Strange idea: Direct-tivo --> SA Tivo --> TV

Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> Sure. The video from the DirecTV can be recorded by the S2DT. Just use
> manual record.
>
> If you'd hacked the DirecTivo you could use ftp to pull the recordings off
> it and transfer them to the S2DT over the network. But the hacks on the
> DirecTivo have to be peformed BEFORE you record anything. Otherwise the
> programs are encrypted to just that unit.
>
> <one RemoveThis @two.com> wrote in message
> news:4505q3hiqgjov77hshqdurf47nan45er1a@4ax.com...
> > I'm moving from D*tv to cable. But the cable guy isn't coming for
> > another week. So the Direct-tv is still hooked up. I have a standard
> > definition Direct-tivo that works fine. I also got one of those free
> > (with a year's commitment) Series 2 DT Tivos. Can I feed the video
> > from the Direct-tivo to the stand-alone Tivo, thence to the TV? I'm
> > anxious to try out the new gadget! tia

This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last time
I
checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change channels on
your DirecTivo.
-Bill
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> This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last time
> I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change channels on
> your DirecTivo.

Which is why I specifically stated manual record.
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In article <0LWdnZ5P0vkBvT7anZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d.RemoveThis@speakeasy.net>,
Bill Kearney <wkearney99.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Sure. The video from the DirecTV can be recorded by the S2DT. Just use
>manual record.
>
>If you'd hacked the DirecTivo you could use ftp to pull the recordings off
>it and transfer them to the S2DT over the network. But the hacks on the
>DirecTivo have to be peformed BEFORE you record anything. Otherwise the
>programs are encrypted to just that unit.

Of course, it is possible to unscramble existing recordings, it's just
a little more involved.

marcus hall
marcus.RemoveThis@tuells.org
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Bill Kearney wrote:
>
> > This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last time
> > I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change channels on
> > your DirecTivo.
>
> Which is why I specifically stated manual record.

I wasn't trying to contradict or minimize anything you said, just giving
the OP further information.

-Bill
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xeaglecrest DeleteThis @att.net wrote:
> Bill Kearney wrote:
>>
>>> This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last
>>> time
>>> I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change
>>> channels on your DirecTivo.
>>
>> Which is why I specifically stated manual record.
>
> I wasn't trying to contradict or minimize anything you said, just
> giving the OP further information.
>
> -Bill

Odd, since it works fine for me, and I don't have to use no steenking manual
record thing.. I use the IR blaster to send the remote codes from my s2dt to
the sat box... Maybe if you can't use a remote on your DTV thing, your
batteries may be dead....
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Peter Pan wrote:
>
> xeaglecrest RemoveThis @att.net wrote:
> > Bill Kearney wrote:
> >>
> >>> This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last
> >>> time
> >>> I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change
> >>> channels on your DirecTivo.
> >>
> >> Which is why I specifically stated manual record.
> >
> > I wasn't trying to contradict or minimize anything you said, just
> > giving the OP further information.
> >
> > -Bill
>
> Odd, since it works fine for me, and I don't have to use no steenking manual
> record thing.. I use the IR blaster to send the remote codes from my s2dt to
> the sat box... Maybe if you can't use a remote on your DTV thing, your
> batteries may be dead....

If I am not mistaken, we are not talking about controlling Satellite
boxes
but a DirecTivo. The OP wants to control a DirecTivo with a standalone
Tivo.

The last time I checked, no DirecTivo's are listed as an input device
when
you run the setup routine on a Dual Tuner Standalone Tivo. The reason
is
the DirecTivo is a separate recorder and not meant to be controlled by a
separate device.

Stop and think about it. If your DirecTivo is already recording two
programs, and your standalone asks it to change channels, it is just
going
to sit there with an on screen prompt asking if it is OK to stop the
recording and change the channels. Or worse yet, even if it was on the
correct channel, and your standalone was recording the show, the
DirecTivo
may change channels on it own to record something you requested or even
a
suggestion.
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xeaglecrest.DeleteThis@att.net wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>>
>> xeaglecrest.DeleteThis@att.net wrote:
>>> Bill Kearney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last
>>>>> time
>>>>> I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change
>>>>> channels on your DirecTivo.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why I specifically stated manual record.
>>>
>>> I wasn't trying to contradict or minimize anything you said, just
>>> giving the OP further information.
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>
>> Odd, since it works fine for me, and I don't have to use no
>> steenking manual record thing.. I use the IR blaster to send the
>> remote codes from my s2dt to the sat box... Maybe if you can't use a
>> remote on your DTV thing, your batteries may be dead....
>
> If I am not mistaken, we are not talking about controlling Satellite
> boxes
> but a DirecTivo. The OP wants to control a DirecTivo with a
> standalone Tivo.
>
> The last time I checked, no DirecTivo's are listed as an input device
> when
> you run the setup routine on a Dual Tuner Standalone Tivo. The reason
> is
> the DirecTivo is a separate recorder and not meant to be controlled
> by a separate device.
>
> Stop and think about it. If your DirecTivo is already recording two
> programs, and your standalone asks it to change channels, it is just
> going
> to sit there with an on screen prompt asking if it is OK to stop the
> recording and change the channels. Or worse yet, even if it was on
> the correct channel, and your standalone was recording the show, the
> DirecTivo
> may change channels on it own to record something you requested or
> even a
> suggestion.

