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Jonah Falcon

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:02 pm
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Except I used facts. Thank you and good night.

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Nick Soapdish, Jr.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:08 pm
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On Oct 21, 4:02 pm, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny....RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Except I used facts. Thank you and good night.

Do you even read? He pretty much humiliated you, and you type a non-
response. Do you ever tire of being made to look the fool? Oh, I
forgot- you're the Ann Coulter of the video game blog world- you
depend on looking ridiculously stupid in order to get the attention
you crave.

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Jordan

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:52 pm
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On Oct 21, 4:51 pm, Robert P Holley <holle....DeleteThis@delanet.com> wrote:

> That's it? After all the incredible buzz and hype the price cut and
> the slim model created and this is all the PS3 can do?

Like I said, it is the 3rd highest month for the PS3 which is pretty
darned good!

PS3 sales by month:

12/07 797,600 -> 2nd Christmas
12/08 726,000 -> 3rd Christmas
09/09 491,800 -> Price cut/PS3 Slim
12/06 490,700 -> First Christmas (limited supply)
11/07 466,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
06/08 405,500 -> Metal Gear Solid 4
11/08 378,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
02/08 280,800
02/09 276,000
01/08 269,000
03/08 257,000
01/07 244,000
09/08 232,400
07/08 225,000
03/09 218,000
08/09 210,000
05/08 208,700
01/09 203,200
11/06 197,000 -> System launches
10/08 190,000
04/08 187,100
08/08 185,400
06/09 164,700
07/07 159,000
05/09 131,000
08/07 130,600
03/07 130,000
04/09 127,000
02/07 127,000
07/09 121,800
10/07 121,000
09/07 119,400
06/07 98,500
04/07 82,000
05/07 82,000

Here are the Wii sales for comparison, notice it's never sold less
than 250,000 in a month and it has 3 months over 1 million. The PS3
had 3 months under 100,000 and has never sold more than a million in a
month.

12/08 2,150,000 -> 3rd Christmas
11/08 2,040,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
12/07 1,350,000 -> 2nd Christmas
11/07 981,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
10/08 803,000
02/09 753,000
03/08 721,000
04/08 714,200
01/09 679,200
05/08 675,100
09/08 667,000
06/08 666,700
12/06 604,200 -> First Christmas, supplies limited.
03/09 601,000
07/08 555,000
10/07 519,000
09/07 501,000
11/06 476,000 -> System launches
09/09 462,800
08/08 453,000
01/07 436,000
02/08 432,000
07/07 425,000
08/07 403,600
06/07 381,800
06/09 361,700
04/07 360,000
04/09 340,000
05/07 338,000
02/07 335,000
05/09 289,500
08/09 277,400
01/08 274,000
03/07 259,000
07/09 252,500

Now the 360, keep in mind this covers only the 35 months it's been on
sale along side the PS3 and Wii. I don't have NPD numbers before that.

Like the Wii, 3 months over 1 million, although none over 2. Also has
had no sales lower than 150,000.

12/08 1,440,000 -> 4th Christmas
12/07 1,260,000 -> 3rd Christmas
12/06 1,100,000 -> 2st Christmas
11/08 836,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
11/07 770,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
09/07 527,800 -> Halo 3
11/06 511,000 -> Thanksgiving shopping season
02/09 391,000
10/08 371,000
10/07 366,000
09/09 352,600
09/08 347,200
03/09 330,000
01/09 309,000
01/07 294,000
08/07 276,700
03/08 262,000
02/08 254,600
06/09 240,600
01/08 230,000
02/07 228,000
06/08 219,800
08/09 215,400
07/08 205,000
07/09 202,900
03/07 199,000
06/07 198,400
08/08 195,200
04/08 188,000
05/08 186,600
04/09 175,000
05/09 175,000
04/07 174,000
07/07 170,000
05/07 155,000

- Jordan
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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:37 am
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On Oct 21, 5:02 pm, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny....DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Except I used facts. Thank you and good night.

Ignoring the *fact* that you sidestepped my entire post to produce
this non-response - and I don't blame you for this since I thoroughly
wiped the floor with your inept ass - you're wrong here.

"Problem is, you're assigning your own fanboy obsession on me,
fanboy."

It's a *fact* that Nick Soapdish is *not* a fanboy. By the same token,
it's a *fact* that you indeed *are* a fanboy no matter how much you
try to deny it. I simply pointed that out, and you incorrectly alleged
that I used an ad hominem abusive fallacy against you, which showed
that you have no idea what that is.

