Skinning 250: Herbalism 249

Fugwump wrote:
> > Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
> > myself as to who'd win.
> >
> > So what?
> >
> > Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
> > level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
> > of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
> > about 6 hours on Wednesday.
> >
> > Bit of an imbalance?
>
> Skinning is just easy to level up, not sure why! You can get to about 80-90
> skill just on level 5-6 boars. Herbalism seems easier to level up than
> mining (easy at start as smelting gives you skillups) but only if you have
> access to the higher level areas. At 36 or so you could head to Swamp of
> Sorrows and pick blindweed, I think this requires a skill of 235 which you
> can get in STV easily, but this relativly high level herb can take you all
> the way to 300 at a low level.

I took up mining and engineering at level 60 with my new mage. Huge
goldsink into getting 300 engineering. Finally got my mining up to 290.
But its been worth it. Stacks of Mithril regularly sell for 7G a stack.
(Which is all I farm these days)

Iron isnt selling at all, which is surprising. So I'm farming this to
death. Thinking once the war effort is over, Iron might be worth a bit
more.

Overall, Mining is the slowest I have ever had to level up. There just
seems more herbs around than veins. Also, I can't dump a heap of cash
on teh AH to level up.
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> Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
> myself as to who'd win.
>
> So what?
>
> Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
> level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
> of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
> about 6 hours on Wednesday.
>
> Bit of an imbalance?

Skinning is just easy to level up, not sure why! You can get to about 80-90
skill just on level 5-6 boars. Herbalism seems easier to level up than
mining (easy at start as smelting gives you skillups) but only if you have
access to the higher level areas. At 36 or so you could head to Swamp of
Sorrows and pick blindweed, I think this requires a skill of 235 which you
can get in STV easily, but this relativly high level herb can take you all
the way to 300 at a low level.
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"Noon" <noon DeleteThis @noon.non> wrote in message
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> Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
> myself as to who'd win.
>
> So what?
>
> Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
> level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
> of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
> about 6 hours on Wednesday.
>
> Bit of an imbalance?

Skinning will always level up faster and easier, if you have both. You
have to go look for weeds to pick, and you'll often miss them on
your radar if you aren't really paying attention. Beasts, on the other
hand, are literally everywhere, right in your way, begging to be killed
and skinned. Thousands of them, everywhere. Just doing many of the
quests means you'll be killing hundreds or thousands of skinnable
beasts as a matter of course. Once you get past the lower zones
where weeds are colorful and obvious, most of the higher ones are
usually camouflaged pretty deviously, and very hard to see even
when you're standing 2 feet away. In other words, skinning is easier
and more frequent than breathing in this game, and weed picking is
actually rather difficult and time-consuming in comparison, and re-
quires you to sidetrack from all other things for a goodly amount of
time if you want to level it up at a comparable pace.
-Marshall
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:50:57 GMT, Noon <noon DeleteThis @noon.non> wrote:

>Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
>myself as to who'd win.
>
>So what?
>
>Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
>level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
>of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
>about 6 hours on Wednesday.
>
>Bit of an imbalance?

Simpke enough, skinning is a potential skillup on every dead beast you
find/kill (don't even have to kill them yourself, just go somewhere where
other people are killing them for quests), while with herbs you have to
wander around for ages to find them. I got skinning 300 at lvl 42 I think;
never skinned a yellow mob after I was in my low teens, except for a dead
30-31 turtle I found in Hillsbrad when I was mid-20s (and most Alliance
don't go there that low; I was only there for a rogue quest)

