Series 2 TIVO and Directv?

> Can a standard Series 2 40 hr tivo unit be used with directv ?
>
> I already have a directv TIVO in one room. In another I have a Directv
> receiver. A local store is selling their discontinued Series 2 standard
> TIVO units for free (after discount). So it would be nice to use it (may
be
> in series with the directv receiver?) in my second room if it would work.
> Would it?

From a technical standpoint, yes it'll work. You could use that standalone
Tivo to control the DirecTV receiver box. But you may not want to do this
as it'll cost you. DirecTV charges per receiver (regular or dvr) and then a
whole house charge for DVRs. That standalone Tivo won't be covered as part
of your DirecTV bill. You'd have to get a Tivo account. This on top of
your DirecTV bill. Not exactly a bargain.

Seek out another DirecTivo. Then you can network the two of them together
and move programs between them.

-Bill Kearney
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"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> writes:
>Seek out another DirecTivo. Then you can network the two of them together
>and move programs between them.

If you hack them...
This functionality doesn't happen out of the box.
But I love my networked HDVR2s.
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Thank you. I guess I'll pass on it.

Jeff

"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Can a standard Series 2 40 hr tivo unit be used with directv ?
>>
>> I already have a directv TIVO in one room. In another I have a Directv
>> receiver. A local store is selling their discontinued Series 2 standard
>> TIVO units for free (after discount). So it would be nice to use it (may
> be
>> in series with the directv receiver?) in my second room if it would work.
>> Would it?
>
> From a technical standpoint, yes it'll work. You could use that
> standalone
> Tivo to control the DirecTV receiver box. But you may not want to do this
> as it'll cost you. DirecTV charges per receiver (regular or dvr) and then
> a
> whole house charge for DVRs. That standalone Tivo won't be covered as
> part
> of your DirecTV bill. You'd have to get a Tivo account. This on top of
> your DirecTV bill. Not exactly a bargain.
>
> Seek out another DirecTivo. Then you can network the two of them together
> and move programs between them.
>
> -Bill Kearney
>
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"Doug McIntyre" <merlyn.RemoveThis@geeks.org> wrote in message
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> "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> writes:
>>Seek out another DirecTivo. Then you can network the two of them together
>>and move programs between them.
>
> If you hack them...
> This functionality doesn't happen out of the box.
> But I love my networked HDVR2s.
>
How does one network them?

Jeff
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> How does one network them?

Short answer, get an InstantCake CD from PTVnet and reload the software on
the drive. Then attach an ethernet cable between the two (usually into
whatever network you've already got setup) and that's it. Wireless can work
but it's *considerably* slower than using a wired connection.
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"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> How does one network them?
>
> Short answer, get an InstantCake CD from PTVnet and reload the software on
> the drive. Then attach an ethernet cable between the two (usually into
> whatever network you've already got setup) and that's it. Wireless can
> work
> but it's *considerably* slower than using a wired connection.

Thanks. That's a useful lead. I guess to use that CD I would have to remove
the hard drive and insert it into a PC. Would subsequent "software updates"
from DirecTV undo the setup?

Thanks.

Jeff
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Bill Kearney wrote:

>>How does one network them?
>
>
> Short answer, get an InstantCake CD from PTVnet and reload the software on
> the drive. Then attach an ethernet cable between the two (usually into
> whatever network you've already got setup) and that's it. Wireless can work
> but it's *considerably* slower than using a wired connection.
>
What about a hack that will allow moving video off a computer hard drive
to the tivo, like the tivo option that requires a paid subscription? I'd
like to use my Toshiba SD-H400 (free 3day subscription) as an tv
interface for a computer based DVR. I don't want it bad enough to pay
$13/mo for the priviledge (:->) but it would be nice to have since I've
run out of inputs to the TV.
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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks. That's a useful lead. I guess to use that CD I would have to remove
> the hard drive and insert it into a PC. Would subsequent "software updates"
> from DirecTV undo the setup?

Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda4 dsscon=true console=2,115200 upgradesoftware=false

That last bit prevents software updates from being applied automatically.
-Joe
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> What about a hack that will allow moving video off a computer hard drive
> to the tivo, like the tivo option that requires a paid subscription? I'd
> like to use my Toshiba SD-H400 (free 3day subscription) as an tv
> interface for a computer based DVR. I don't want it bad enough to pay
> $13/mo for the priviledge (:->) but it would be nice to have since I've
> run out of inputs to the TV.

Nope, if you want the service you pay for it, no way around it.
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> Thanks. That's a useful lead. I guess to use that CD I would have to
remove
> the hard drive and insert it into a PC. Would subsequent "software
updates"
> from DirecTV undo the setup?

Yes you need to remove the drive to do the update. It's worth the effort.
Yes, it can block software updates. But considering how infrequently
DirecTV allows updates that's not likely to be much of a problem. But it
can be configured to allow updates. The only downside being that you'd then
have to reapply the patches the upgrade CD makes for you automagically. Not
a big deal.
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"Charlie" <xalarmguy.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Bill Kearney wrote:
>
>>>How does one network them?
>>
>>
>> Short answer, get an InstantCake CD from PTVnet and reload the software
>> on
>> the drive. Then attach an ethernet cable between the two (usually into
>> whatever network you've already got setup) and that's it. Wireless can
>> work
>> but it's *considerably* slower than using a wired connection.
>>
> What about a hack that will allow moving video off a computer hard drive
> to the tivo, like the tivo option that requires a paid subscription? I'd
> like to use my Toshiba SD-H400 (free 3day subscription) as an tv interface
> for a computer based DVR. I don't want it bad enough to pay $13/mo for the
> priviledge (:->) but it would be nice to have since I've run out of inputs
> to the TV.

I've read about such a hack in the dealdatabase forums but last time I
checked (and it was a while ago), the guys who wrote it were being
elitists and wanted people to have to install Eclipse, check out the sources
from CVS, compile them and then figure out how to install the software.
Someone proposed building an installer and was smacked down. Maybe
by now there's something more widely available for those of us who
don't want to put that kind of effort into it. I also have no idea how
good the application is and what sort of codecs it supports.
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> I've read about such a hack in the dealdatabase forums but last time I
> checked (and it was a while ago), the guys who wrote it were being
> elitists

Yes, but they know what they're talking about. It's like an amusement park
ride, you gotta be THIS tall to ride. Fortunately it's free.
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"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I've read about such a hack in the dealdatabase forums but last time I
>> checked (and it was a while ago), the guys who wrote it were being
>> elitists
>
> Yes, but they know what they're talking about. It's like an amusement
> park
> ride, you gotta be THIS tall to ride. Fortunately it's free.
>
>

I'm not saying they don't know what they're talking about, I've spent
countless hours over
the past few years in those forums figuring out stuff, but it really annoys
me when someone
comes along and wants to help simplify something and is jumped on. It's one
thing to learn
the TiVo OS internals, file system and architecture, but is it really
necessary to force someone
to learn how to use the Eclipse IDE, CVS and compilers on their PC which has
absolutely
nothing to do with TiVo.
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