Theater_of_War_-_über_patch

On 29 jan, 11:27, von Schmidt <von_schm....RemoveThis@mail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 7:39 am, "eddyster...@hotmail.com"
>
> <eddyster....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> >http://www.battlefront.com/products/tow/patch.html
>
> > 1.2 Gig - I think that's a record for wargaming
>
> > Greetz,
>
> > Eddy Sterckx
>
> My whole DOS and win95/98 wargaming collection fits in under 1.2 Gb.
> How times change... etc etc
>
> I think this might actually be in the top 5 largest patches for *any*
> genre. Anyone know of bigger patches?

IIRC the patches and additional official map packs for Warhammer 40K
Dawn of War are of the same order.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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On 29 jan, 11:34, "Vincenzo Beretta" <reck... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I think this might actually be in the top 5 largest patches for
> > *any* genre. Anyone know of bigger patches?
>
> I remember the gargantuan 600+ MB patch 1.2 for Medieval II: Total War, but
> this one is beyond grasping.

The reason why is quite simple - it's compiled Java code morphed and
wrapped into a standalone runtime environment which has to be
redistributed with the patch.

> Well, in 2012 we will laugh about it "How times change etc..."

Yeah, by then we'll be laughing our lower backsides off because the
activation server will generate a 404 error

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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On 29 jan, 11:42, "Bloodstar" <george.washing... DeleteThis @microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I remember the gargantuan 600+ MB patch 1.2 for Medieval II: Total War,
> > but this one is beyond grasping.
>
> > Well, in 2012 we will laugh about it "How times change etc..."
>
> Well, you cannot say that those Russians are not commited to the game :>

Yup, now they're even committed to including building entry and
popping smoke ... in their next game ... for another $50

> Hmmmm, might try again ToW one of these days...

They've now promised a new demo - I'm sure to download it and give it
a go again.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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On Jan 29, 10:36 am, "eddyster...@hotmail.com"
<eddyster....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 jan, 11:27, von Schmidt <von_schm....TakeThisOut@mail.com> wrote:

> > I think this might actually be in the top 5 largest patches for *any*
> > genre. Anyone know of bigger patches?
>
> IIRC the patches and additional official map packs for Warhammer 40K
> Dawn of War are of the same order.
>
> Greetz,
>
> Eddy Sterckx- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

According to the Patches Scrolls, Dawn of War 1.41 weighs in at a mere
299Mb (http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dp.cgi?lang=eng&ref=ps&sys=pc&cap=w).
This might exclude the maps you mentioned, but I would not define a
map pack as a patch anyway.

The same site shows a handful of 2007 patches breaking the gigabyte
barrier, excluding a few updates which contain the MP server for the
title:

City Life upgrade to City Life 2008 [2.11GB]
Medal of Honor: Airborne version 1.2 [1.3GB]
Company of Heroes chinese version 2.101 [1.6GB]
Two Worlds russian service release 1.5 [1.1GB]

None in 2008 so far, apart from ToW, or in 2006.

Regards,

-von Schmidt
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On 29 jan, 12:38, von Schmidt <von_schm... DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote:

> According to the Patches Scrolls, Dawn of War 1.41 weighs in at a mere
> 299Mb (http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dp.cgi?lang=eng&ref=ps&sys=pc&cap=w).

> This might exclude the maps you mentioned, but I would not define a
> map pack as a patch anyway.

My bad - I simply recalled that my final download tally for that game
was huge - and patch 1.41 wasn't the last one as you need 2 additional
ones to get it up to 1.51

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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On Jan 29, 2:47 pm, "Bloodstar" <george.washing... RemoveThis @microsoft.com>
wrote:

> And we already had debate about Theatre of War. I admit that there are many
> issues in that game but Russian programmers are more capable than that guy
> who programmed Commander: Europe at War where bloody loading time takes
> forever. And you voted that game for the GOTY

Theatre of War english 1.10.0.81 [1.2GB]
Commander - Europe At War 1.04 (3152 Kb

Yeah, those Russians are really good, tight developers.

Regards,

-von Schmidt
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On 29 jan, 17:11, "Bloodstar" <george.washing....TakeThisOut@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Why? If we're using Battlefront's offerings as our examples, it's
> > apparent that developers publishing their own products leads to
> > *shitware*, not something worthwhile.
>
> The truth is in they Eye of The Beholder
>
> For example there are threads in Battlefront.com forums that goes like
> "Combat Mission: Shock Force, best wargame ever" and something like that.

Which got the reaction "Battlefront Posters Blow Beyond Legal Limit"
in the main Combat Mission forum *not* controlled by Battlefront

http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72525

I'll let the audience decide which "eye of the beholder" is most
likely to contain the truth in this matter.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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On 29 jan, 17:26, "Bloodstar" <george.washing....TakeThisOut@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> I have read numerous times when people were objecting something just to be
> silenced with lackeys and sycophants. So nothing new here.
>
> In that regard they are all pretty same.

Agreed. So basically it comes down to this :

If you want to know the truth about a game, go to the forums *not*
controlled by the owners of that game.

Applying the above : what are the posters in here, at SimHQ, at The
Wargamer and at GameSquad telling you about this game called ToW ?

Over at The Wargamer forums I'm busy arguing with one of the
developers of ToW, I guess he needs a bit of your help because he's
heavily outnumbered there versus lonely me and no moderator in sight.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx
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> I think this might actually be in the top 5 largest patches for
> *any* genre. Anyone know of bigger patches?

I remember the gargantuan 600+ MB patch 1.2 for Medieval II: Total War, but
this one is beyond grasping.

Well, in 2012 we will laugh about it "How times change etc..."
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> I remember the gargantuan 600+ MB patch 1.2 for Medieval II: Total War,
> but this one is beyond grasping.
>
> Well, in 2012 we will laugh about it "How times change etc..."

Well, you cannot say that those Russians are not commited to the game :>

Hmmmm, might try again ToW one of these days... First to brake Mongol
invasion in MTW 2 )
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>> Well, you cannot say that those Russians are not commited to the game :>
>
> Yup, now they're even committed to including building entry and
> popping smoke ... in their next game ... for another $50

Hmmm... I agree that game was somewhat unfinished but that is not sole case
here

And when we come to milking money from wargamers, Matrix Games is not virgin
there :> >You know that "powerhouse" that has not a one in house wargame
produced :>>>
With in house production I mean everything from start to finish, from design
document to finish. Hehe...

Back to milking franchise - Close Combat with it's zillion iterations of
same old same engine from 1998? Then TOAW that use same engine from 1998?
Then WiTP Commander Edition with same engine... Then... Yawn...


>> Hmmmm, might try again ToW one of these days...
>
> They've now promised a new demo - I'm sure to download it and give it
> a go again.






Mario
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> I mean, is there a single byte of the original game that remains? Or
> did they just start over?

I think that the DRM scheme was left untouched.
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Vincenzo Beretta wrote:
>> I mean, is there a single byte of the original game that remains?
>> Or did they just start over?
>
> I think that the DRM scheme was left untouched.
>

Coffee on the keyboard awarded for that one.
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