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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:18 am
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I was shocked when I check the price they asked for a virtual item in one of
the game I currently playing. It's Risk Your Life 2 hosted in Malaysia...
The game is Free to Play, and they have something called "Avenger Items",
which is essentially uber stats weapons/armors/shields in game. I am at
level 60++ and is already able to equip the best sword they offer (i.e. The
items they offer is just mid-game level, not the final equipments - I am
assuming the game have a maximum level of 99 or 100 - judging from the
content and the highest level players in ranking), so I checked out the
price they asked for. It's ain't easy to find but I managed to dit that info
out from their badly designed/maintained website.
Each item is priced at 6000 rp (resource point), and since this game was
converted from Pay to Play to Free to Pay, they accept month card as a way
to exchange for the so called Resource Point. 1 month card can be exchanged
for 1500 rp. So to get one uber (but not TOP grade, since the item offerd
are just A grade, but the top grade could be AAAAA grade, yes 5 A's)
mid-level item, I'll have to buy 4 month cards at RM38 (approx. $10 USD)
each.
So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber (but
not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
What I noticed, quite a lot of non-Malaysian players did buy the itmes, but
not to use them as equipment, but as a sacrifice for upgrading thier items
(The game allow of upgrading equipments via combining 2 equipments of same
type, same grade, taking the value of the sacrifice item add to the value of
the original item). I doubt many Malaysians would be buying these items
since 4x RM38 = RM152 is a pretty big sum, given the average monthly salary
of most youngsters (gamers) here ranging from RM600 to RM800. (approx. $158
to $210 USD).
These companies are really going money crazy.....
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:18 am
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Master Baiter wrote:
> So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber
> (but not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
Never.
Period.
And if that was the only way to get items needed to become/remain a viable
player, I'd never start to begin with or quit pronto if I was already
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:18 am
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:18:47 +0800, "Master Baiter" <master.DeleteThis@baiter.org>
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>So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber (but
>not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
That's a pretty insane price, IMO. When you consider that that's a
brand new game, or roughly 3 full months of gametime for any other
MMORPG, $40 for a single item is... Well, insane.
Personally, I don't have a significant problem with buying/selling
items in MMORPGs, especially when you're talking about a free-to-pay
MMORPG where they need to make their money somehow. My own thought
would be that I consider $15-$20/month about the right price for a
game (though, of course, that's assuming its a fun game that I want to
play  ) The question then is how much 'entertainment value' would I
get from a sword: the answer is 'probably not a whole lot'. Even if
I would use it for a few months, the sword itself wouldn't
particularly give me entertainment for more than a short time. For
one thing, you'd still need weapons and armor. For another, I
consider finding new equipment via gameplay to be a rather important
element of the fun I have in a game. I MIGHT pay about $5 for a
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:18 am
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Nostromo wrote:
> Whatchu playin these days matey? I just picked up Demon Stone from a
> liquidation sale at a games store for AU$5 which I think is a bargain
> even if I only play it for an hour Also have Dreamfall waiting for
> me & HL2:Ep1 + Rise of Legends AND Spellforce 2 while I eye off Titan
> Quest *huge Shrek sigh*. I should make my sig "So many games, so
> little time..." :-/
Was highly involved in CoV still, until my latest joint replacement round,
this time a left shoulder. I've only managed a couple of hours since the
surgery, the constant need for left arm/wrist/hand involvement being a bit
more than I'm up to so far. I expect to pick it up again in at least a
couple of weeks or less, though.
In the meantime I picked up Titan Quest, which can mostly be done with the
mouse hand. It stands to become an enormous time sink--not quite up to the
standards of *that* particular time sink, I don't believe, but the closest
thing yet, I'm thinking, after no more time with it than I've had.
And I want to continue with Spellforce 2, as well, although I haven't
touched it in 4-5 weeks.
BTW, it's been getting close to 3 months since I've touched D2 and I have no
desire whatever to even renew my characters/accounts, even. After 6+ years
it might finally be over. ( (or however you'd show happy/sad together)
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:15 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:28 am
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I dropped out of UO for a year or so and then decided to go back. I'd
given my house away to a friend, so I went to ebay and for $15 I got a
placed house and several chests full of reagents. This allowed me to
jump right back in and get into the game without having to scramble for
resources and the amount of money was trivial (I can't even get myself
and the wife into a movie for that).
That said, I wouldn't go out and buy items for my WoW characters. I've
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:26 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:08 pm
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Master Baiter wrote:
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> So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber (but
> not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
>
The world is filled with fools who are ripe for the plucking. Sounds
like a new way to pluck. WISH I'D THOUGHT OF IT.
