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Edward Conway

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 am
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The current version of Sangband comes with a (macro? key?) that lets you
rest fully (ie. the equivalent of shift-R shift-8 enter) by pressing the tab
key. This has saved a lot of extra keystrokes for me, and I was wondering-is
there a way to do the same in Vanilla, Zangband, Oangband, or any of the
other varients?

I really like the shortcut, especially since I often play mages and priests,
who need to rest more often for mana, and was curious if it can be used in
other -bands, or perhaps implemented?

-Ed Conway

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 am
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On 2006-03-01 06:46:03, "Edward Conway" <edwardconway.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The current version of Sangband comes with a (macro? key?) that lets you
> rest fully (ie. the equivalent of shift-R shift-8 enter) by pressing the tab
> key. This has saved a lot of extra keystrokes for me, and I was wondering-is
> there a way to do the same in Vanilla, Zangband, Oangband, or any of the
> other varients?
>
> I really like the shortcut, especially since I often play mages and priests,
> who need to rest more often for mana, and was curious if it can be used in
> other -bands, or perhaps implemented?

'x' does the same thing in O and it's subvariants (or subvariant...)

Nick.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 am
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In vanilla, hasn't shift-R done this for a while? It will rest until
either full health and full mana, or recall kicks in, or something
disturbs you, and seems to do nothing if you are already fully rested
without a recall pending.
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Pia Kraft

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:55 am
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Edward Conway wrote:

> The current version of Sangband comes with a (macro? key?) that lets you
> rest fully (ie. the equivalent of shift-R shift-8 enter) by pressing the
> tab key. This has saved a lot of extra keystrokes for me, and I was
> wondering-is there a way to do the same in Vanilla, Zangband, Oangband, or
> any of the other varients?
>
> I really like the shortcut, especially since I often play mages and
> priests, who need to rest more often for mana, and was curious if it can
> be used in other -bands, or perhaps implemented?
>
> -Ed Conway
Works with every variant. Just add a line to a pref file:
lib/pref/user-<os>.prf (i.e user-win.prf) or lib/pref/user.prf:

A:\e\e\eR&\n
P:\t
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Twisted

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:42 am
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Shift-8 on a bog-standard keyboard is (and always is, and was since the
C=64 if not earlier, even though the " was shift-2 in those days where
the @ is now) is *, not (. Either you're using non-standard hardware
(i.e. not a bog-standard dime-store QWERTY 101-key keyboard), or you're
using non-standard hardware (i.e. an MRI scan and neurological consult
is indicated).

My earlier post does contain a minor boo-boo; it's not just shift-R,
it's shift-R <enter> that does this in vanilla (3.0.4 anyway, the
version I have installed. What, it's not the latest? Hrm.)

(An earlier post by Timo seems to imply he does have, and knows he has,
a non-standard keyboard; it must be something really damned rare, given
that in all my decades (not years; decades) I have never, ever, ever,
ever seen a single one that had anything other than * above the 8...and
that includes old custom stuff, obscure terminals nobody uses anymore,
typewriters from before the information age, old Commodores, old Macs
with the built-in BW (not greyscale, actually 1 bit per pixel!)
monitor, Rainbow and VT100 and VT220 terms attached to VAXen, stuff
with the [d][i][g][i][t][a][l] logo on them that are now collector's
items that go for thousands on eBay, CP/M and old proprietary-Unix
boxen from before Linus Torvalds sat down to write his first line of C
code, and possibly even from before his mother sat down to write his
first line of genetic code, even keyboards with things like RUN/STOP
and LOGON and (unprintable symbol that resembles a highway interchange)
and numpad-= and even an honest-to-God REBOOT key, and even ancient
things with separate linefeed and CR (one moves down, one moves left
all the way; neither does both), keyboards with explicit Bell and
FORMFEED keys, keyboards with keys labeled things like DEBUG and QUIT,
keyboards with no numpad, keyboards with eight arrow keys, keyboards
with several hundred or fewer than 50 keys,
keyboards...keyboards...keyboards...<error: out of memory. error:
filesystem /dev/brain full. error: age-related kernel panic. please
reboot user.>)
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Edward Conway

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 am
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> 'x' does the same thing in O and it's subvariants (or subvariant...)
>
> Nick.
>

Ah, good. Thanks for the tip! Smile

-EC
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 am
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"Twisted" <twisted0n3.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141193204.361521.245290@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> In vanilla, hasn't shift-R done this for a while? It will rest until
> either full health and full mana, or recall kicks in, or something
> disturbs you, and seems to do nothing if you are already fully rested
> without a recall pending.
>

Actually, it's shift-R shift-8 enter, which is why I asked- Tab is a lot
easier to hit as a quick key Smile

-EC
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 am
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> Works with every variant. Just add a line to a pref file:
> lib/pref/user-<os>.prf (i.e user-win.prf) or lib/pref/user.prf:
>
> A:\e\e\eR&\n
> P:\t

Interesting...thanks for sharing that-I'll have to try it out now.

