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On Jul 16, 11:21 am, Pete B <xxxh DeleteThis @_someething.com> wrote:
> So.. what is the difference between people who call their characters
> "toons" and those who refuse?

Like Xymmie, I thought "toon" was the accepted title in this game.
When the person who asked me to try this game sent me e-mails
describing it, he always used the term "toon", so I just thought it
was the accepted nomenclature specific to WoW.

Anyway, the word I can't stand is "alt". I devote a lot of time, care
and effort into each one of my characters, and "alt", to me, makes
them sound trivial, dismissive and emotionally diminutive - "he's just
an alt". I know how silly that sounds. But my characters are
"characters", not "toons", and most certainly not "alts".

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On 17 juil, 15:03, Catriona R <catrionarNOS....TakeThisOut@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:46:24 +0200 (CEST), Lancelet
>
> <lancelet.nos....TakeThisOut@merci.invalid> wrote:
> >Babe Bridou <babebri....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >news:1184655860.915061.140980@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> here are some warcraft acromonyms (homonymous acronyms). All of those
> >> have multiple meanings in game - I'll let you guess which ones those
> >> are
>
> >Since I speak and play in french, some are quite mysterious.
>
> I can fill in a few more, not all..
>

It's okay, I had a few prepared, but even then they were not quite
complete Here are a few additions:

> >> _TM
>
> >Tarren Mill
> >Thrallmar?
>
Tactical Mastery


> >> _SS
>
> >Southshore
> >Sinister Strike
>
> Soulstone
>
Screenshot

> >> _PoM (famous blue mistake )
>
> >Priere of mending
>
> Presence of Mind
>
> >> _BS
>
> >Blacksmith
> >Bullshit (sorry)
Battle Shout

>
> >> _GM
>
> >Game Master
> >Guild Master
Gold Mine

>
> >> _AE
>
> Arcane Explosion
Area of Effect (sometimes "AOE")
>
> >> _RH
Raven Hill
Razor Hill

> >> _SL
> >Shadow Lab
> Soul Link

> >> _GL
> Guild Leader?
Good luck

>
> >> _MH
> Mainhand
Main Healer

> >> _NS
>
> Netherstorm
> Nightslayer?
Nature's Swiftness
Netherspite
NexusStrike (ok this one is a bit tricky. I'll explain)

NexusStrike http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17074
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Polearm
147 - 221 Damage Speed 3.10
(59.4 damage per second)
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 58
Chance on hit: Steals 100 to 180 life from target enemy.
Use: Transforms Nexusstrike into Thundershard.

Thundershard http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17223
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Polearm
147 - 221 Damage Speed 3.10
(59.4 damage per second)
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 58
Chance on hit: Blasts up to 3 targets for 150 to 250 Nature damage.
Each target after the first takes less damage.
Use: Transforms Thundershard into NexusStrike.

>
> >> _FB
>
> >FireBall
> Frostbolt
>
> >> _FC
> Flag carrier?

>
> >> _AR
> >Arcane resist
Arcanite Reaper HO!
Attack Rating

>
> >> _FR
> >Fire resist
> >Fel Reaver?
> Frost resist?
Felsteel Reaper HO!

>
> >> _AS
> Arcane shot?
Aimed Shot
Auto Shot
Arcane Subtlety

> >> _MS
> >Marksmanship
> Would think Marksmanship would normally be MM?
it is, usually

> Mortal Strike
> Multishot

> >> _BM
> >Beast Master
> >Black Morass
>
> >> _BoP
>
> >Bind on Picked up
> Blessing of protection
>
> >> _BoS
>
> Blessing of Salvation
> Blessing of Sanctuary
> Blessing of Sacrifice
>
> >> _CC
>
> >Crowd control
Cone of Cold

> >> _DS
> Dragonstalker?
Distracting Shot

....even then I think there are more to be found
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In article <5g1holF3fbldaU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>, xymmie DeleteThis @gmail.com
says...

