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vernimark

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Since: May 18, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement Archived from groups: rec>games>video>arcade>collecting (more info?)

Hi all, Is there a cross-reference list for vector cinematronics tues? In other words: i'd like to change my tube, do I need an original tube or some equivalent exists? THanks, Marco www.vernimark.com/arcade >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Rob Carroll

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:00 am
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Any 19" B&W tube should do.

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Taxman

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I don't think so. It is a Vector Monitor first off not just any B&W. Even so you can't just plug in a 19V200 or a G05, they are different. Someone use to talk about what it would take to make a conversion kit to adjust voltages. But as far as I know you are going to need on from another Cinematronics. - Dave >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Rob Carroll

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gee, I do think so, because I've done it. A tube doesn't care what's driving it. >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Rob Carroll

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Neck pinouts can be different, that is true. Not sure I've ever seen it, though... maybe once or twice on some really whacked out tubes. It's definitely the exception and not the rule. Good luck! Rob >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Taxman

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Sorry, first off I was thinking monitor not just tube. Even so I did not realize it was so flexible that the yoke can just be put on the back of any B&W tube. - Dave >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Rob Carroll

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It's OK. Just don't let it happen again. ;^P >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Matt Mac Donagh

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Rob is 100% right. There is NO difference between Raster and Vector tubes. There are different dot pitches and backside angles but thats the only difference as far as the tubes go. its the YOKE that makes a world of difference. "Rob Carroll" <robert.carroll30.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message news:1141826506.317150.17220@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Gee, I do think so, because I've done it. > > A tube doesn't care what's driving it. > >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Matt Mac Donagh

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

The same goes for color vectors. The only pisser is finding that oddball tube used on 6100's and GO8's (I think). There is a source that sells these new or rebuilt though. Matt "Taxman" <david.tkacs.DeleteThis@norwalkhealth.org> wrote in message news:1141829819.313594.172980@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Sorry, first off I was thinking monitor not just tube. Even so I did > not realize it was so flexible that the yoke can just be put on the > back of any B&W tube. > > - Dave > >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

vernimark

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It works! after two fireworks days now the monitor works!! now I've to troubleshoot the PCB. I can see scores but there are some wrong vectors. no starships and no coin detection... I checked the ROMs and are both ok, changed the 2101 on the PCB (thank you big dog ) ) about tube swap: I replaced my amplifone tube with an hantarex one. you have to correct strongly the pinchusion but it works... >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

vernimark

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I'm the shortest in the center I'm selling Buck Rogers, probably I'll exchange it with an Asteroids. I'm waiting for an answer... >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

Timothy Shiels

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Where does one find B&W tubes these days? Old 19" B&W TV's seem impossible to find in my area (Portland, Oregon), even at thrift stores... Timothy "Rob Carroll" <robert.carroll30.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message news:1141822827.544288.83650@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Any 19" B&W tube should do. > >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hi, Glad the 2101's helped you out. Mark Capps vernimark wrote: > It works! > after two fireworks days now the monitor works!! > > now I've to troubleshoot the PCB. > I can see scores but there are some wrong vectors. > no starships and no coin detection... > I checked the ROMs and are both ok, changed the 2101 on the PCB (thank > you big dog ) ) > > about tube swap: > I replaced my amplifone tube with an hantarex one. you have to correct > strongly the pinchusion but it works... > >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

vernimark

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

ok, restoration completed. tomorrow i'm posting new pitures... >> Stay informed about: TECH: cinematronics tube replacement

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