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Since: Jul 13, 2005 Posts: 110
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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Since: Jul 13, 2005 Posts: 110
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
Post subject: Raiding and DKP Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
Post subject: Raiding and DKP Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:47 am
Post subject: Raiding and DKP Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a complete
collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the officers always
having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what they spent.
On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
guild and it's raids.
What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day 7-days
a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for these
days. >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan DeleteThis @kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
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> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan.RemoveThis@kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
> --
> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan.DeleteThis@kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
> --
> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan RemoveThis @kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
> --
> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan DeleteThis @kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
> --
> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 am
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1ST I would ask the Guild Master of your problem and take it from
there.
If you feel you are doing the raids just to make up numbers and for
the officers to get the loot I would suggest that you make a decision
for yourself to either agree or disagree with their policy
I dont think you will have a problem joining a different guild,
there are loads out there and what have you to lose by leaving?? You
aint getting any rewards for going anway with your current one..
Tghe decision is yours... Good luck.
Sprite wrote:
> "Jonathan" <jonathan.DeleteThis@kelloggcreek.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ej9t1p014mh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > I have a hypothetical question for ya'll:
> >
> > Let's say you spent a few months raiding with a guild and found their
> > entire DKP / Loot system to be broken, to the point of being near a
> > complete collapse. The system was also shifting heavily towards the
> > officers always having more DKP than regular members, regardless of what
> > they spent.
> > On top of this, due in large part to the flawed system, you have yet to
> > win a single item despite very large bids and regular involvement with the
> > guild and it's raids.
> >
> > What do you do? Bail out and cut your loses? Stick it out and hope
> > that eventually the system will work for you, broken as it is?
> > It looks like finding guilds the next couple months will be very
> > difficult as everyone waits for BC, better to stick it out and then start
> > fresh next year, or start hunting for a new guild now? This assumes you
> > aren't the priest / druid in full tier 3 who can raid 22 hours a day
> > 7-days a week, which seems to be the only thing anyone is recruiting for
> > these days.
>
> I'd be interested to know how it's broken - how can they possibly justify
> the officers getting the most loot, etc?
>
> (Beyond a Main Tank priority of course - this is logical and somewhat
> necessary in most cases for guild progression)
>
> --
> Sue >> Stay informed about: Raiding and DKP |
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