Stopping by the Deadmines on a Sunday Evening (A Justus Jo..

Party (Llane server):
Zam - Warrior
Sisaldtoo (I think) - Hunter
Thalmagastor - Mage
Zentaurian - Priest
Honalaya - Druid friend and ally

An interesting night, it was fun. Comments follow.

Weekend:
I'm glad I had a chance on the weekend to do this. The trip also
showed me that any weeknight is likely a no-no to attempt a visit thru
an entire dungeon such as that one. Next up for me is the Stockades. I
need to grab more of the quests. I was about to walk in myself to get
the head of one of the inmates then noticed the "instance" portal
and turned around. I also have a Blackfathom Deep dungeon that I can do
in Ashenvale. Not sure what others in my Guild have for dugeons.

Experience:
Got very little XP for kills but got a lot of experience in the fine
art of running that place. Hope to have fun in other dungeons as well.

Quests:
Got the three highest, over 6000 XP. Hopefully everybody who needed red
silk bananas (sic) got them all. I am going to junk the two low quests
since the XP for them is very low and the items don't appear to add
much to the bankroll. Probably will not do much to add to reputation
either.

Hunter:
Of all the characters that I would have loved to play with there the
hunter by ald is top on my list. Of course I am being selfish in saying
that because I plan to have my Huntress Tazmaniaq there at some point
in time. Then again I am also being optimistic since after observing
ald play his hunter there I have an idea of the Hunter's part in the
mines.

Priest (or other healer):
Looks like a healer is a requirement in a place like that. If not
through the entire dungeon, at least in the tougher areas with the long
battles.

Death:
I thought I read where one can enter ones ghost thru the instance and
they will end up in the same instance as their corpse. Wow that would
be a long journey from the graveyard to the ship. Anyways death was a
almost non-existent for us there.

Treasue (Chests especially):
Ald probably didn't play enough D2 with me to know that I don't
make a habit of grabbing everything in sight. Still was good to get
more educated on this /roll for chest opening. In the past I have left
things in a chest that I expect others to have more use for and tell
them to go get what I left there. I thought they were like the boxes
and crates. At least now I know that I am not going to step on
anyone's toes in the future by inadvertently being ignorant of chest
rolling. As a note: I ran into foo at the ogre mound in Duskwood. There
was a chest. He said to go ahead (might have been referring to a
corpse) There was an awesome caster necklace, a BoP. Now that would
have been a waste for me to grab, especially considering that I am in
need of foo's abilities whenever we hook up.

Teamwork:
I loved it. Well it was just typical of us and what I have observed as
we progress through the game. Having played a lot of softball and flag
football over the years I can say with certainty that we were missing
nothing from that aspect. Now that I think about that freeze trap I was
prolly supposed to stay tanked at a distance and let the trap be there
in case the foe left me for the ranged attackers -my ignorance of that
trap. I don't recall my level 19 huntress having access to train for
that skill. Nice to learn these things as I go along.

Zam:
OH! OH! OH! He loved it. Please excuse the 3rd person. I guess that
means that I loved it. After reading the gamer mag I had the idea that
when the place got rough it would give me a chance to work on using Zam
the way I am supposed to. Overall I'd give myself a
passing mark. There were a few times on the first part of the ship and
near it where I was able to let Zam take a little pounding and just
take normal swings letting the rage build up to about 50 or 60 and then
start banging away with a swathe of Sunder Armors, Heroic Strikes and a
Hamstring and Thunder Claps.

The time when we got attacked by 6 or 7 shipmen was envigorating. I
only got a little bit fingerknotted - not too much but just enough to
fail to pick up that Zentaurian might have appreciated a Taunt on my
part to get his attacker off him.

I'm not too thrilled with how the end turned out but I think I know
what I could have done differently there. Three deaths at the end is
not my idea of a perfect night. Of course I had to deal with the damn
distraction of those three roll boxes in the middle of the screen. And
that in addition to the still existing inexperience that took hold of
me at that point. More of these great moments in WoW will hopefully
build a better database of information and solutions into my cranial
matter so the answers appear within my gray matter faster, especially
during the thick of things.

