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<mbgaski DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 29, 12:21 pm, "Xymmie" <xym... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> I use news.individual.net as my news server everywhere, including work,
>> too,
>> as I can set up my account on Outlook Newsreader even though the company
>> uses Microsoft Outlook. The server is about $10-12 per year, and is
>> great -- works with lots of newsreaders.
>>
>> I recommend it highly. One account no matter where you are -- if you can
>> set up Thunderbird, OE, XNews, or other newsreader.
>>
>> Xymmie
>
> I use Astraweb when at home, but I (and I'd assume many) can't use a
> real newsreader here at work because all access is delegated through a
> proxy server. Essentially, all we have is web connections to the
> outside Internet.
>

Oh.

Our system is pretty policed, but they either 1) don't know about usenet or
2) don't care. I suspect the latter, as usenet is unknown to so many.

Xymmie


> Mike
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:52:16 -0500, hugo.RemoveThis@EINTR.net (Hugo Villeneuve)
wrote:

>twk <twk.RemoveThis@sleepless.knights.com> wrote:
>
>> --
>> Hypanthia, Night Elf, Shadow Priest, Enchantress/Herbalist.
>> Darkfury, Gnome, Rogue, Miner/Jewel Crafter.
>> Py, Dwarf, Hunter, Herbalist/Alchemist.
>> Bigpotpie, Tauren, Hunter, Herbalist/Alchemist.
>> Bigpotpie, Tauren, Druid, Herbalist/Alchemist (Nathrezim realm).
>>
>> Not the deadliest bunch on Cenarion Circle, but they do well.
>
>A signature bigger than 4 lines. And you are commenting on others bad
>posting practice.
>
>Or you beleive those old rules from the early internet/usenet days can
>adapt to the actual change that occured in the people usages since then.

Yeah, I pretty much gave up on the 4 line signature on this group. I
have too many chars. I personally try to make sure a given post
is longer than my sig, but it's not always possible.

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Fthagn, Undead Warrior
Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
Curwen, Blood Knight
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:05:28 -0600, "Xymmie" <xymmie.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist.TakeThisOut@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> It's kind of like those people in Trade channel that are "looking for high
>> level enchanter". Good luck with that. The high level enchanters I know
>> won't respond unless you know what you actually want, in some detail.
>
>Or in gen chat "need help with a quest".
>
>Bah.

Or whispers...

"help me plz"

"With what?"

"a quest"

"Which quest?"

"it's near here, help plzzzzz"

"Well I might've done if you'd bothered to say exactly what you wanted help
with, but you've already wasted enough of my time now"

(I've never actually done the final comment there but I've often wanted to)
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Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 70)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 65)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 60)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
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"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM DeleteThis @totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:05:28 -0600, "Xymmie" <xymmie DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist DeleteThis @sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9A52EC2A98E50scratchmonkey@216.196.97.136...
>>>
>>> It's kind of like those people in Trade channel that are "looking for
>>> high
>>> level enchanter". Good luck with that. The high level enchanters I know
>>> won't respond unless you know what you actually want, in some detail.
>>
>>Or in gen chat "need help with a quest".
>>
>>Bah.
>
> Or whispers...
>
> "help me plz"
>
> "With what?"
>
> "a quest"
>
> "Which quest?"
>
> "it's near here, help plzzzzz"
>
> "Well I might've done if you'd bothered to say exactly what you wanted
> help
> with, but you've already wasted enough of my time now"
>
> (I've never actually done the final comment there but I've often wanted
> to)

<g> Yeah, me, too. Along about that time I just don't reply -- which is
probably what you're doing. I learned the hard way, though. Early on I
grouped with a couple of different quest beggars and found that they just
want to go along for the ride with a higher level to complete quests. And,
of course, share the booty.

Excuse me, but if I can do this alone, I'm going to do it alone.

That's been the rude awakening for me at L70. I'm going to have to group
for some of the quests that suggest a group. I can't wait it out for a
couple more levels. I guess I'll be getting to know some of the players on
my server a bit better.