It's just very very easy to skill up, which makes it great fun At least
until you find yourself needing to find large amounts of money at low
levels to pay for the next rank - I think I had to find 5g for artisan at
around level 30, which was fun when I didn't have very much cash at that
point!
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Catriona R ytrede sig i <ctl922d3dnk2jg0tliafgpmul55tnm47an RemoveThis @4ax.com> med
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>On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:50:57 GMT, Noon <noon RemoveThis @noon.non> wrote:
>
>>Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
>>myself as to who'd win.
>>
>>So what?
>>
>>Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
>>level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
>>of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
>>about 6 hours on Wednesday.
>>
>>Bit of an imbalance?
>
>Simpke enough, skinning is a potential skillup on every dead beast you
>find/kill (don't even have to kill them yourself, just go somewhere where
>other people are killing them for quests), while with herbs you have to
>wander around for ages to find them. I got skinning 300 at lvl 42 I think;
>never skinned a yellow mob after I was in my low teens, except for a dead
>30-31 turtle I found in Hillsbrad when I was mid-20s (and most Alliance
>don't go there that low; I was only there for a rogue quest)
>
>It's just very very easy to skill up, which makes it great fun At least
>until you find yourself needing to find large amounts of money at low
>levels to pay for the next rank - I think I had to find 5g for artisan at
>around level 30, which was fun when I didn't have very much cash at that
>point!

I find it a bit stupid to waist the money for becomming an artisan at
lvl 30. With 225 you can skin beasts up to lvl 45, so the money is
better saved for a mount. At lvl 35+ it's max an hour worth of grind to
get the 5g, and you still won't have any need for more than 5 levels.

It's a bit different with herbalism, here it's a really good idea to get
artisan as soon as you can, because the level of herbs found in the
areas suited for your level are often higher, since the areas tend to
have a 10-15 level range.
--
Allan Stig Kiilerich Frederiksen
"When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
-Myron Tribus
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:43:25 +0000, Catriona R
<catrionarNOSPAM.RemoveThis@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:50:57 GMT, Noon <noon.RemoveThis@noon.non> wrote:
>
>>Skinning beat Herbalism to 250. It was a sort of informal bet with
>>myself as to who'd win.
>>
>>So what?
>>
>>Well I've had Herbalism since day 1 - that's 13 WoW days ago (I'm
>>level 33). I took up Skinning the day before yesterday. I make most
>>of my money from Herbalism and I didn't favour Skinning except for
>>about 6 hours on Wednesday.
>>
>>Bit of an imbalance?
>
>Simpke enough, skinning is a potential skillup on every dead beast you
>find/kill (don't even have to kill them yourself, just go somewhere where
>other people are killing them for quests), while with herbs you have to
>wander around for ages to find them. I got skinning 300 at lvl 42 I think;
>never skinned a yellow mob after I was in my low teens, except for a dead
>30-31 turtle I found in Hillsbrad when I was mid-20s (and most Alliance
>don't go there that low; I was only there for a rogue quest)
>
>It's just very very easy to skill up, which makes it great fun At least
>until you find yourself needing to find large amounts of money at low
>levels to pay for the next rank - I think I had to find 5g for artisan at
>around level 30, which was fun when I didn't have very much cash at that
>point!

Well yes, that's my point really - why did they design it so that it
was much easier to skill up skinnning, than Herbalism? I very briefly
tried mining but that was even slower than Herbalism
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> I took up mining and engineering at level 60 with my new mage. Huge
> goldsink into getting 300 engineering. Finally got my mining up to 290.
> But its been worth it. Stacks of Mithril regularly sell for 7G a stack.
> (Which is all I farm these days)
>
> Iron isnt selling at all, which is surprising. So I'm farming this to
> death. Thinking once the war effort is over, Iron might be worth a bit
> more.
>
> Overall, Mining is the slowest I have ever had to level up. There just
> seems more herbs around than veins. Also, I can't dump a heap of cash

Lol thats strange, on my server iron sells well, I get 3.5g a stack + 1.4g
buyout on the stones. Yet I couldn't sell my mithril for 2g a stack, I
ended up selling it all for 1.5g a stack. I think thorium sells for about
6g a stack but haven't looked recently.

But in contrast I regularly sell goldthorn (a.k.a goldmine!) for 5g bid 6g
buyout and its always sold on buyout. I recently skilled up alchemy and
realised why it is so expensive, nearly every reciepe above 175 to 225 and
beyond uses it, luckily I had enough as I found loads in STV.

