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Tom wrote:
> On Feb 20, 7:23 pm, Doug Jacobs <djac... RemoveThis @shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>
>
> You keep missing ther fact (I pointed this out in another post in thsi
> thread earlier to you) that PS3 software is selling hotter now than is
> the 360, so your point that it need to sell software (games) is a moot
> point. You make it sound as if the PS3 isn't selling any games or will
> at all. It seems that you ignore the numbers which can easily be
> checked out, or you have ulterior reasons for your thinking.

Um, Captain Duhh--He DOES have ulterior reasons:
He wants to feel as "smart" as he did when the War was on, which is
getting more and more plausibly difficult to do now that it isn't...

(Y'know how they used to write about those ex-Resistance fighters in
London and Paris during WWII, who they later discovered just couldn't
psychologically adjust to peacetime, now that there wasn't any
adrenaline rush anymore and all everyone else was just complaining about
was food shortages and not enough gasoline for those new cars they wanted?
Yeah--Kinda like that, only with the whole "Evil Sony conspiracy" thing,
while everyone else's wondering when Warner's going to give us Wizard of
Oz.)

Derek Janssen
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"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs.DeleteThis@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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> Sony clearly sacrificed their position at the top of the video game market
> to use the PS3 to push blu-ray. One can only hope that it was worth it in
> the long run, because right now, they stand to lose quite a bit in the
> video game market.
>
dude, the PS3 has 10+ mill sold in about ONE year, give or take as the
availability was staggered by territory...and the 360, with A FULL YEAR+
head start, NO competition, WORLDWIDE launch, TWICE as many 'GHEYMZ', AND a
MUCH lower initial entry price has sold ONLY 7 mill more units?!?!?!? a gap
which seems to be shrinking by the week?!?!?!? and you think the PS3 is
going to LOSE in the video game market?!?!?!? to the 360?!?!?!? the 360
hasn't even sold as many units as the ORIGINAL xbox, and appears to be
tapering off ALREADY due to ::cough:: 'supply constraints' ::cough::,
while the PS3 continues to gain momentum. make no mistake, the PS3 is just
now getting into 'kicking ass and taking names' mode, and the butt of jokes
for decades to come will be '3FixMe.'
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"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs.RemoveThis@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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> In alt.games.video.xbox Calab <myspam.RemoveThis@csd.ca> wrote:
>
> With the exception of blu-ray, the 360 can do all the same media tricks
> that the PS3 can do
>
the 360 has a web browser?

the 360 can fold?

the 360 can nearly instantaneously browse and playback media from a remote
PC?

the 360 supports industry standard memory cards?

the 360 has built in wi-fi?

the 360 has a remote play function?

the 360 has a free online service?

the 360 is near silent?

the 360 hardware doesn't fail at a ridiculous rate?
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khee mao wrote:
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> "Doug Jacobs" <djacobs DeleteThis @shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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>> In alt.games.video.xbox Calab <myspam DeleteThis @csd.ca> wrote:
>>
>> With the exception of blu-ray, the 360 can do all the same media tricks
>> that the PS3 can do
>>
> the 360 has a web browser?

You bought a video game console to go to yahoo.com?

> the 360 can fold?

You bought a video game console to fold?

> the 360 can nearly instantaneously browse and playback media from a
> remote PC?

Umm, yes it can. I watch movies remotely, view pictures remotely and
play music remotely. I'm not sure what you're referring to here. In
fact, unlike the PS3, the 360 can play music remotely WHILE playing a game.

> the 360 supports industry standard memory cards?

Why the hell would a system need to read memory cards. Again, did you
buy your video games console to look at pictures? I can understand that
Sony intended for the console to be your one-stop for all multimedia
needs but how exactly does this feature benefit in video games?

> the 360 has built in wi-fi?

The 360 could have used that but they have a good excuse: they didn't
know whether it made sense to include 802.11a and b when g was close to
becoming the default standard. I'm not sure whether I believe them but
either way, I prefer wired connections to anything wireless.

> the 360 has a remote play function?

Well if the 360 had a portable device other than the Zune and Windows CE
machines then it would have possibly considered it but it doesn't.
Either way, what the hell do you need that for?

> the 360 has a free online service?

Microsoft took the other path. Instead of delivering an atrocity that is
free, they decided to deliver a near-perfect online system that features
cross-game messaging/chat/video, a general friends list and a demo
system that allows you to play the game IMMEDIATELY after download
(instead of forcing you to install what you just downloaded like the
PS3). Besides, if you can't afford a few bucks per month then fanboyism
isn't your only problem.