Wished I had a chance with the Druid to fight Cookie but having to get
by the mates on the other side of the boat and go fight in that other
area would have kept the kids up a lot later than the wife would have
allowed. So we just ran back down the planks, took a dive and swam to
the area where we could leave the instance.

So when do the Stockades get their ass kicked?

Hoping for a visit there this Saturday or Sunday night.

OH! OH! OH!

Orion

Orion Ryder wrote:
> Party (Llane server):
> Zam - Warrior
> Sisaldtoo (I think) - Hunter
> Thalmagastor - Mage
> Zentaurian - Priest
> Honalaya - Druid friend and ally
>
> An interesting night, it was fun. Comments follow.
>
> Weekend:
> I'm glad I had a chance on the weekend to do this. The trip also
> showed me that any weeknight is likely a no-no to attempt a visit thru
> an entire dungeon such as that one. Next up for me is the Stockades. I
> need to grab more of the quests. I was about to walk in myself to get
> the head of one of the inmates then noticed the "instance" portal
> and turned around. I also have a Blackfathom Deep dungeon that I can do
> in Ashenvale. Not sure what others in my Guild have for dugeons.

Others include (but not Limited to)

Wailing Caverns
Gnomeregan
Shadowfang Keep
Razorfen Downs
Razorfen Kraul
Scarlet Monastery (4? in 1)
Uldaman
Zul' Farrak (sp?)
Maraudon
Scholomance
Blackwing Lair
Blackrock Spire
Zul' Grub
Dire Maul
Molten Core
Anqiraj (Silithus?)
Naxx

any more anyone?

> Experience:
> Got very little XP for kills but got a lot of experience in the fine
> art of running that place. Hope to have fun in other dungeons as well.

Depends on your level and your teammates

>
> Quests:
> Got the three highest, over 6000 XP. Hopefully everybody who needed red
> silk bananas (sic) got them all. I am going to junk the two low quests
> since the XP for them is very low and the items don't appear to add
> much to the bankroll. Probably will not do much to add to reputation
> either.

Sometimes good sometimes not - off the wall drops can be wonderful
(I've gotten blue drops in Deadmines/VC)

> Hunter:
> Of all the characters that I would have loved to play with there the
> hunter by ald is top on my list. Of course I am being selfish in saying
> that because I plan to have my Huntress Tazmaniaq there at some point
> in time. Then again I am also being optimistic since after observing
> ald play his hunter there I have an idea of the Hunter's part in the
> mines.

Just don't do as I did and forget to put your pet on passive

> Priest (or other healer):
> Looks like a healer is a requirement in a place like that. If not
> through the entire dungeon, at least in the tougher areas with the long
> battles.

A good healer: Priest, Druid, Pally, is definitely needed

> Death:
> I thought I read where one can enter ones ghost thru the instance and
> they will end up in the same instance as their corpse. Wow that would
> be a long journey from the graveyard to the ship. Anyways death was a
> almost non-existent for us there.

Nope - you get back to instance from a corpse run and you rez at
entrance - not where your body is. If you get resurrected by
priest/druid/pally or soulstone, you go back to where your body is.
Corpse runs to entrance can &^% because a lot of times the mobs are
respawning or respawned by the time you get to Smite.


> Treasue (Chests especially):
> Ald probably didn't play enough D2 with me to know that I don't
> make a habit of grabbing everything in sight. Still was good to get
> more educated on this /roll for chest opening. In the past I have left
> things in a chest that I expect others to have more use for and tell
> them to go get what I left there. I thought they were like the boxes
> and crates. At least now I know that I am not going to step on
> anyone's toes in the future by inadvertently being ignorant of chest
> rolling. As a note: I ran into foo at the ogre mound in Duskwood. There
> was a chest. He said to go ahead (might have been referring to a
> corpse) There was an awesome caster necklace, a BoP. Now that would
> have been a waste for me to grab, especially considering that I am in
> need of foo's abilities whenever we hook up.

