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(Msg. 46) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:36:44 -0800, "David" <caissaintp.RemoveThis@adelphia.net>
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>"Ken Andrews" <gobble.RemoveThis@degook.com> wrote in message
>> Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>> prestige classes? Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>> specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>> specialize.
>>
>> Something I've been thinking about is a *very* short Prestige Class,
>> the Magical Specialist.
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>There is a PrC in Complete Mage that extends the abilities of specialists.
>Don't recall the name of it...maybe some else does? This isn't the same as
>what you are attempting, which is the creation of the specialization, but is
>in the theme of what you are attempting.
Haven't gotten that book yet. Maybe I should be taking a look.
>> Requirements
>> To qualify to become a Magical Specialist, a character must fulfill
>> all the following criteria: Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, Spell Focus,
>> Able to cast 2nd level arcane spells.
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>Note that the character wouldn't be able to take this until 4th level. 2nd
>level wizard levels up. Until he chooses a class that boosts his spell
>casting (such as wizard or this PrC), he cannot cast 2nd level arcane spells
>and thus doesn't qualify.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yup, misthought it and miswrote it.
So, I guess it's Level 4 for Wizards, Level 1 for Sorcerers. (Check
the rewritten version elsewhere in the thread, it allows Sorcerers at
Level 1 by changing the requirement to allow via spontaneous casting
and changes the Knowledge (Arcana) requirement to a total +5 modifier
rather than 5 ranks.)
Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
take the PrC for his next level? |
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:36:44 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>> Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>> prestige classes? Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>> specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>> specialize.
>>
>> Something I've been thinking about is a *very* short Prestige Class,
>> the Magical Specialist.
>
>There is a PrC in Complete Mage that extends the abilities of specialists.
>Don't recall the name of it...maybe some else does? This isn't the same as
>what you are attempting, which is the creation of the specialization, but is
>in the theme of what you are attempting.
Haven't gotten that book yet. Maybe I should be taking a look.
>> Requirements
>> To qualify to become a Magical Specialist, a character must fulfill
>> all the following criteria: Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, Spell Focus,
>> Able to cast 2nd level arcane spells.
>
>Note that the character wouldn't be able to take this until 4th level. 2nd
>level wizard levels up. Until he chooses a class that boosts his spell
>casting (such as wizard or this PrC), he cannot cast 2nd level arcane spells
>and thus doesn't qualify.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yup, misthought it and miswrote it.
So, I guess it's Level 4 for Wizards, Level 1 for Sorcerers. (Check
the rewritten version elsewhere in the thread, it allows Sorcerers at
Level 1 by changing the requirement to allow via spontaneous casting
and changes the Knowledge (Arcana) requirement to a total +5 modifier
rather than 5 ranks.)
Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
take the PrC for his next level? |
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:36:44 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>> Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>> prestige classes? Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>> specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>> specialize.
>>
>> Something I've been thinking about is a *very* short Prestige Class,
>> the Magical Specialist.
>
>There is a PrC in Complete Mage that extends the abilities of specialists.
>Don't recall the name of it...maybe some else does? This isn't the same as
>what you are attempting, which is the creation of the specialization, but is
>in the theme of what you are attempting.
Haven't gotten that book yet. Maybe I should be taking a look.
>> Requirements
>> To qualify to become a Magical Specialist, a character must fulfill
>> all the following criteria: Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, Spell Focus,
>> Able to cast 2nd level arcane spells.
>
>Note that the character wouldn't be able to take this until 4th level. 2nd
>level wizard levels up. Until he chooses a class that boosts his spell
>casting (such as wizard or this PrC), he cannot cast 2nd level arcane spells
>and thus doesn't qualify.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yup, misthought it and miswrote it.
So, I guess it's Level 4 for Wizards, Level 1 for Sorcerers. (Check
the rewritten version elsewhere in the thread, it allows Sorcerers at
Level 1 by changing the requirement to allow via spontaneous casting
and changes the Knowledge (Arcana) requirement to a total +5 modifier
rather than 5 ranks.)
Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
take the PrC for his next level? >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:36:44 -0800, "David" <caissaintp RemoveThis @adelphia.net>
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>"Ken Andrews" <gobble RemoveThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>> Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>> prestige classes? Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>> specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>> specialize.
>>
>> Something I've been thinking about is a *very* short Prestige Class,
>> the Magical Specialist.
>
>There is a PrC in Complete Mage that extends the abilities of specialists.
>Don't recall the name of it...maybe some else does? This isn't the same as
>what you are attempting, which is the creation of the specialization, but is
>in the theme of what you are attempting.
Haven't gotten that book yet. Maybe I should be taking a look.
>> Requirements
>> To qualify to become a Magical Specialist, a character must fulfill
>> all the following criteria: Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, Spell Focus,
>> Able to cast 2nd level arcane spells.
>
>Note that the character wouldn't be able to take this until 4th level. 2nd
>level wizard levels up. Until he chooses a class that boosts his spell
>casting (such as wizard or this PrC), he cannot cast 2nd level arcane spells
>and thus doesn't qualify.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yup, misthought it and miswrote it.
So, I guess it's Level 4 for Wizards, Level 1 for Sorcerers. (Check
the rewritten version elsewhere in the thread, it allows Sorcerers at
Level 1 by changing the requirement to allow via spontaneous casting
and changes the Knowledge (Arcana) requirement to a total +5 modifier
rather than 5 ranks.)
Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
take the PrC for his next level? >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:36:44 -0800, "David" <caissaintp DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
wrote:
>"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
>> Why are specialist mages (Diviner, Evoker, Necromancer...) not
>> prestige classes? Wouldn't it make better sense to have
>> specialization as such? I.e., you hit Level 3 and you can optionally
>> specialize.
>>
>> Something I've been thinking about is a *very* short Prestige Class,
>> the Magical Specialist.
>
>There is a PrC in Complete Mage that extends the abilities of specialists.
>Don't recall the name of it...maybe some else does? This isn't the same as
>what you are attempting, which is the creation of the specialization, but is
>in the theme of what you are attempting.
Haven't gotten that book yet. Maybe I should be taking a look.
>> Requirements
>> To qualify to become a Magical Specialist, a character must fulfill
>> all the following criteria: Knowledge (Arcana) 5 ranks, Spell Focus,
>> Able to cast 2nd level arcane spells.
>
>Note that the character wouldn't be able to take this until 4th level. 2nd
>level wizard levels up. Until he chooses a class that boosts his spell
>casting (such as wizard or this PrC), he cannot cast 2nd level arcane spells
>and thus doesn't qualify.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Yup, misthought it and miswrote it.
So, I guess it's Level 4 for Wizards, Level 1 for Sorcerers. (Check
the rewritten version elsewhere in the thread, it allows Sorcerers at
Level 1 by changing the requirement to allow via spontaneous casting
and changes the Knowledge (Arcana) requirement to a total +5 modifier
rather than 5 ranks.)
Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
take the PrC for his next level? >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble DeleteThis @degook.com> wrote in message
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> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.RemoveThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.RemoveThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 pm
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"Ken Andrews" <gobble.DeleteThis@degook.com> wrote in message
news:455a229a.2905633515@shawnews...
> Alternatively, can you think of a wording that allows a L2 Wizard to
> take the PrC for his next level?
Spellcraft 5 ranks and Ability to Cast Arcane Spells
This will guarantee minimum of going into 3rd level (else can't have the
spellcraft), and it insures that you have an arcanist. It would allow
multi-class casters who only have a single level of an arcane casting class,
which may not be what you want.
David >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:58 pm
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Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
Gerald Katz >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:58 pm
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Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
Gerald Katz >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:58 pm
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Complete Mage offers a Prestige Class called Master Specialist which is
for specialist mages. You start out as the "normal" specilist and then
use the prestige class to specialize more. It is purposely designed to
become eligible at level 4. Prestige Class abilities gained are
naturally dependent upon what school you are specialized in.
Gerald Katz >> Stay informed about: Prestige Classes and Specialists |
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