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Paula

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:31 pm
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I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
wasn't very good. Sad

Paula

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:51 am
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Paula wrote:
> I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
> it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
> wasn't very good. Sad
>
> Paula

I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
Dentist.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:44 pm
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Paula ??:
> I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
> it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
> wasn't very good. Sad
>
> Paula

Well, I couldn't say I really LIKED Silverfall. For game play style, I'd
say it falls in between Diablo2 and Divine Divinity, say at 75%, closer
to DD

D2 <-------*-->DD
^
I'd put it here

Sadly, the game is too linear and too short. The Original campaign has
no preplayability - all characters plays through the same story, the
same places, the same quest (I'd expect, playing as a goblin, I would
get some special quests in Cloudworks, the home of goblin slave
workers... but no). The only fun I had is item farming. I found a unique
rifle, the Astral Cannon and it's powerful enough to let me play through
the game till completion.

The Skill Master is a nice feature, where you can reclaim your stat
points and skill point any time you like to try out the other classes
(so there is really no point to play a human for ranger, then replay as
an elf as a mage and so on)

My only dis-satisfaction about this game is, they purposely made your
attack so slow, so that they can promote the use of "speed up" skill or
is it the other way round? They have to put in the "speed up" skills to
justify their slow action pace.

The game is clearly and badly rushed nearing the end game. When I
reached the final boss, the game just rushed my character up to the boss
at close range (disregarding that my character is actually a ranger with
a cannon), flashes a single sentace dialog (not even with voice-over)
and the battle begins. My skill, multi-arrows didn't help making the
final battle a grand battle - With about 4 slams of multi-arrows/shots,
the boss was lying on the ground, dead. The whole "final battle" ends in
less than 3 seconds.

Another sign of the rushed work shows in the area of side quest - after
Cloudworks, the third town, there are hardly any side quests. There are
also lots of large areas which is empty, in term of population (except
monsters) and activities - no quest related to these area, in fact, you
don't even have to travel there, they are just irrelevent to the game.
Big patches of un-used land.

No teleportation points between long (and believe me, some of the
journey to a quest target is really looooong - spanning 2-3 areas the
need loading) distance. Yeah sure, you can click on map to instantly
travel to areas on map, but you need to discover that point of interest
first, before you can insta-travel. To make it worst, some quest target
is just an NPC or a generic area where you are to retrieve some item -
these targets are never marked as a target for insta-travel. So if you
died during the quest battle or died before reaching a target point,
that will be a very looooong and boring (since you already cleared the
path, you have nothing to do but just walk toward your target point)
journey.

Also, the developers decided to pre assign the skills to the keys - this
make a very messy short-cut key layout. I must constantly travel my
fingers across the keyboard to use potions (which was compulsarily
assigned to keys 9 and 0) and swith between shooting stances (I could
choose between key 1 to 4, but there is still a distance between keys 4
ang 9) and go back to keys 5 to 8 to choose the skill I want to use. I
really wished the smart ass that forced the key pre assignment would
just wise up and let the player decide freely where he/she want the
short-cut assigned to - I usually like my potions at keys 1 and 2 (it's
a habit already) and the most frequently used skills at 3 and 4, so that
I could cover all the frequently used keys with 1 hand.

The skill tree (can I call it tree? It's just a streight line for crying
out loud) is very, very limited and linear. each skill tree (if you
could call it that) path has only 4 layers, with only 1 or may be 2
being active skill. Well at least that fits well with it's inconvinient
key assignemnt anyway. However this will mean you will have to stick to
one single skill, if you don't want to overload your fingers and caused
a cramp. I could imagine playing a mage could be very boring - either yu
play with only 1 magic skill or you'll have to do the octopus dance on
the keyboard.

Some of the skills are overly powerful, i.e. the multi-arrow/shot skill
could bring down any tough enemies, even the last boss in a few quick blast.

Hopefully they (or the fans) would come out with better mods (like NWN
or MW) to make this game more worth my money.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:14 pm
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chainbreaker wrote:
> Paula wrote:
>
>>I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
>>it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
>>wasn't very good. Sad
>>
>>Paula
>
>
> I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
> Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
> Dentist.
>

Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are some
people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and they like
it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or not.

