Titan Quest Cheats?

On 28 Jun 2006 16:11:30 -0700, allan_c_cybulskie.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca wrote:

>
> John Lewis wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:47:27 -0700, Marut Escabel
> > <tecknode.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcts.com> wrote:
> >
> > >OK, Titan Quest is out. At least at Amazon.
> > >
> > >Cheat list yet?
> > >
> >
> > Excuse me, exactly why would you want such an item ?
> > Assuming that you pay for the game, I cannot fathom your logic.
> > Maybe you just collect games like butterflies, your only enjoyment
> > being able to boast that you finished a game in a shorter time than
> > anybody else ?
>
> Or, considering that this is an RPG group ... maybe he wants to go
> through the story and be able to role play the game to the best of his
> ability without having to worry about how he'd be gimping his character
> for combat?
>
> Not everyone who uses cheats or makes the difficulty easier does it
> only to get the enjoyment of finishing it faster, you know ...

Thanks Allan, you're correct.

Also, and this has been said many times in many ways, I play games my
way and others play games their way. It's called freedom and how I
play does not effect how others play.


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Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> Wolfing wrote:
> > allan_c_cybulskie.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
> > > Well, who says that all people play a game because it's challenging?
> > >
> > > For me, most of the enjoyment I get from any game is enjoying either
> > > real or imagined story elements that take place in it. Challenging
> > > combat, therefore, is really, really bad for me; if I hit an encounter
> > > that I can't get past, or a puzzle that I can't complete, then I can't
> > > get on with the story, and if I can't get on with the story, I stop
> > > playing the game. This is particularly bad with RPGs, but fight games
> > > that contain stories -- Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter, kind of, as
> > > examples -- FPS', strategy games (although I tend to prefer to create
> > > my own stories for those) and other types of games can all hit this
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > In fact, the people who call for the games to be "more challenging" and
> > > complain that the games are too easy -- especially RPGs -- annoy me.
> > > To me, the combat and puzzle elements are merely things for me to get
> > > past to get to the REAL fun: the story. So making it too hard for me
> > > to get past means I end up hating the game ... not a benefit, in my
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > Let me give you a fighting game example: X-Men: Mutant Academy (I
> > > think, might have been 2) on the PS2. It has a story mode. It sounds
> > > like a COOL story in story mode. And then I hit an encounter with a
> > > Sentinel where I had to beat him with Forge -- a character I didn't do
> > > well with -- in a set time limit. I couldn't do it, and put the story
> > > mode aside. If I hadn't used the versus mode to create my own stories
> > > on the fly, I would have ignored the game and called it at a minimum a
> > > wasted game. As it was, I ended up saying that it was quite enjoyable.
> > >
> > > This is also the reason why I don't generally like most MMORPGs ...
> > > it's all about combat and not about story. CoH/CoV and DAoC are
> > > exceptions because the varied classes and ties to the world make the
> > > combat a little more interesting.
> > >
> > > If you get your fun from the challenge in games, more power to you.
> > > But some people don't get their fun from challenge. Some of these
> > > people will use lower difficulty settings or cheats to improve their
> > > fun, but that doesn't make it any less fun than yours.
> > Like I said, everyone can enjoy the games however they want, they paid
> > the same $ for them, so this is not a critique but just curiosity...
> > If all you care about is story, aren't other games or even other media
> > types better suited for that? Adventure games for example, they are
> > not hard at all and many times have a deeper story than RPGs,
>
> Well, there are some issues with adventure games:
>
> 1) The puzzles can be hard, so I find RPGs in general to be easier than
> adventure games. Yes, you can often look them up on the Internet to
> see how to solve the puzzle, but I can do that for RPGs as well to get
> around their puzzles ... while having some of them be easy enough for
> me to complete myself.
>
> 2) I do find combat entertaining. I don't mind the combat at all ...
> the problem is that I don't really care if it's "challenging". If I
> have to reload combats to try out new tactics to win through, chances
> are I'm already hating the game. Any time losing a combat stops me
> from advancing causes me to be annoyed, but I far prefer participating
> in interesting combats to solving puzzles ... even if I look up the
> answers to the puzzles.
>
> 3) It's hard to ROLEPLAY in an adventure game; you are generally
> shoehorned into playing a very specific character or set of characters
> with NO choice over development or even conversation options. I enjoy
> roleplaying inside a set story more than simply playing a story.
>
> 4) Adventure games are not exactly popular anymore, leading to less
> hints available on the Internet and a harder time finding and buying
> them.
>
> and if
> > you get stuck just check the Internet and pass the place you're at,
> > it's not like RPGs in which you may have to retrace a lot and do stuff
> > like you mentioned, develop a character that you didn't (it's just
> > happening to me in FFX-2 as we speak, gotta beat a boss that I just
> > can't, went to the walkthroughs and they all mention some class I
> > didn't find).
>
> Well, this is a prime time to use cheats. Doesn't it ruin your fun to
> have to do that, when a cheat could get you past it?
>
> > Or out of the gaming world, how about books and/or
> > movies?
>
> I read a ton of books and watch some movies. The problem is that they
> are not interactive and don't allow you to roleplay. And I don't have
> time to write my own stories (although I'm trying [grin]).
>
> > I also like good stories in the games I play, but I also enjoy the
> > challenge.
>
> I'm of the "Lisa Simpson" attitude on that. In the episode where she
> attended the military school, when it was pointed out that she had
> wanted a challenge she replied: "A challenge I could do!" [grin].
>
> The same thing applies to me. I don't mind a challenge as long as I
> almost always win and can move on. A challenge that requires me to
> reply over and over the same combat will frustrate me to no end.
>
> > The thing is, let's say we both pay $40 for the game. Since I do the
> > whole thing with battles and what not, it may take me 40 hours to beat
> > it, so $1/hour, but with your cheats you may beat it in 5 hours, that's
> > $8/hour ouch! even more expensive than going to the movies
>
> Well, let's look at an example. I played "Wing Commander: The Price of
> Freedom" on the PS2 (PS game). I turned on the invulnerability
> options. I played through every combat, but just never got killed
> doing it, so I never replayed a mission. The only way you could claim
> that there'd be that much of a difference is if you replayed missions
> over and over to get them right. And if that was the case, then it
> strikes me that the game wasn't much fun itself and to do it without
> the invulnerability options would frustrate me enough to quit, not to
> play for 40 hours [grin].
>
> If the cheats just make it so that you always win combats, the time
> difference doesn't count. For example, in the old Gold Box games I
> used to modify my characters to give them all their max stats. I still
> had to fight all the combats, though. And one trick I use in Icewind
> Dale was to import characters that I had taken half-way through the
> game to the start to get over the whole "die from one goblin arrow"
> problem.
>
> Besides, if I finish it faster that gives me more ability to replay it
> to find things I missed the first time. Or with a different
> class/character. Or with a gimped character [grin].
It's amazing how we're both human beings with 99.999% of exactly the
same chromosomes and what not, yet we have almost completely opposite
likes. To me it's all about the trip and not the destination. I do
play MMORPGs, and normally I play it for the trip to max level, once I
reach max level I just quit the game as I don't really care about
getting a magic hat that adds 100 to dexterity and what not. I hated
it and actually left groups if we had to do some tough quest/mission
and someone invited 'their high level friend' to help.
But again, that's what makes us humans I guess
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I too agree everybody should be able to play the game as much as they want
their way. It's why I hate the save games that make you save at certain
points in the game. I believe everygame should have enough cheats built
into it so if you get stuck at a certain place you can keep going. I don't
know how many games I have over the years where I really wanted to finish
them but ran out of patience and got stuck. sometimes when I found the
solution I could kick myself and sometimes it was ridiculous. Why charge
people 50 bucks for a game though many cannot finish just because it is
either too difficult or they are dummies or not coordinated enough. There
are so many like that and it's very disheartening. Another thing is I wish
they would come out with these cheats or walkthroughs or whatever near game
release. often times by the time the the help comes out it is 6 months
later and you're already burned out.