I couldn't find any mithril veins at all hardly in Tanaris, so I sticked to
arathi highlands and farmed iron and the occasional mithril node in the
caves mainly. Theres a route you can take around arathi thats great for
iron (with mount and lvl 60 to get past mobs), farming 3 caves and the iron
that spawns inbetween them.
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>> I took up mining and engineering at level 60 with my new mage. Huge
>> goldsink into getting 300 engineering. Finally got my mining up to 290.
>> But its been worth it. Stacks of Mithril regularly sell for 7G a stack.
>> (Which is all I farm these days)
>>
>> Iron isnt selling at all, which is surprising. So I'm farming this to
>> death. Thinking once the war effort is over, Iron might be worth a bit
>> more.
>>
>> Overall, Mining is the slowest I have ever had to level up. There just
>> seems more herbs around than veins. Also, I can't dump a heap of cash
>
> Lol thats strange, on my server iron sells well, I get 3.5g a stack + 1.4g
> buyout on the stones. Yet I couldn't sell my mithril for 2g a stack, I
> ended up selling it all for 1.5g a stack. I think thorium sells for about
> 6g a stack but haven't looked recently.

I just looked I could buy a stack of 20 thorium for 3.5g, thats low! I'm
going to reconsider choosing mining for a new alt now.
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"Conspiracy of Dunemaul (US)" <owenvdw DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
>Iron isnt selling at all, which is surprising. So I'm farming this to
>death. Thinking once the war effort is over, Iron might be worth a bit
>more.

Your war effort isn't over yet? I thought all the realms had done this by
now.

At least on Emerald Dream, Iron was a lot more valuable during the war
effort than without it. Unlike Mithril and Thorium, iron isn't used in any
endgame recipes, so it only has value to mid-level smiths and engineers.
And it's also very easy to find. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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In article <Qu6dnabgUvGPurjZRVnyuA DeleteThis @pipex.net>,
"Fugwump" <Fugwump DeleteThis @nospamgmail.com> wrote:

> I couldn't find any mithril veins at all hardly in Tanaris, so I sticked to
> arathi highlands and farmed iron and the occasional mithril node in the
> caves mainly. Theres a route you can take around arathi thats great for
> iron (with mount and lvl 60 to get past mobs), farming 3 caves and the iron
> that spawns inbetween them.

There's lots of mithril in Tanaris especially along the southern rim of
the hills, from the bugs in the SE to Uldum and beyond in the west, and
also among the rocky hills in the center and western parts of the zone.
Problem is, if someone else just did a farming tour, you'll see nothing.


Now that my mining warrior is lvl 55, I like to find the mithril in
higher level zones like Ungoro or Searing Gorge. It's fairly common,
and most other chars in the zone have moved on to thorium so the mithril
is left as scraps. Finding mithril in places like Tanaris and Arathi is
like trying to get the iron in Duskwood -- too much competition from
other chars whose tradeskills are well beyond their character level.
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In article <122g4o5q27lhtc4.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>,
pv+usenet@pobox.com (Paul Vader) wrote:

> "Conspiracy of Dunemaul (US)" <owenvdw.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> writes:
> >Iron isnt selling at all, which is surprising. So I'm farming this to
> >death. Thinking once the war effort is over, Iron might be worth a bit
> >more.
>
> Your war effort isn't over yet? I thought all the realms had done this by
> now.
>
> At least on Emerald Dream, Iron was a lot more valuable during the war
> effort than without it. Unlike Mithril and Thorium, iron isn't used in any
> endgame recipes, so it only has value to mid-level smiths and engineers.
> And it's also very easy to find. *

Noticed that myself. I'm about to dump my 15 stacks of iron bars into
Thorium Bros rep in the Searing Gorge, since I can't see any other use
for it now, with smithing > 250.
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