Prestige Classes and Specialists

Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.

Gerald Katz
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Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.

Gerald Katz
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp.DeleteThis@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
 >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists 

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble.TakeThisOut@degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
 >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists 

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp.DeleteThis@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
 >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists 

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble.TakeThisOut@degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
 >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists 

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:40:04 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
>
>> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
>> take the PrC for his next level?
>
>Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
>
>This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
>spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
>multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
>which may not be what you want.

Thought about that one as well (after all, the original one you
responded to said Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, which does the same
thing). However, one of the objectives in the other branch of this
thread is to arrange it (ideally) such that Sorcerers can take it at
Level 1, while Wizards can take it at Level 3. I may have to give up
one of those objectives, alas.
 >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists 

On the grave of gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com (Ken Andrews) is inscribed:

>Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>prestige classes?

IMHO, it's because you are *worse* at something than a normal wizard.
eg you never learned Necromancy because your aged master didn't
approve of it.

>Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>specialize.

This is OK, if you arrange it such that you get a gradual improvement
and no loss. Otherwise it's a bit pointless.

How did you intend that he use scrolls and wands? As written, he can
do what he likes with them, which is a *big* improvement.

--
Jim or Sarah Davies, but probably Jim

D&D and Star Fleet Battles stuff on http://www.aaargh.org
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In article <1163573882.733646.101940.RemoveThis@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Hadsil" <forumite.RemoveThis@netzero.com> wrote:

> Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
> for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
> use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
> become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
> naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
>
> Gerald Katz

Rather than as a PrC, I view specialists as casters who follow casting
traditions. It's just one way to approach the issue.

- E
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In article <1163573882.733646.101940.TakeThisOut@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Hadsil" <forumite.TakeThisOut@netzero.com> wrote:

> Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
> for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
> use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
> become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
> naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
>
> Gerald Katz

Rather than as a PrC, I view specialists as casters who follow casting
traditions. It's just one way to approach the issue.

- E
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In article <1163573882.733646.101940.RemoveThis@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Hadsil" <forumite.RemoveThis@netzero.com> wrote:

> Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
> for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
> use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
> become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
> naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
>
> Gerald Katz

Rather than as a PrC, I view specialists as casters who follow casting
traditions. It's just one way to approach the issue.

- E
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