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xray

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Since: Jul 29, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:28 am
Post subject: Recycling problems
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Recently I recycled my Omega EE Mig-Class-Shuttle on my Homebase!
Next turn I recognized two Problems:

First - I tryed to check whether the "recycling-Order" was conducted!
My first check was on the amount of Bugs on my Homebase. It was at
2.000MC´s and
not as expected at 12.000MC´s (think you know the cargo of the
Emperors Shuttle)!!!
-> "Houston - We have a Problem!"
How can I find out what happend or what not happend?
So - from my point of view it is very uncomfortabel to check this!
Why is there no Message in the "Incomming LOG" or in the
Base-LOG-File???
In other words: "I´d like to have such a message, because it´s
important to me!"

Second - My Orders to the Shuttle were:
1. Mission - Recyle at Base
2. Command Code: BDA (beam down all)
3. Command Code: BDM (beam down Metal and Money
(not BDC - beam down Cash))but, why is all the money gone???
Doesn´t it make sense, that a ship that will be recycled, got
automaticly unloaded and transfers
everything to the Base:
crew, passangers, Fuel, Dur, Tri, Moly, Supplys, ORD, RepairUnits,
MedUnits
and of course all the Bugs !!!?

So - I´m still not sure if the shuttle was recycled or not...
OK - she is not on the Shipslist(DataGrid) or anywhere in space...
She was not destroyed or boarded and got no Minehits...

Next step - because I´m smart Wink
I checked my HomeBase-Storage:
think she had 2 Intercepts - check -> yes in Storage
think she had an GS-BFS 3000 Shield - check -> yes in Storage
think she had 2 Plasma Guns - check -> nothing in Storage
think she had a Transwarp Engine - check -> nothing in Storage
think she had a Cydonia 3000 Hyperdrive -check -> nothing in Storage
think she had a Tokamak 8080 Generator - check -> nothing in Storage

mmhh....
I have no idea if the Storage was on that state before or not
and I´m also not quite sure, how the Omega was exactly Equiped...

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Magik

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Since: Mar 02, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:21 am
Post subject: Re: Recycling problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Confirmed. There is a problem with cash not being put into the base
when a ship is recycled. It looks like the metals, food, med units,
and hull plans on board the ship are not put into the base either, but
the metals from the hull cost are. Until this is repaired, I recommend
that you use your transport prior to recycle. I didn't test what
happens to docked wings or pods.

Magik

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Black No1

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Since: Jul 04, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:44 am
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....
> Next step - because I´m smart Wink
> I checked my HomeBase-Storage:
> think she had 2 Intercepts - check -> yes in Storage
> think she had an GS-BFS 3000 Shield - check -> yes in Storage
> think she had 2 Plasma Guns - check -> nothing in Storage
> think she had a Transwarp Engine - check -> nothing in Storage
> think she had a Cydonia 3000 Hyperdrive -check -> nothing in Storage
> think she had a Tokamak 8080 Generator - check -> nothing in Storage
....

As a guess: The 2 Intercepts and the Shield are in the base from the
start, so it seems, the mig was either not recycled or some space goat
came up and had it for lunch Wink

Cheers,
Jochen
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Lord Lancelot

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Since: Aug 21, 2005
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:05 am
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Black No1 wrote:
> ...
> > Next step - because I´m smart Wink
> > I checked my HomeBase-Storage:
> > think she had 2 Intercepts - check -> yes in Storage
> > think she had an GS-BFS 3000 Shield - check -> yes in Storage
> > think she had 2 Plasma Guns - check -> nothing in Storage
> > think she had a Transwarp Engine - check -> nothing in Storage
> > think she had a Cydonia 3000 Hyperdrive -check -> nothing in Storage
> > think she had a Tokamak 8080 Generator - check -> nothing in Storage

>From the parts, the ships did not recycle at all.

You start with 2 intercepts and a shield 3000.
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Amaranthine

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Since: Mar 04, 2005
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:11 am
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You should be able to Transport all cargo off on the same turn that
your Recycle.

Transport takes place during movement and Recycle takes place after.
Command Codes transfers take place after movement and apparently also
after Recycle.

The Recycle code should simply include a short bit at the beginning
that transfers everything aboard to the planet before the ship gets
disassembled. Ship plans can probably be ignored, requiring a bit more
care if you want to save them (Ship is melted down and seperated into
its constituent metals, not bothering to check databanks).

Magik wrote:
> Confirmed. There is a problem with cash not being put into the base
> when a ship is recycled. It looks like the metals, food, med units,
> and hull plans on board the ship are not put into the base either, but
> the metals from the hull cost are. Until this is repaired, I recommend
> that you use your transport prior to recycle. I didn't test what
> happens to docked wings or pods.
>
> Magik
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