Now, if that sorry excuse for a response of yours was directed at my
classification of your earlier post as a strawman fallacy, all you've
done is shown that not only do you not know what an ad hominem
argument is but that you also don't know what a strawman fallacy is
since the misdirection argument can indeed be a fact - the fallacy is
in the invalid proof of a position using an unrelated statement, fact
or not.

Two strikes, buddy. At this rate, we're going to have to call you the
pre-2009 postseason A-Rod of the newsgroup.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:38 am
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On Oct 21, 8:08 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 4:02 pm, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny....RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Except I used facts. Thank you and good night.
>
> Do you even read?  He pretty much humiliated you, and you type a non-
> response.  Do you ever tire of being made to look the fool?  Oh, I
> forgot- you're the Ann Coulter of the video game blog world- you
> depend on looking ridiculously stupid in order to get the attention
> you crave.

Except that every once in a while, Ann Coulter makes a valid point...
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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:39 am
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On Oct 21, 7:56 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 1:33 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny....TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Problem is, you're assigning your own fanboy obsession on me, fanboy. I
> > don't care any more than Jordan does.
>
> Nice try, mental hatchling.  In the past, I've dared you to show proof
> of my fanboyism, and you fail to do so again and again.  As for proof
> of your fanboyism, it's evident any time you put virtual pen to
> paper.  Considering I have more 360 games than PS3 games, you fail yet
> again.  Time and time again, you focus on any little bit of negativity
> involving Sony, yet remain silent regarding Microsoft, except when
> your own temper tantrums about how you could've done better marketing
> for some game you like force you to do otherwise.  So, I wonder what
> disclosures you'll have to make under that new law regarding blogs and
> corporate "presents", hmmm?

He'll have to add "Editor's note: Jonah Falcon is a Microsoft shill"
to the end of each article.

> > "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:56699f54-8cb2-4075-956f-e30e3672400a@m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 20, 9:47 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny....TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > Problem is... there's less PS3's sold this year than last year... and more
> > > 360's sold this year than last year. So Yeah.
>
> > Problem is.......you're in love with a corporation.....who could care
> > less about you.....yet you don't realize it.  So yeah.
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jt august

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:39 am
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In article <me2dnQID3cpexkDXnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d.TakeThisOut@earthlink.com>,
"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Jordan's analysis here:
>
> http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/10/20/the-lund-report-september-2009-npd/

Here's what I find interesting, amongst all this bickering:

Console sales:
€ PS3 ­ 491,800
€ Wii ­ 462,800
€ Xbox 360 ­ 352,600
€ PS2 ­ 146,000


OK, so the PS3 is the top seller, and on the whole, Wii sales are down
roughly 30%, but Wii is still selling, at as of last month, it was only
behind PS3 by 30,000 units. What's more, I hear from a couple places
that a tangible portion of PS3 sales are replacements for dead PS3s,
whereas I hear very little of replacement console sales for the Wii. By
my reckoning, the Wii is still the top overall platform of this
generation, and is still very solid in these platform wars, chugging
along quiet and successful.

I would very much like to see a active unit count, considering all three
top players have had varying levels of dead console replacements. Who
has had the most replacements, and in these monthly reports, what
percentage is replacement units and what percentage is first time buyer
units? That would be far more telling.

Also quite telling is how the now vintage PS2 has had almost half as
many unit sales as the x360. And again, what percentage of those sales
are first time buyers?

jt
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:02 am
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In article <WIidnXliJNOFNkPXnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d.DeleteThis@earthlink.com>,
"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Problem is.......you're in love with a corporation.....who could care
> less about you.....yet you don't realize it. So yeah.

Problem is, corporations love fanboys, because they are easy sales to
build a foundation off of, and fanboys are great word-of-mouth, which is
the best form of advertising and the cheapest.

Those who would slam fanboys tend to either be fanboys for someone else,
or they think that fanboys are the lowest of the low, and it makes these
people feel better about themselves to insult those beneath them.

Sony, Nintendo and MS are thrilled to have their respective fanboys. It
is those groups that propel sales of Halo, Mario and Metal Gear. These
corporations will do what they can to nurture their fanboys, knowing
these groups are the easiest to satisfy and keep in their camps.

jt
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