> *I was frequently, at my beginning, having to look up the commonly tossed
> around Warcraft shortspeak: mobs, DoT, DPS, AoE, STV, DM, PuG, etc.

Yeah, it does become a bit much at times.
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In article <J7udnWwORPojsAHbnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>,
polarhound DeleteThis @comcast.net says...
> Darin Johnson wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 4:12 pm, Polarhound <polarho... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> >> And why is each individual monster called a mob?
> >
> > It's what they were called on the first MUDs. "Mob"
> > was a "mobile object", or "mobile" for short. Anything
> > alive that wasn't a player. The term just sort of
> > stuck around in later multi player games.
>
> Of which I could more easily accept had even a small portion of WoW
> players actually ever played a MUD/MUCK/MUSH/etc....

I have. But that is not relevant for words, people use words they
inherit from those who came before them.
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In article <1184682875.788638.4110.RemoveThis@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com says...
> Anyway, the word I can't stand is "alt". I devote a lot of time, care
> and effort into each one of my characters, and "alt", to me, makes
> them sound trivial, dismissive and emotionally diminutive - "he's just
> an alt". I know how silly that sounds. But my characters are
> "characters", not "toons", and most certainly not "alts".

Yeah I can follow you on alt, though i think that some characters may be
worthy of the label alt - if i have a level 1-2, who has just be run to
the bank and is simply receiving stuff via the mail and put it on the
auction house, its not really much more than an alt.

But the others who have seen battle are clearly not just an alt
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:27:30 -0700, neithskye <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> sayeth:
> Anyway, the word I can't stand is "alt". I devote a lot of time, care
> and effort into each one of my characters, and "alt", to me, makes
> them sound trivial, dismissive and emotionally diminutive - "he's just
> an alt". I know how silly that sounds. But my characters are
> "characters", not "toons", and most certainly not "alts".

The term "alt" really has nothing to do with feelings, emotions, etc.,
about your character.

It's more often used in guilds that need to know which of your chars
is the one you will be using during instance runs and that will
be advancing with gear progression. The rest are just alternates.

Most high-end guilds don't really let you play multiple characters
since you'll end up having mediocre gear on all of them. They
prefer you to have a "main" that progresses quickly with gear,
and then you have "alternates" that are more for casual fun play.

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In article <139nn4jgtr51tc6 RemoveThis @news.supernews.com>, pv+usenet@pobox.com
says...
> Pete B <xxxh RemoveThis @_someething.com> writes:
> >
> >So.. what is the difference between people who call their characters
> >"toons" and those who refuse?
>
> People who call their characters toons are dumb?

Oh go on then, lets do it *g*
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On Jul 17, 11:51 am, JayMcK <jaymck... DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Probably showing my age here, but I was playing Vincent's Hollow via
> telnet in '91. Back then the address was (I think) mud.iastate.edu
> Now it has it's own domain atwww.vhdev.com
> I remember thinking that it was amazing, like playing "Zork" (remember
> that one?) with a bunch of people at the same time. Had a program that
> mapped macros to the function keys... about the only one I remember (and
> the syntax may be way off):
> cast volcano
> get stone
> get stone
> get stone
> get stone
>

Good ol' text rpgs. I'm not even that old (25) but I remember them
well. Back around that same time I was playing "Legend of the Red
Dragon", but on local BBS's instead of Telnet. BBS's were really cool
because it was mostly all local people. Most of them only had a
single phone line so there was no "live" multiplayer, but still fun to
fight the other players, even if they were offline .

Mike
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:09:12 -0700, Babe Bridou <babebridou RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> >> _BS
>>
>> >Blacksmith
>> >Bullshit (sorry)
>Battle Shout

Which reminds me of...