Yeah, I abide by that too - if I don't need it as much as another, even
if I won roll, I'll leave it. (I think this is why I get lower levels
asking me to wait and do XXX with them )

Get Informant/Echantrix/Auctioneer add on - you can balance what an
item is worth (vendor and auction) versus what new item is worth - just
better bag management.

> Teamwork:
> I loved it. Well it was just typical of us and what I have observed as
> we progress through the game. Having played a lot of softball and flag
> football over the years I can say with certainty that we were missing
> nothing from that aspect. Now that I think about that freeze trap I was
> prolly supposed to stay tanked at a distance and let the trap be there
> in case the foe left me for the ranged attackers -my ignorance of that
> trap. I don't recall my level 19 huntress having access to train for
> that skill. Nice to learn these things as I go along.

In instances TW is key - when you all plan together, stick to the
script, and put others before yourself, you'll get 1000% more fun out
of instances than otherwise.

> Zam:
> OH! OH! OH! He loved it. Please excuse the 3rd person. I guess that
> means that I loved it. After reading the gamer mag I had the idea that
> when the place got rough it would give me a chance to work on using Zam
> the way I am supposed to. Overall I'd give myself a
> passing mark. There were a few times on the first part of the ship and
> near it where I was able to let Zam take a little pounding and just
> take normal swings letting the rage build up to about 50 or 60 and then
> start banging away with a swathe of Sunder Armors, Heroic Strikes and a
> Hamstring and Thunder Claps.
>
> The time when we got attacked by 6 or 7 shipmen was envigorating. I
> only got a little bit fingerknotted - not too much but just enough to
> fail to pick up that Zentaurian might have appreciated a Taunt on my
> part to get his attacker off him.
>
> I'm not too thrilled with how the end turned out but I think I know
> what I could have done differently there. Three deaths at the end is
> not my idea of a perfect night. Of course I had to deal with the damn
> distraction of those three roll boxes in the middle of the screen.

There's usually a rule, NO combat looting wait till everything's dead.
That way everyone has both time to pass/greed/need and also everyone
has a clear screen to fight with. If people died from this then make
sure you play with no CL as a major rule. Death by mistake, bad. Death
by other people's ignorant/stupid move, far worse.

> And
> that in addition to the still existing inexperience that took hold of
> me at that point. More of these great moments in WoW will hopefully
> build a better database of information and solutions into my cranial
> matter so the answers appear within my gray matter faster, especially
> during the thick of things.

Yup, fingers flash, macros get used, habits get ingrained - priests get
love.

> Wished I had a chance with the Druid to fight Cookie but having to get
> by the mates on the other side of the boat and go fight in that other
> area would have kept the kids up a lot later than the wife would have
> allowed. So we just ran back down the planks, took a dive and swam to
> the area where we could leave the instance.
>
> So when do the Stockades get their ass kicked?

Be careful, best to go with someone who has already gone. Deadmines
allow for mistakes, Stockades is so small, really is no margin for
error aggro or loot wise.

> Hoping for a visit there this Saturday or Sunday night.
> OH! OH! OH!
> Orion

Good luck!
I've enjoyed a mix of grinding, quests and instances (and PVP for
trinkets) - most fun to kill for pleasure is the
"ARGLGLUHLUHLUHLUHLUHUA", Murlocs. Revenge always goes to stupid
wolves, of whatever kind: they pack (join each other), call each other,
and run away before they are dead, but you have 2 to 4 others wailing
on you. I'm thinking of calling for the extermination of all WoW wolf
species! If I see a wolf, any level, any experience, I'm killing it...
hate wolves. (non-pet of course)

"ROoOoOoOoOo!!!!." SIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZSWOOOPPPP.....BOOOM! "slammed you,
beyotch! hoot hoot hoot!"

Hamaka (Turalyon)