"Marut Escabel" <tecknode.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcts.com> wrote in message
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> On 28 Jun 2006 16:11:30 -0700, allan_c_cybulskie.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>>
>> John Lewis wrote:
>> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:47:27 -0700, Marut Escabel
>> > <tecknode.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcts.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >OK, Titan Quest is out. At least at Amazon.
>> > >
>> > >Cheat list yet?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Excuse me, exactly why would you want such an item ?
>> > Assuming that you pay for the game, I cannot fathom your logic.
>> > Maybe you just collect games like butterflies, your only enjoyment
>> > being able to boast that you finished a game in a shorter time than
>> > anybody else ?
>>
>> Or, considering that this is an RPG group ... maybe he wants to go
>> through the story and be able to role play the game to the best of his
>> ability without having to worry about how he'd be gimping his character
>> for combat?
>>
>> Not everyone who uses cheats or makes the difficulty easier does it
>> only to get the enjoyment of finishing it faster, you know ...
>
> Thanks Allan, you're correct.
>
> Also, and this has been said many times in many ways, I play games my
> way and others play games their way. It's called freedom and how I
> play does not effect how others play.
>
>
> --
> ==== Tecknomage ====
> Morrowind & Oblivion
> Guild Master, Mages & Fighters Guild
> Captain of Blades
>
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bunboy wrote:
> I too agree everybody should be able to play the game as much as they
> want their way. It's why I hate the save games that make you save at
> certain points in the game. I believe everygame should have enough
> cheats built into it so if you get stuck at a certain place you can
> keep going.
<snip>