Xymmie
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twk <twk.TakeThisOut@sleepless.knights.com> writes:
>I really hit a nerve here. It seems ego is what matters most. Ease of

Take your nerve and stick it. If you think it's a virtue to ignore the
conventions of an established group (and in fact most of an entire
communications medium), then screw you too. *
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"Gumby619" <Gumby619 DeleteThis @cox.net> writes:
>Established convention....To the Nazi's that was exterminating a whole race.

Thread over. *
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ScratchMonkey.TakeThisOut@sewingwitch.com writes:
>It's kind of like those people in Trade channel that are "looking for high
>level enchanter". Good luck with that. The high level enchanters I know
>won't respond unless you know what you actually want, in some detail.

Gah! I have this conversation on /trade at least once a week. They just
never get it. I also see "LF Jewelcrafter" messages too, which makes me
laugh almost as hard. *
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do-not-email RemoveThis @nowhere.com (nobody) writes:
>Actually I disagree. I find it better to top post. I have already read

We don't care what you think is better in this case. If you want to be part
of a community, you use the conventions of that community. Usenet has used
the interposting model for messages for as long as it's existed. *
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:13:48 -0800 (PST), "djarvinen@gmail.com"
<djarvinen.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 28, 10:05 am, Palindrome <damon-no....TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>> You mean it requires a near-superhuman effort on your part to change
>> to something that actually works better?

>No, it requires changing ISPs and I've still got one year left of my
>current crummy contract.

Ah, my sympathies. Tiscali is not the most reliable of ISPs either



Palindrome
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"mbgaski@gmail.com" <mbgaski.RemoveThis@gmail.com> writes:
>Noob: Where is the Temple of Awesomeness?
>Me: 45,23
>Noob: I don't have the coordinates thing. Can you show me?
>Me: /ignore Noob

Me: "Take a left turn at albuquerque. You can't miss it." *
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"mbgaski@gmail.com" <mbgaski.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in news:99217c50-1c1c-4a27-
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> Noob: Where is the Temple of Awesomeness?
> Me: 45,23
> Noob: I don't have the coordinates thing. Can you show me?
> Me: /ignore Noob
>
> If you're going to ask for directions to a specific location in a
> zone, at least have the coordinates mods :S.

Often they've bought into the FUD that addons are cheats and will get them
banned, or they're worried about trojans that will steal their WoW account
and leave their character naked. (Rightly so: One trojan was in the
*screenshot* for an addon at one of the popular addon sites. Viewing the
web page with an unpatched IE would infect you.) (Everyone: Go patch your
system with the latest security updates. Right now. And stop using
Incontinent Exploder, the biggest target of trojans.)
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"djarvinen@gmail.com" <djarvinen.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in news:8677fb7f-1728-
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> Unfortunately this thread had drifted off-topic a bit, and I really ws
> referrering only to email messages (where top-posting/bottom-posting
> is also an issue).

Email, especially in business, is different. The problem there is that the
thread is often joined later by carbon copy (CC) and the newcomers need the
full context of what went before. (I've seen recipient lists explode to
involve a dozen people at each of 4 companies to work a tricky problem.)
The better technical solution in such cases is some kind of issue tracking
system where all comments are available online to logged-in users, but it's
hard to get that right when multiple companies are involved and one needs a
degree of confidentiality. (As if email served that end.) It's like the
saying that when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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On Feb 29, 6:41 pm, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> "mbga...@gmail.com" <mbga... RemoveThis @gmail.com> writes:
> >Noob: Where is the Temple of Awesomeness?
> >Me: 45,23
> >Noob: I don't have the coordinates thing.  Can you show me?
> >Me: /ignore Noob
>
> Me: "Take a left turn at albuquerque. You can't miss it." *

Well, whatever. Most of us don't need coordinate cheats to get
around. If some idiot can't describe the location of a place in in-
game terms, it's really better for everyone playing the game if he
doesn't reply at all.

- Gerry Quinn
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