> the 360 is near silent?

The 360 should have had this but to be honest, the original Xbox wasn't
very quiet either. It was one of the things that I despised about the
original and frankly, I was already accustoemd to it by the time I got
to the 360.

> the 360 hardware doesn't fail at a ridiculous rate?

Yep, every 360 dies the moment you open the box. That must be why I'm on
the same console for over a year now. I guess mine wasn't programmed to
die upon unsealing like every other one. Shame on Microsoft for being so
inconsistent.

I just have one question for you khee mao. See, I'm the type of guy who
goes from one game to another fairly quickly. Once I'm done with one, I
jump to the other and so on. That's why I have about 85 games on the 360
and another 44 on the console itself from XBLA. My question is: what
exactly do you play on your PS3? Are you still on Resistance or did you
move up to Call of Duty 4? I'm not even being sarcastic here. I ask my
PS3-owning students all the time and even they don't know. They all
think the PS3 is the best system but they all haven't touched it in a
while. I'm wondering about you because you seem to spend so much time
here that I am guessing gaming isn't your first preoccupation.

Every time I refresh the newsgroup, there's about 5 new posts from
you... I'll have to assume that you're using the PS3 to browse to Google
Groups and post to this newsgroup from there. After all, the PS3 has a
browser right?

Anyways, while you wait for the adventure in teenage emo angst that will
be Final Fantasy 13, I'll finish up Lost Odyssey.
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 khee mao <asdf.DeleteThis@asdf.asdf> wrote:

> "Doug Jacobs" <djacobs.DeleteThis@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
> news:13rp960q7gd3470@corp.supernews.com...
> > In alt.games.video.xbox Calab <myspam.DeleteThis@csd.ca> wrote:
> >
> > With the exception of blu-ray, the 360 can do all the same media tricks
> > that the PS3 can do
> >
> the 360 has a web browser?

That's not media. As for web browsing, I have my laptop, and in an
extreme pinch, I have my PSP. Why would I want to use my PS3 and tie up
the main TV in the house for something like browsing?

> the 360 can fold?

Again, not media. Furthermore, is this REALLY all that important a
feature to you or any PS3 owner? I mean, if the PS3 DIDN'T have this
feature, would it have made a difference in the sales? Anyways, if I want
to participate in this project, my desktop is much faster and uses less
energy than the PS3. After all, I'm not being paid to run my PS3 24x7 now
am I?

> the 360 can nearly instantaneously browse and playback media from a remote
> PC?

Um, yeah, it can. Neither console is perfect though since they don't
support as many formats as a true media player should.

> the 360 supports industry standard memory cards?

I have the 40GB PS3. It doesn't support memory cards of any sort since
they removed that functionality for cost-saving purposes. I can, however,
plug in a standard USB hard drive into either the 360 or the PS3 and read
media files off of that.

> the 360 has built in wi-fi?

No, and IMHO, doesn't need it. Built-in WiFi just makes the console more
expensive when not everyone is going to use it.

> the 360 has a remote play function?

Why exactly would I want to play a PS3 game, in lower resolution, on my
PSP which doesn't even have the correct number of sticks and buttons?

Also, is this really a deal-maker/breaker feature? I mean, how many
people are going to be in the stores looking at the 360 and saying "man,
this console sucks because I can't use remote play!"

> the 360 has a free online service?

Do you honestly think Sony could get away with charging for their online
service in the state it's in right now? Even as we speak, Sony is
hurriedly preparing HOME, which at best will be a "me too" answer to all
the features that the 360's online service has had since day one. If
anything, Sony's online service is still incomplete.

It may not be free, but I'd rather pay a bit of money for a superior
product than suffer through an incomplete one.

> the 360 is near silent?

> the 360 hardware doesn't fail at a ridiculous rate?

No arguments here. My 360 is quieter than some, but it's still noisier
than my PS3.

At least Microsoft has been taking action to fix this issue. As I recall,
both the Playstation 1 and 2 had their share of hardware problems...and
Sony's response was less than amicable. At least, I don't rmember Sony
extending the warranty on my PS2 to 3 years after it died of the DRE
problem.

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Doug Jacobs wrote:
> Do you honestly think Sony could get away with charging for their online
> service in the state it's in right now? Even as we speak, Sony is
> hurriedly preparing HOME, which at best will be a "me too" answer to all
> the features that the 360's online service has had since day one. If
> anything, Sony's online service is still incomplete.