From what I've seen so far, anybody who needs cheats to get through Titan
Quest would need cheats to watch Spongebob Squarepants, too.
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Thus spake "chainbreaker" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.com>, Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:59:40
-0400, Anno Domini:

>bunboy wrote:
>> I too agree everybody should be able to play the game as much as they
>> want their way. It's why I hate the save games that make you save at
>> certain points in the game. I believe everygame should have enough
>> cheats built into it so if you get stuck at a certain place you can
>> keep going.
><snip>
>
>From what I've seen so far, anybody who needs cheats to get through Titan
>Quest would need cheats to watch Spongebob Squarepants, too.

ROFLMAO! (so you're playing on easy then? ;-p)

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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:51:33 +1000, Nostromo <nospam DeleteThis @forme.org> wrote:

>Thus spake "chainbreaker" <noone DeleteThis @nowhere.com>, Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:59:40
>-0400, Anno Domini:

>>From what I've seen so far, anybody who needs cheats to get through Titan
>>Quest would need cheats to watch Spongebob Squarepants, too.

I agree.

>ROFLMAO! (so you're playing on easy then? ;-p)

You have to finish it on easy before you get hard, you know. My copy
arrived yesterday, and so far I've only got as far as the Spartan camp.
The only noticeable difference(apart from the extra masteries) is that
all the prices have been hit by inflation.
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It is truly a difficult thing for people to understand that not everybody
things or acts the same way they do. It is a problem on a personal level or
diplomatic level or any level for that matter. When I was a practicing
trial lawyer I would often teach and give advice to other lawyers and one of
the main ones was spend your energy trying to think like the other side. we
know how you think and react. How many times have you read of an
experienced game developer talk about his game and say we had no idea the
gamers would do X or Y to our game After hours of testing we didn't even
know the game could do that.


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>
> John Lewis wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:47:27 -0700, Marut Escabel
>> <tecknode.RemoveThis@NOSPAMcts.com> wrote:
>>
>> >OK, Titan Quest is out. At least at Amazon.
>> >
>> >Cheat list yet?
>> >
>>
>> Excuse me, exactly why would you want such an item ?
>> Assuming that you pay for the game, I cannot fathom your logic.
>> Maybe you just collect games like butterflies, your only enjoyment
>> being able to boast that you finished a game in a shorter time than
>> anybody else ?
>
> Or, considering that this is an RPG group ... maybe he wants to go
> through the story and be able to role play the game to the best of his
> ability without having to worry about how he'd be gimping his character
> for combat?
>
> Not everyone who uses cheats or makes the difficulty easier does it
> only to get the enjoyment of finishing it faster, you know ...
>
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bunboy wrote:
> It is truly a difficult thing for people to understand that not
> everybody things or acts the same way they do. It is a problem on a
> personal level or diplomatic level or any level for that matter. When I
> was a practicing trial lawyer I would often teach and give
> advice to other lawyers and one of the main ones was spend your
> energy trying to think like the other side. we know how you think and
> react. How many times have you read of an experienced game developer
> talk about his game and say we had no idea the gamers would do X or
> Y to our game After hours of testing we didn't even know the game
> could do that.

Reminds me of a flight sim several years ago that had the devs taking flack
because some enterprising souls discovered that it was possible to
successfully land . . . upside down.

The devs take--well, who in their right mind would ever even think of such?
Hehe.

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"chainbreaker" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.com> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>bunboy wrote:
>> It is truly a difficult thing for people to understand that not
>> everybody things or acts the same way they do. It is a problem on a
>> personal level or diplomatic level or any level for that matter. When I
>> was a practicing trial lawyer I would often teach and give
>> advice to other lawyers and one of the main ones was spend your
>> energy trying to think like the other side. we know how you think and
>> react. How many times have you read of an experienced game developer
>> talk about his game and say we had no idea the gamers would do X or
>> Y to our game After hours of testing we didn't even know the game
>> could do that.
>
>Reminds me of a flight sim several years ago that had the devs taking flack
>because some enterprising souls discovered that it was possible to
>successfully land . . . upside down.
>
>The devs take--well, who in their right mind would ever even think of such?
>Hehe.

They damn well should have thought of it - anything but a wheels on the
runway _should_ have been a crash - maybe survivable, maybe not.

That's not a "who would have thought of that" thing - that's the most
basic thing about landing.

Xocyll
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