Rebel Native Dust Off

What would be the effect of removing the Native Dust Off from the
Falcon?

Here are the mechanical changes:

1. Native Dust Off moves to Tech 5 instead of Tech 3.
2. Warp speed reduced to 20 instead of 90.
3. Max hyperjump range is reduced to 750 instead of 900.
4. Max hyperjump requires Hyperdrive tech 10 is required instead of
tech 7.
5. Hyperjump is normal instead of Fast.
6. MC cost is tripled and metal cost is x5.


So what would be the changes to the "balance" with this modification?

On Mar 26, 7:02 pm, KlingonKommand <P....RemoveThis@nurk.fnord> wrote:
> I would be in favour of pulling this particular tooth. Every game I've
> played with a Rebel in, they hoovered up ~75% of the natives before
> anyone else could get them. Saying "they are weak in late game" is a
> weak argument as they are so powerful early / mid game (and from what
> I've seen, late game too). All those free high tech engines and weapons,
> combined with rapid movement from hyperjumping, make them
> disproportionately powerful. In a normal game most other races have NONE
> of these freebies thanks to Rebs (and Privs).
>
> Removing the dustoff from the Falcon, or (better) increasing the Falcon
> hull tech and removing the Falcon from their starting ships is the way
> to go. Or simply removing the hyperdrive from the Falcon and making it a
> warp-only ship. Basically, you gotta give other players a chance to get
> the natives in their own areas or the Rebels are too powerful.
> --
> KlingonKommand

well i think the rebels need natives to generate cash but they have
more than one way to get them.

the first way is a low tech moderate speed long range lightly armored
hull with fast hyperdrive that can be produced in abundance in the
early turns.
mid to late game this ship is useless for native gathering.

the second way to gather natives is thru having a base nearby to your
enemys. while im not sure of the races range to steal natives from
enemy bases im guessing its probably similar to that of the pirates
cove(200 lyr) what i would propose is this, rather than allowing the
falcon to scoop up 100% of natives on unmanned planets, remove this
device and allow the rebels to gather natives of all types within 200
lyrs of thier base.... but not at a rate of 100% per turn. scale it to
maybe 10-15% per turn. this would still make the falcon useful as it
could run out and drop pods to form bases in neighborhoods where
natives appear. it scoop up from all planets and bases within range.
essentially similar to pirates cove but for natives. this will allow
the other races to gather natives, although not as many, they will at
least have a shot at getting some. and if they want to keep them they
have to ensure thier are no rebel bases within 200 lyrs. now this base
combined with the ability to hide thier bases under certain
conditions. i think would be a viable alternative for the rebels. as
for the MCBR. its tech is so high that it will be some time before
they can build large enough numbers of these to unbalance the
gathering table. so i wouldnt change the MCBR.

in summary : remove the rebel native dustoff device, do not change its
cost, a high speed, low tech ,long range ship with pod bays is still a
very valueable ship as there arent too many of these. and even fewer
with fast hyperdrives. set rebel base range of stealing natives to 200
lyrs, allow rebel bases to steal 10-15%( or a value based on
population?) per turn from bases and planets be them enemys. allys or
uncolonized planets.

Proto