Dung, Dung. You continue to expose what an ignorant nitwit you are
with your long, empty-headed, rambling monologues displaying your
supreme lack of knowing anything about what is going on. All the anti-
Ps3 blog sites are starting to gush and salivate over what Home is
providing and will be able to do. Resistance and Uncharted Home is
going to allow a PS3 gamer avatar to traverse through game levels and
Warhawk has a sandbox war room for players to plan and strategize
before joining on-line multiplayer. There are trophies and
accomplishments and much much more. A completely 3D and new game
interface experience and for no extra cost. Poor Dung, so out of it.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/29/sony-reveals-home-integration-for-re...tance-u

Sony reveals Home integration for Resistance, Uncharted, Warhawk
Feb 29th 2008 1:30PM

Worried that game integration with Playstation Home will just be
trophies, trailers and t-shirts? Well, so were we, actually. Luckily,
Kotaku's learned some interesting details about the Home integration
of Warhawk, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and Resistance: Fall of Man.
Turns out its way cooler than we thought.

Warhawk will reportedly allow up to eight players to meet in a "war
room" prior to a match, mapping out strategies on "sand table"
replicas of each level. Once they're ready to go, players can jump
right into an online Warhawk match from the Home interface. A nice
touch, indeed.

Resistance and Uncharted, meanwhile, will give Home users access to
full unpopulated levels from the games, allowing players to casually
walk through battlefields with their Home avatars. In addition to this
killer feature, Resistance will allow players to explore unseen
portions of the game, and locate radio transmissions that further
explain the storyline. Uncharted will feature a Contra-style 2D
shooter that launches from Home. Consider us floored. We can't wait to
see these features in action.
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Blig Merk <blig_murk.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dung, Dung. You continue to expose what an ignorant nitwit you are
> with your long, empty-headed, rambling monologues displaying your
> supreme lack of knowing anything about what is going on. All the anti-
> Ps3 blog sites are starting to gush and salivate over what Home is
> providing and will be able to do.

Really now? That's odd because all the stuff I've read basically says
they'll have to wait and see how well HOME is going to go over.

> Resistance and Uncharted Home is
> going to allow a PS3 gamer avatar to traverse through game levels and
> Warhawk has a sandbox war room for players to plan and strategize
> before joining on-line multiplayer.

That sounds useful if you're a fan of Warhawk. Too bad this didn't come
out earlier to allow other games the ability to use this feature as well.

However, if you don't play Warhawk, how is Home supposed to be anything
more than a poor remake of Second Life in which you now have to march your
avatar around, instead of just browsing items in a menu?

> There are trophies and
> accomplishments and much much more. A completely 3D and new game
> interface experience and for no extra cost. Poor Dung, so out of it.

I'll ask again. Do you seriously see ANYONE spending (real!) cash on
virtual accessories to decorate their online apartment when no one else is
going to be interested in ever viewing it? "My trophies - let me show them
to you" Um...no. Same goes for achievements. This isn't even that big
of a feature on the 360, yet Sony decided to "me-too!" it. TWO YEARS
LATER.

Home is little more than a 3d-avatar chat interface replacement for what
should be a menu system! Besides which, you can get those for free on the
PC! Sony is seriously deluded - or at least hyping the wrong features - if
they think that HOME is going to be anything OTHER than a joke.

Home should have been part of the PS3 from day one. What did Sony do
during all that time they were developing the PS3? They knew what Live
was, and what its features were. They knew that they needed a better
online system than the mess that was the PS2's system. Yet, what did they
release? The PS3 launched with basically the same lack of an online
system that the PS2 did. Even PS3 games had to drop their online support
because they couldn't afford to wait for Sony to get back to them about
what the online system was going to look like.

Sure, there will be a few minor features here and there that will help
distinguish Home from Live - like the integration with Warhawk or
Resistance - but it still remains to be seen how 3rd party developers will
use Home, if at all. So far, the only games that have mentioned these new
features have all be from Sony itself. I certainly hope that isn't the
case after Home comes out.

I've also yet to see anything mentioned by Sony or anyone else that makes
Home a compelling reason to choose the PS3 over the 360 for either online
gaming or marketplace interactions. The reality could be quite different,
and in a month or so I'll be eating crow. We'll just have to wait another
month or so and see.

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