Have suggestions turned off, have 6 tivo's (2 s2dt's (networked) and 4
regular (not networked), went a bit crazy bidding on ebay, and 2 other dvr's
(can record 12 things at once, have both a directivo and cable co dvr, both
controlled by the ir blasters from the two s2dt's, can record way more stuff
than I can watch, and with the writers strike there isn't much new
anyway.... don't need no steenking suggestions .. don't know if the
directivo can do it, but have the cable dvr records in HD, and lets me watch
another one live and send it (non hd) to the s2dt to record it... Basic
cable gives me channels up to 99 (at my sisters, she has cable, while I have
directv), so most of the stuff I can record off that and don't need the box
(digital cable or sat) for much of the stuff
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Peter Pan wrote:
>
> xeaglecrest DeleteThis @att.net wrote:
> > Peter Pan wrote:
> >>
> >> xeaglecrest DeleteThis @att.net wrote:
> >>> Bill Kearney wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This will work, but unless they have changed things since the last
> >>>>> time
> >>>>> I checked, your Series 2 DT Tivo will not automatically change
> >>>>> channels on your DirecTivo.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which is why I specifically stated manual record.
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't trying to contradict or minimize anything you said, just
> >>> giving the OP further information.
> >>>
> >>> -Bill
> >>
> >> Odd, since it works fine for me, and I don't have to use no
> >> steenking manual record thing.. I use the IR blaster to send the
> >> remote codes from my s2dt to the sat box... Maybe if you can't use a
> >> remote on your DTV thing, your batteries may be dead....
> >
> > If I am not mistaken, we are not talking about controlling Satellite
> > boxes
> > but a DirecTivo. The OP wants to control a DirecTivo with a
> > standalone Tivo.
> >
> > The last time I checked, no DirecTivo's are listed as an input device
> > when
> > you run the setup routine on a Dual Tuner Standalone Tivo. The reason
> > is
> > the DirecTivo is a separate recorder and not meant to be controlled
> > by a separate device.
> >
> > Stop and think about it. If your DirecTivo is already recording two
> > programs, and your standalone asks it to change channels, it is just
> > going
> > to sit there with an on screen prompt asking if it is OK to stop the
> > recording and change the channels. Or worse yet, even if it was on
> > the correct channel, and your standalone was recording the show, the
> > DirecTivo
> > may change channels on it own to record something you requested or
> > even a
> > suggestion.
>
> Have suggestions turned off, have 6 tivo's (2 s2dt's (networked) and 4
> regular (not networked), went a bit crazy bidding on ebay, and 2 other dvr's
> (can record 12 things at once, have both a directivo and cable co dvr, both
> controlled by the ir blasters from the two s2dt's, can record way more stuff
> than I can watch, and with the writers strike there isn't much new
> anyway.... don't need no steenking suggestions .. don't know if the
> directivo can do it, but have the cable dvr records in HD, and lets me watch
> another one live and send it (non hd) to the s2dt to record it... Basic
> cable gives me channels up to 99 (at my sisters, she has cable, while I have
> directv), so most of the stuff I can record off that and don't need the box
> (digital cable or sat) for much of the stuff

If you say you can control your DirecTivo with an ir blaster, they I
will not
argue with you. But why not just let the DirecTivo record its own
stuff?
That way you would not be going thru a Digital/Analogue/Digital
conversion and
the loss in video quality that occurs.
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xeaglecrest RemoveThis @att.net wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>>
>> Have suggestions turned off, have 6 tivo's (2 s2dt's (networked) and
>> 4 regular (not networked), went a bit crazy bidding on ebay, and 2
>> other dvr's (can record 12 things at once, have both a directivo and
>> cable co dvr, both controlled by the ir blasters from the two
>> s2dt's, can record way more stuff than I can watch, and with the
>> writers strike there isn't much new anyway.... don't need no
>> steenking suggestions .. don't know if the directivo can do it,
>> but have the cable dvr records in HD, and lets me watch another one
>> live and send it (non hd) to the s2dt to record it... Basic cable
>> gives me channels up to 99 (at my sisters, she has cable, while I
>> have directv), so most of the stuff I can record off that and don't
>> need the box (digital cable or sat) for much of the stuff
>
> If you say you can control your DirecTivo with an ir blaster, they I
> will not
> argue with you. But why not just let the DirecTivo record its own
> stuff?
> That way you would not be going thru a Digital/Analogue/Digital
> conversion and
> the loss in video quality that occurs.

Mainly cuz it's what I have (i am currently at my sisters, I have directv
and a few tivo's, and she has cable), while the tivos and usb things all get
guide data via the wireless network here (and the Directivo only gets guide
data from the sat) , I can only see/transfer stuff between the 2 s2dt's....
Anything recorded off HD channels comes up as "copy protected", and I can't
see the hd dvr's via the network either.

Not sure about the quality loss, I use the c connections (usually component,
but one composite), so not sure/have no idea if stuff gets converted when a
video signal is used instead of rf
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