To answer your question how much real money would I pay for a virtual
ITEM? ZERO, NADDA, KEIN GELD, NOT ONE RED CENT! >> Stay informed about: Survay: How much would you pay for virtual items in MMORPGs? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:57 pm
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On 1 Jul 2006 11:28:13 -0700, "Alex Mars" <Soulclaw DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>I dropped out of UO for a year or so and then decided to go back. I'd
>given my house away to a friend, so I went to ebay and for $15 I got a
>placed house and several chests full of reagents. This allowed me to
>jump right back in and get into the game without having to scramble for
>resources and the amount of money was trivial (I can't even get myself
>and the wife into a movie for that).
Yep, that's what I would consider a pretty good example of a good
reason to buy virtual items.
>That said, I wouldn't go out and buy items for my WoW characters. I've
>never been felt that I needed any item that badly.
One item that I was tempted to buy for myself in WoW was some gold to
get my level 60 epic mount. Saving up 1000 gold was more than a
little annoying. If it would have been cheaper I probably would have,
but it was just a bit outside my budget. Other than that, though, I
don't think there's anything in WoW that I would consider buying
(although with the game's bind-on-pickup that makes 99% of the game's
high-end items unbuyable anyway, there's not that much to choose from
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:02 am
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Master Baiter wrote:
> I was shocked when I check the price they asked for a virtual item in one of
> the game I currently playing. It's Risk Your Life 2 hosted in Malaysia...
> The game is Free to Play, and they have something called "Avenger Items",
> which is essentially uber stats weapons/armors/shields in game. I am at
> level 60++ and is already able to equip the best sword they offer (i.e. The
> items they offer is just mid-game level, not the final equipments - I am
> assuming the game have a maximum level of 99 or 100 - judging from the
> content and the highest level players in ranking), so I checked out the
> price they asked for. It's ain't easy to find but I managed to dit that info
> out from their badly designed/maintained website.
>
> Each item is priced at 6000 rp (resource point), and since this game was
> converted from Pay to Play to Free to Pay, they accept month card as a way
> to exchange for the so called Resource Point. 1 month card can be exchanged
> for 1500 rp. So to get one uber (but not TOP grade, since the item offerd
> are just A grade, but the top grade could be AAAAA grade, yes 5 A's)
> mid-level item, I'll have to buy 4 month cards at RM38 (approx. $10 USD)
> each.
>
> So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber (but
> not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
>
> What I noticed, quite a lot of non-Malaysian players did buy the itmes, but
> not to use them as equipment, but as a sacrifice for upgrading thier items
> (The game allow of upgrading equipments via combining 2 equipments of same
> type, same grade, taking the value of the sacrifice item add to the value of
> the original item). I doubt many Malaysians would be buying these items
> since 4x RM38 = RM152 is a pretty big sum, given the average monthly salary
> of most youngsters (gamers) here ranging from RM600 to RM800. (approx. $158
> to $210 USD).
>
Nothing in my case. I would never pay real $ to buy stuff in a game
I'm already paying a monthly fee for. Now, if the game is free then I
might do it, considering I would be paying $15/month in another game,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:41 am
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Jim Vieira wrote:
> It's the same thing in Diablo II. After having done ALL the quests
> in the game, a DOZEN times or more.. if I make a new char anymore
> I would gladly and hastily rush him into hell mode and start Baal
> running for levels rather than tediously slog through the desert and
> jungle areas AGAIN.
I would, too, and I've always said there should be an option to start a
character in Hell mode at level 65--there is an option to skip to level 30
in SP I think, but I've never used it since I never played D2 SP.
OTOH, an experienced D2 player can get a character through to Hell
"normally" in just a few hours, and I'd imagine similar time reductions for
such advancements in other games, too. And that's what I generally did,
since the few characters I did "rush" somehow never seemed quite "real" to
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:34 pm
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:07:07 -0400, "chainbreaker" <noone.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Master Baiter wrote:
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>> So I'm curious, will any of you guys willing to buy a mid-level uber
>> (but not ultimate) item for $40 USD?
>
>Never.
>
>Period.
>
>And if that was the only way to get items needed to become/remain a viable
>player, I'd never start to begin with or quit pronto if I was already
>playing once it became evident that's what it took.
At one point Everquest had a real economy larger than that of many countries,
easily in the top 20; just on the creation and sale of virtual items.
But that isn't surprising, money has no intrinsic value; it's only worth what
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:32 pm
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In article <BWDpg.902$Zo4.362@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
WhiplashrAT.TakeThisOut@wiDOT.rrDOT.com says...