Paula
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:25 pm
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"Paula" <pdwMT DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> chainbreaker wrote:
>> Paula wrote:
>>
>>>I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
>>>it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
>>>wasn't very good. Sad
>>>
>>>Paula
>>
>>
>> I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
>> Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
>> Dentist.
>>
>
> Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even responded
> about the game and neither response good. Sad There are some people on
> the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and they like it. I am
> just not sure whether to spend the money on it or not.
>
> Paula

Paula,

I have only played the Demo and felt is was a bit old style.

Would you allow me too suggest the Lords of the Ring online Beta that
started
today and will be good until the 23rd of April I believe.

http://www.lotro.com:80/openbeta/

drybones
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:56 am
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:14:44 -0500, Paula <pdwMT.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>chainbreaker wrote:
>> Paula wrote:
>>
>>>I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
>>>it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
>>>wasn't very good. Sad
>>>
>>>Paula
>>
>>
>> I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
>> Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
>> Dentist.
>>
>
>Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
>responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are some
>people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and they like
>it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or not.
>
> Paula

Five pages of discussion so far at Octopus Overlords:

http://www.octopusoverlords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=47852

-craig
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:32 am
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Paula wrote:
> Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
> responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are
> some people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and
> they like it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or
> not.
> Paula

If you're looking for an action RPG and haven't played Titan Quest, you
might consider giving it a go. It's slick, classy, and loads of fun.

--
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:01 pm
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chainbreaker wrote:
> Paula wrote:
>
>>Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
>>responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are
>>some people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and
>>they like it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or
>>not.
>>Paula
>
>
> If you're looking for an action RPG and haven't played Titan Quest, you
> might consider giving it a go. It's slick, classy, and loads of fun.
>
I actually played the Titan Quest demo and was not thrilled with it. I
actually downloaded the Silverfall demo twice and it took over eight
hours and both times when I tried to install it the files were corrupted
so I gave up on that. Maybe I should give Titan Quest another chance.
Thanks for the recommendation.

Paula
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:10 pm
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drybones wrote:

> "Paula" <pdwMT RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:460d7dd4$0$90262$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>
>>chainbreaker wrote:
>>
>>>Paula wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
>>>>it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
>>>>wasn't very good. Sad
>>>>
>>>>Paula
>>>
>>>
>>>I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
>>>Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
>>>Dentist.
>>>
>>
>>Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even responded
>>about the game and neither response good. Sad There are some people on
>>the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and they like it. I am
>>just not sure whether to spend the money on it or not.
>>
>>Paula
>
>
> Paula,
>
> I have only played the Demo and felt is was a bit old style.

What do you mean by old style? That actually sounds like a compliment
to a game to me. LOL I have heard Silverfall was similar to Divine
Divinity which is one of my favorite games. I'd love another game like
that.
>
> Would you allow me too suggest the Lords of the Ring online Beta that
> started
> today and will be good until the 23rd of April I believe.
>
> http://www.lotro.com:80/openbeta/
>
> drybones
>
>

Thank you for the suggestion. I might try it. It looks really good and
I love LOTR. I have only played one online game and that was WOW. My
nephew gave me one of his free passes and I played it for a couple of
weeks. It was fun but something about fact that every person in there
was doing the same quests I was doing took something away from it for me.

Paula
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:17 pm
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Craig wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:14:44 -0500, Paula <pdwMT DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>chainbreaker wrote:
>>
>>>Paula wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I want a new game and it's available. I want to know if anyone likes
>>>>it. I have seen very little discussion about it and what I have seen
>>>>wasn't very good. Sad
>>>>
>>>>Paula
>>>
>>>
>>>I began playing the demo thinking I'd found Madame Magic Fingers the
>>>Masseuse, and ended up with me realizing that I'd found Dr. Pain the
>>>Dentist.
>>>
>>
>>Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
>>responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are some
>>people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and they like
>>it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or not.
>>
>> Paula
>
>
> Five pages of discussion so far at Octopus Overlords:
>
> http://www.octopusoverlords.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=47852
>
> -craig

Thanks for that information. Looks like most people are liking it there.

