normally catch in the game, such as with trainers you battle
(seeing your rival's starter).

> Assume it means you can't specify that you want one. I haven't gotten
> that far yet, but since it says the same thing about GTS searches I
> would imagine that if you want a Pokemon you haven't already seen the
> best you can do is accept whatever Pokemon the other player is willing
> to give you.

Hmm, so it sounds like if Diamond and Pearl want to trade with each
other, they have to post a pokemon for trade and not specify what they
want, and then just hope the person who accepts the trade has a
version-specific pokemon on their end! Oh well, I guess I'll have to use
the other trade feature to get what I want.

If this really is the case, then what's the point of GTS if not to get
pokemon you can't get yourself?
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On Apr 28, 9:49 am, John Salerno <johnj... DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Chet Weavile (The pun was too good to pass up) wrote:
>
> > I believe it means "caught." When you catch a Pokemon, there's a
> > flashing banner that tells you that its registration is complete.
> > However, my manual says "recorded," which might mean just having seen
> > it.
>
> You're right, it does say "recorded." There probably isn't much of a
> difference, but I guess it may be possible to see certain Pokemon that
> you can't normally catch in the game, such as with trainers you battle
> (seeing your rival's starter).
>
Yeah, that tends to be the case. For instance, the first gym leader
I battled had a Pokemon I hadn't met before, but when I looked it up
in the PokeDex to see where it nests it said "Location Unknown." That
usually means its a Pokemon I can't catch in the wild, and I happen to
know that this Pokemon is not in both versions.

> > Assume it means you can't specify that you want one. I haven't gotten
> > that far yet, but since it says the same thing about GTS searches I
> > would imagine that if you want a Pokemon you haven't already seen the
> > best you can do is accept whatever Pokemon the other player is willing
> > to give you.
>
> Hmm, so it sounds like if Diamond and Pearl want to trade with each
> other, they have to post a pokemon for trade and not specify what they
> want, and then just hope the person who accepts the trade has a
> version-specific pokemon on their end! Oh well, I guess I'll have to use
> the other trade feature to get what I want.
>
> If this really is the case, then what's the point of GTS if not to get
> pokemon you can't get yourself?

I think its set up that way as part of Nintendo's philosophy. If
you'll recall, Nintendo was pretty reluctant to use on-line play as
they believed multiplayer is best used with people you know. By only
allowing you to specify Pokemon listed in your PokeDex they make it so
you have to collect friend codes to get the ones that aren't, and the
only way to get friend codes is to talk to real people. If you could
complete your PokeDex just using the GTS, the entire thing becomes
impersonal and probably makes it too simple. Since the GTS is so
early in the game, you could probably fill out the PokeDex on your
first day of play if there weren't so many restrictions on it.

-- Chet Weaver
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Chet Weavile (The pun was too good to pass up) wrote:

> I think its set up that way as part of Nintendo's philosophy. If
> you'll recall, Nintendo was pretty reluctant to use on-line play as
> they believed multiplayer is best used with people you know. By only
> allowing you to specify Pokemon listed in your PokeDex they make it so
> you have to collect friend codes to get the ones that aren't, and the
> only way to get friend codes is to talk to real people. If you could
> complete your PokeDex just using the GTS, the entire thing becomes
> impersonal and probably makes it too simple. Since the GTS is so
> early in the game, you could probably fill out the PokeDex on your
> first day of play if there weren't so many restrictions on it.

That sounds about right to me. At first I thought the GTS was too good
to be true, and I guess it is. But at least there's the other way,
and I assume people here in the ng will start trading codes once they
get that far.
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John Salerno wrote:
> Chet Weavile (The pun was too good to pass up) wrote:
>
>> I think its set up that way as part of Nintendo's philosophy. If
>> you'll recall, Nintendo was pretty reluctant to use on-line play as
>> they believed multiplayer is best used with people you know. By only
>> allowing you to specify Pokemon listed in your PokeDex they make it so
>> you have to collect friend codes to get the ones that aren't, and the
>> only way to get friend codes is to talk to real people. If you could
>> complete your PokeDex just using the GTS, the entire thing becomes
>> impersonal and probably makes it too simple. Since the GTS is so
>> early in the game, you could probably fill out the PokeDex on your
>> first day of play if there weren't so many restrictions on it.
>
> That sounds about right to me. At first I thought the GTS was too good
> to be true, and I guess it is. But at least there's the other way,
> and I assume people here in the ng will start trading codes once they
> get that far.

Did you guys just go and try it? You can ask for pokemon that you've
only seen, not caught. According to the NP strategy guide if you battle
all the trainers and go to all the side trips you should see all of them
by the time you beat the elite 4.
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On Apr 29, 7:54 pm, John Salerno <johnj....DeleteThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does that include the legendary and the fossil? I guess those are the
> only two that you might not be able to get with the GTS then. I hope
> you're right that we'll see them all. I've noticed that when I bring up
> the menu screen, the "Pokedex" line lists the number of pokemon seen,
> not caught (I think in the past it used to list the number caught,
> didn't it?). I guess this is changed up to work this way since otherwise
> it would be pretty hard to get the national pokedex (because getting
> that is different than past games too).

I noticed Rowan's PC works that way, too. Previous Professors would
take note of both Pokemon seen and caught, but Rowan only counts the
ones you've seen. It strikes me as a little odd.

-- Chet Weaver
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Brion K. Lienhart wrote:

> Did you guys just go and try it? You can ask for pokemon that you've
> only seen, not caught. According to the NP strategy guide if you battle
> all the trainers and go to all the side trips you should see all of them
> by the time you beat the elite 4.

Does that include the legendary and the fossil? I guess those are the
only two that you might not be able to get with the GTS then. I hope
you're right that we'll see them all. I've noticed that when I bring up
the menu screen, the "Pokedex" line lists the number of pokemon seen,
not caught (I think in the past it used to list the number caught,
didn't it?). I guess this is changed up to work this way since otherwise
it would be pretty hard to get the national pokedex (because getting
that is different than past games too).
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Chet Weavile (The pun was too good to pass up) wrote:

> I noticed Rowan's PC works that way, too. Previous Professors would
> take note of both Pokemon seen and caught, but Rowan only counts the
> ones you've seen. It strikes me as a little odd.

I agree. D/P seem to have changed the focus to *seeing* all the pokemon
instead of catching them.

Since unlocking the national dex seems only to require seeing the first
150, I kind of had a little flash of "why am i even catching them then"
just a while ago.
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GTS is a Wifi connection as well as the PCenter basement. With GTS you need
to have at least seen the Pokemon in order to trade for it.

the 2nd floor of the PCenter is wireless -- on day 1 I've traded the 2 other
starters from Pearl to Diamond without a gym badge or gong much farther
than Sandgem.

You can go wireless to get the version exclusives like Bonsly and Mime Jr.,
or wait till you've seen it and then GTS search.


"John Salerno" <johnjsal.RemoveThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm about to start Diamond as soon as I'm done posting!
>
> But first a question: I read in the manual that you can only set up as
> criteria for a trade (in GTS) pokemon that are already registered in your
> pokedex. So this raises two questions:
>
> 1. What do they mean by "registered"? Caught, or just seen?
> 2. Does this mean that it's impossible to trade for pokemon that are in
> Pearl?
>
> If the answer to #2 is yes, then can you at least trade with Pearl users
> from the other wireless trading method (using friend codes)?
>
> Thanks.
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