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> I don't mind paying someone some gold to get me safely and
> quickly to another town or through an early mission. The real,
> interesting content of the game takes place after you've long since
> hit level 20 and are in the elite areas. I don't see any reason to fight
> my way through the Northern Shiverpeaks or the Maguuma Jungle
> for the 5th straight time, and I don't care if people think less of me
> for taking that route.
>
I hear what you are saying, and yet, and yet. For me, it's a role playing game,
and the fun is in building the character and working them through the game; not
in rushing to the end, power levelling, and [whatever]. That just isn't any fun
for me at all. None. Your mileage varies, obviously, and that is cool.
But hell, in GW you don't even have to take that route to get to a PVP char,
you already start out at lvl 20 if PvP is what you are after.
Thing is, Jim, I've seen a lot of people in the Crystal Desert who just plain
can't play the damn game. That's who my babyfood comment was aimed at. I've
also seen people there ascending with lvl 15 chars who are obviously
experienced players like yourself. Apologies if I inadvertantly trod on any
toes; as I said, I can see what you are doing, even if it wouldn't work for me.
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Peter Huebner <no.one.RemoveThis@this.address> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>In article <BWDpg.902$Zo4.362@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
>WhiplashrAT@wiDOT.rrDOT.com says...
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>> I don't mind paying someone some gold to get me safely and
>> quickly to another town or through an early mission. The real,
>> interesting content of the game takes place after you've long since
>> hit level 20 and are in the elite areas. I don't see any reason to fight
>> my way through the Northern Shiverpeaks or the Maguuma Jungle
>> for the 5th straight time, and I don't care if people think less of me
>> for taking that route.
>>
>
>I hear what you are saying, and yet, and yet. For me, it's a role playing game,
>and the fun is in building the character and working them through the game; not
>in rushing to the end, power levelling, and [whatever]. That just isn't any fun
>for me at all. None. Your mileage varies, obviously, and that is cool.
I've run several characters through the whole game (or mostly) before
deleting them to make room for another.
But the journey is the fun, not the destination doesn't work for
everyone - and a lot of players only want to have a level 20 because all
their friends do - the same reason they'll farm for months to get that
rare item and/or enough gold to buy the 15k armors.
>But hell, in GW you don't even have to take that route to get to a PVP char,
>you already start out at lvl 20 if PvP is what you are after.
Well, sort of.
You only get access to the good abilities on that pure-pvp character
that you've unlocked on other characters in the PVE campaign(s).
Without those they aren't likely to be more than a punching bag in pvp
for those players that do have them.
>Thing is, Jim, I've seen a lot of people in the Crystal Desert who just plain
>can't play the damn game. That's who my babyfood comment was aimed at. I've
>also seen people there ascending with lvl 15 chars who are obviously
>experienced players like yourself. Apologies if I inadvertantly trod on any
>toes; as I said, I can see what you are doing, even if it wouldn't work for me.
I remember seeing a guy in the Crystal Desert like that - turns out his
son had the character run ahead, so "Dad" missed out on all the learning
on the way.
Xocyll
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Thus spake "chainbreaker" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.com>, Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:15:00
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>Nostromo wrote:
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>> Whatchu playin these days matey? I just picked up Demon Stone from a
>> liquidation sale at a games store for AU$5 which I think is a bargain
>> even if I only play it for an hour Also have Dreamfall waiting for
>> me & HL2:Ep1 + Rise of Legends AND Spellforce 2 while I eye off Titan
>> Quest *huge Shrek sigh*. I should make my sig "So many games, so
>> little time..." :-/
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>Was highly involved in CoV still, until my latest joint replacement round,
>this time a left shoulder. I've only managed a couple of hours since the
>surgery, the constant need for left arm/wrist/hand involvement being a bit
>more than I'm up to so far. I expect to pick it up again in at least a
>couple of weeks or less, though.
Dang...almost forgot about your bionic-man stuff. Hope the shoulder gets
better quickly for ya.
>In the meantime I picked up Titan Quest, which can mostly be done with the
>mouse hand. It stands to become an enormous time sink--not quite up to the
>standards of *that* particular time sink, I don't believe, but the closest
>thing yet, I'm thinking, after no more time with it than I've had.
Heh, now I'll have to go pick it up the moment it hits shelves in Aus.
>And I want to continue with Spellforce 2, as well, although I haven't
>touched it in 4-5 weeks.
>
>BTW, it's been getting close to 3 months since I've touched D2 and I have no
>desire whatever to even renew my characters/accounts, even. After 6+ years
>it might finally be over. ( (or however you'd show happy/sad together)
There goes Satan skating to work...
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