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Lord of Secrets

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:53 am
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This is a follow-up question to a previous topic regarding the Stuffy
Doll. Since Stuffy is indestructable what other options do I have to
get rid of Stuffy if my opponent controls one? Does Wrath of God,
Pentrach Paladin, Curse of Cabal...in short removal spells affect the
doll or not? I remember Zoe telling me the bounce spells help. (i.e.
put target creature or card on top or at the bottom of opponent's
library.) How about spells like Sudden Death? (Target creature gets
-4/-4 until end of turn.)

When my friend plays Stuffy Doll, I usually attach Faith's Fetters onto
it. Please post your ideas. I need help.

Just one last clarification. He usually combines Stuffy Doll with Jaya
Ballard's third ability. All creatures and players get 6 damage. Will
Stuffy Doll be affected by the 6 damage or will it just bounce on to me?

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David DeLaney

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:20 am
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On 16 Oct 2006 00:53:39 -0700, Lord of Secrets <bjorn.bork.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>This is a follow-up question to a previous topic regarding the Stuffy
>Doll. Since Stuffy is indestructable what other options do I have to
>get rid of Stuffy if my opponent controls one?

Anything that doesn't say to 'destroy' it. Note that lethal damage destroys
a creature, so that's out.

>Does Wrath of God,

Destroys. No.

>Pentrach Paladin,

No such card. ...Pentarch Paladin? Destroys. No.

>Curse of [the] Cabal

Makes players sacrifice. Yes, but you have no way to make opponent pick his
Stuffy Doll as one of the permanents to sacrifice, directly.

>...in short removal spells affect the doll or not?

Depends ENTIRELY on what the removal spell +does+. If it destroys, or deals
damage, then no. If it causes a sacrifice, moves it out of play, reduces its
toughness, turns it into a noncreature (only creatures can have damage dealt
to them), etc etc, then sure.

>How about spells like Sudden Death? (Target creature gets
>-4/-4 until end of turn.)

That's fine; a creature with toughness 0 or less is put straight into
owner's graveyard, no destroying involved.

>Just one last clarification. He usually combines Stuffy Doll with Jaya
>Ballard's third ability. All creatures and players get 6 damage. Will
>Stuffy Doll be affected by the 6 damage or will it just bounce on to me?

6 damage will be dealt to Stuffy Doll, which will trigger its ability,
dealing 6 _more_ to you (you will also have taken 6 directly from Jaya's
Inferno-substitute ability). Stuffy Doll cannot be _destroyed_ by lethal
damage ... so it will sit there as a 0/1 with 6 damage on it. If Humbled
at that point, or Sudden Spoiling hits its controller, it'll die like dog
because it will lose the "Stuffy Doll is indestructible" ability but the
6 damage will still be there on it.

Dave
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:55 pm
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In article <slrnej759f.lge.dbd.DeleteThis@gatekeeper.vic.com>, David DeLaney wrote:
>
>>Pentrach Paladin,
>
>No such card. ...Pentarch Paladin? Destroys. No.

The activated ability, correct. If I use the Stuffy Doll to block
the Paladin, the Paladin's flanking will kill it right nicely,
though.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:55 pm
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Chris Mattern <syscjm RemoveThis @sumire.eng.sun.com> wrote:
>In article <slrnej759f.lge.dbd RemoveThis @gatekeeper.vic.com>, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>Pentrach Paladin,
>>
>>No such card. ...Pentarch Paladin? Destroys. No.
>
>The activated ability, correct. If I use the Stuffy Doll to block
>the Paladin, the Paladin's flanking will kill it right nicely, though.

Right, and nice - but requires somehow jedi-mind-tricking you into blocking
with Stuffy Doll, since he's got that tap ability that you could use before
blockers were declared, making him unable to block. 3 to the head, ow, is
probably better once or twice than Stuffy-go-down-de-hole...

Dave
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:55 pm
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In article <slrnej7h6j.k70.dbd.DeleteThis@gatekeeper.vic.com>, David DeLaney wrote:
>Chris Mattern <syscjm.DeleteThis@sumire.eng.sun.com> wrote:
>>In article <slrnej759f.lge.dbd.DeleteThis@gatekeeper.vic.com>, David DeLaney wrote:
>>>>Pentrach Paladin,
>>>
>>>No such card. ...Pentarch Paladin? Destroys. No.
>>
>>The activated ability, correct. If I use the Stuffy Doll to block
>>the Paladin, the Paladin's flanking will kill it right nicely, though.
>
>Right, and nice - but requires somehow jedi-mind-tricking you into blocking
>with Stuffy Doll, since he's got that tap ability that you could use before
>blockers were declared, making him unable to block. 3 to the head, ow, is
>probably better once or twice than Stuffy-go-down-de-hole...
>
True. It *does* give you somebody to attack with, though, although that's
probably better achieved by simply playing something Stuffy can't block.

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