CS:
Commanding Shout
Cheap Shot
Counterspell
Customer Service

(hmm, that's even more than I initially thought of, more kept appearing as
I typed )

>> >> _AE
>>
>> Arcane Explosion
>Area of Effect (sometimes "AOE")

Never seen AoE shortened to AE tbh, it's always just AOE on my server at
least

>> >> _GL
>> Guild Leader?
>Good luck

Lol I never even thought of that one, not WoW-specific, that's cheating

>> >> _MH
>> Mainhand
>Main Healer

Reminds me of:

MT
Main tank
Mana Tombs
(Mistell)

>NexusStrike (ok this one is a bit tricky. I'll explain)

Ahh, I always heard that one called VendorStrike

>...even then I think there are more to be found

Bound to be, I thought of another one earlier but forgot it before I
reached this thread again
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On Jul 18, 1:59 pm, "mbga...@gmail.com" <mbga... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> BBS's were really cool
> because it was mostly all local people.

Actually the MUD I co-ran had a huge local contingent,
because locals could get dialup to the university to
a computer that had access. It was kind of wierd
to actually have local parties and see these people
in real life.

The MUD I ran was based on LPMUD, not Abermud or Diku
(which had a more direct lineage with Everquest). It
was more puzzle and text adventure oriented in many
ways, and a lot easier to customize and create new
areas for. So there was a lot of experimentation
with ideas and content and features. We definately
work hard to make something that was more than "go
kill stuff, get loot, sell loot and heal, repeat" style.
Some of the ideas are still around, though many were
probably re-invented instead of being direct
descendents.

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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:10:32 -0400, JayMcK <jaymckZZZ.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>I have no problem with the term "alt". From what you've said, it sounds
>as though you have multiple "mains" (though "common sense" would dictate
>that there can be only one main). Many players have characters that
>stay in a big city to use as a bank/auction house character, who never
>progresses past level 1 and never leaves that city. Or, like me, some
>have low-level characters that they only play when they get frustrated
>with some quest or other goal that is giving problems. Those characters
>truly are "alts".
>

(While we're on the subject of pet peeves, a plea. Please don't
top-post. It makes posts increasingly hard to follow as the number of
quotes climbs.)

>neithskye wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the word I can't stand is "alt". I devote a lot of time, care
>> and effort into each one of my characters, and "alt", to me, makes
>> them sound trivial, dismissive and emotionally diminutive - "he's just
>> an alt". I know how silly that sounds. But my characters are
>> "characters", not "toons", and most certainly not "alts".
>>

I totally agree with the grandparent. The whole main/alt concept is a
particular mindset that isn't universally applicable. Not everyone
plays that way. Personally I object to the assumption that one of my
toons is somehow special to me compared to the (many) others. I have
multiple characters, pure and simple. At any one time there will
usually be a smallish number that I'm playing to the broad exclusion
of the others, but which those will be in a month or two is totally
unpredictable.

As to whether they're toons or characters, though - I have no strong
opinion, and use the two interchangably. If push came to shove I'd
have to say that "character" to me suggests rather more
differentiation between individuals (excluding gear) than Warcraft
permits. Strip off their gear, and one fire mage is pretty much like
another, for example. "Toons" is probably a better term on that
basis. Plus it's shorter to say and type, of course.

Cheers - Ian
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On Jul 25, 3:44 am, Ian Noble <fr... RemoveThis @dropthis.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> >neithskye wrote:
>
> >> Anyway, the word I can't stand is "alt". I devote a lot of time, care
> >> and effort into each one of my characters, and "alt", to me, makes
> >> them sound trivial, dismissive and emotionally diminutive - "he's just
> >> an alt". I know how silly that sounds. But my characters are
> >> "characters", not "toons", and most certainly not "alts".
>
> I totally agree with the grandparent. The whole main/alt concept is a
> particular mindset that isn't universally applicable. Not everyone
> plays that way. Personally I object to the assumption that one of my
> toons is somehow special to me compared to the (many) others. I have
> multiple characters, pure and simple.

That's a better explanation than what I wrote. I also object to the
notion that one of my characters is more special to me. But I'm an
editor; I read entirely waaaay too much into words.

I'm not sure, but I think you were replying to me. As I was born in
the 70s, I'm not quite a grandparent yet. And as I don't have
children, I'm really not quite a grandparent yet.

--
Jill
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