-EC
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Timo_Pietilä

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:55 am
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Edward Conway wrote:
> "Twisted" <twisted0n3 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1141193204.361521.245290@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> In vanilla, hasn't shift-R done this for a while? It will rest until
>> either full health and full mana, or recall kicks in, or something
>> disturbs you, and seems to do nothing if you are already fully rested
>> without a recall pending.
>>
>
> Actually, it's shift-R shift-8 enter, which is why I asked- Tab is a lot
> easier to hit as a quick key Smile

In vanilla that shift-R just rests fully. It rests until your HP *and*
mana are in max and/or something you have waited has happened or you get
disturbed. R&/r in macro should do that. R*/r does something else.

In S it probably is something different if you have to press shift-8
(what's that in your keyboard?).

Timo Pietilä
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:55 am
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> In S it probably is something different if you have to press shift-8
> (what's that in your keyboard?).
>
> Timo Pietilä

It's tab in S. Hence the thread-title Wink

-EC
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:55 am
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Edward Conway wrote:
>> In S it probably is something different if you have to press shift-8
>> (what's that in your keyboard?).
>
> It's tab in S. Hence the thread-title Wink

You get tab by pressing shift-8? in my keyboard I have "(" in shift-8.

just FYI
For pref-files \t is tab, \r is return, \n is spacebar, \e is esc.

Timo Pietilä
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:55 am
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"Twisted" <twisted0n3 RemoveThis @gmail.com> schrieb...

> Shift-8 on a bog-standard keyboard is (and always is, and was since the
> C=64 if not earlier, even though the " was shift-2 in those days where
> the @ is now) is *, not (.

I don't know the bog-standard, but on my keyboard, it's ( too.

Althoug my keyboard surely isn't bog-standard, since it needs to have
the german umlaut keys äöüÄÖÜß.

So telling the world that you have to hit Shift-8 doesn't tell me much.
It's like telling you that you need to press AltGr-7 to inscribe someting
(which is the way you get { on german keyboards)

> it must be something really damned rare, given
> that in all my decades (not years; decades) I have never, ever, ever,
> ever seen a single one that had anything other than * above the 8...

Maybe you ever ever ever ever used american keyboards?

Werner.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:55 am
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Twisted wrote:
> Shift-8 on a bog-standard keyboard is (and always is, and was since the
> C=64 if not earlier, even though the " was shift-2 in those days where
> the @ is now) is *, not (. Either you're using non-standard hardware
> (i.e. not a bog-standard dime-store QWERTY 101-key keyboard), or you're
> using non-standard hardware (i.e. an MRI scan and neurological consult
> is indicated).

There are other languages and keyboards around. The "bog-standard" you
mean is only to around 10% of world population.

Timo Pietilä
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:55 pm
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I don't think you've got the simple answer yet -- at least how I do it.

Go to macros ('@', generally) and add a keymap

When asked for key, press tab(or whatever key you want, I use 'x').
Then type R&\n and press return. Finally, append the keymap to the
appropriate preferences file.

I imagine the other ways work, but here's one if the others fail.

Joshua

Edward Conway wrote:

> The current version of Sangband comes with a (macro? key?) that lets you
> rest fully (ie. the equivalent of shift-R shift-8 enter) by pressing the tab
> key. This has saved a lot of extra keystrokes for me, and I was wondering-is
> there a way to do the same in Vanilla, Zangband, Oangband, or any of the
> other varients?
>
> I really like the shortcut, especially since I often play mages and priests,
> who need to rest more often for mana, and was curious if it can be used in
> other -bands, or perhaps implemented?
>
> -Ed Conway
>
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:43 pm
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camlost wrote:
> Go to macros ('@', generally) and add a keymap

Not without free action, resist sound, and resist confusion. Unless
dying paralyzed, stunned, and confused is something you enjoy, of
course. Smile
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