Paula
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:56 pm
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Thus spake "chainbreaker" <noone RemoveThis @nowhere.com>, Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:32:59
-0400, Anno Domini:

>Paula wrote:
>> Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
>> responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are
>> some people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and
>> they like it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or
>> not.
>> Paula
>
>If you're looking for an action RPG and haven't played Titan Quest, you
>might consider giving it a go. It's slick, classy, and loads of fun.

Especially with the expansion, from what I've read here so far.

--
Well, as I hear it the RPG was only a genre because of the limitations
of technology at the time. RPGs were really trying to be FPSs all
along. "RPG - The Accidental Genre." - markB 24/3

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:56 am
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Paula ??:
> chainbreaker wrote:
>> Paula wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's a little disheartening that only two people have even
>>> responded about the game and neither response good. Sad There are
>>> some people on the Silverfall forum that say it's a good game and
>>> they like it. I am just not sure whether to spend the money on it or
>>> not.
>>> Paula
>>
>>
>> If you're looking for an action RPG and haven't played Titan Quest,
>> you might consider giving it a go. It's slick, classy, and loads of fun.
>>
> I actually played the Titan Quest demo and was not thrilled with it. I
> actually downloaded the Silverfall demo twice and it took over eight
> hours and both times when I tried to install it the files were corrupted
> so I gave up on that. Maybe I should give Titan Quest another chance.
> Thanks for the recommendation.
>
> Paula

Yeah, I'd recommend TQ+Immortal Throne over Silverfall as well, the end
game part of SF is really a huge let down, for me at least.

One thing though, I don't really dislike Silverfall, I just point out
it's short coming, so that you may want to avoid it if those are things
you don't want to tolerate.

If you could tolerate those flaws, and is a fan of item farming, you
could consider giving it a try if you are desperately looking for games
like D2 or DD or TQ style.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:02 am
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Master Baiter wrote:
> If you could tolerate those flaws, and is a fan of item farming, you
> could consider giving it a try if you are desperately looking for
> games like D2 or DD or TQ style.

I was a huge D2/LoD fan, and from what I could tell from the hours I put in
the Silverfall demo, its similarity to D2 is only superficial.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:47 pm
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chainbreaker wrote:

> Master Baiter wrote:
>
>>If you could tolerate those flaws, and is a fan of item farming, you
>>could consider giving it a try if you are desperately looking for
>>games like D2 or DD or TQ style.
>
>
> I was a huge D2/LoD fan, and from what I could tell from the hours I put in
> the Silverfall demo, its similarity to D2 is only superficial.
>

I didn't care for D2. I guess what got me so excited about Silverfall
was that it was compared to DD, which I loved. I still might give Titan
Quest a try but like I had said before I wasn't really impressed with
the demo but I didn't play it all the way through, just a little of it.
I might wait until the price goes down to get Silverfall. Or, just
wait until another really good game comes out, which just doesn't seem
to happen that often anymore (and I'm really picky about games.) I
still have NWN2, which I'm enjoying and might could play some mods after
the original campaign. Thanks for all the opinions and suggestions!!

Paula
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:00 pm
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Paula wrote:
> I didn't care for D2. I guess what got me so excited about Silverfall
> was that it was compared to DD, which I loved. I still might give
> Titan Quest a try but like I had said before I wasn't really
> impressed with the demo but I didn't play it all the way through,
> just a little of it. I might wait until the price goes down to get
> Silverfall. Or, just wait until another really good game comes out,
> which just doesn't seem to happen that often anymore (and I'm really
> picky about games.) I still have NWN2, which I'm enjoying and might
> could play some mods after the original campaign. Thanks for all the
> opinions and suggestions!!
> Paula

It's conceivable that you might like Dungeon Siege 2. It's not all that
much like DD either, but it's more like it than I thought what I played of
Silverfall was--and there's no question that DS2 is a *much* better game.
And if you enjoy NWN2 then you'll be used to handling a group like what's in
DS2, as well.

I played the Silverfall demo for around 12-16 hours, and quite honestly,
after that I relegated it to my POS category. I actually had it pegged in
about half that, but it's one of those kinds of games that continues for
some time to make you think "but it's *got* to be better than *this*". Smile
But evidently there are some people who like it, or claim to--whatever
cranks their tractors and I wish them the best.
--
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