Pets and eggs

Neil Jones wrote:
> Can hunters' pets break the eggs in the egg room in ubrs if they run
> near them? A shaman from another guild insisted a pet was to blame,
> even though the hunters present assured him that they couldn't.
>
> The aforesaid shaman also said he'd bet 10g he was right, he was so
> convinced he'd seen a pet run over eggs which then broke and produced
> the whelps which wiped us. I took that bet - is he wrong, and owes me
> 10g, or is he right, in which case I'd better dismiss the pet each time
> I go through that room?
>
> Bragging rights are involved, including naming and shaming if the bet
> isn't honoured...
>
> ___
> Neil
> aka HighVis
>
> --

I do believe you are correct.but dont take me as a credible source for
anything pve
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Neil Jones wrote:
> Can hunters' pets break the eggs in the egg room in ubrs if they run
> near them? A shaman from another guild insisted a pet was to blame,
> even though the hunters present assured him that they couldn't.
>
> The aforesaid shaman also said he'd bet 10g he was right, he was so
> convinced he'd seen a pet run over eggs which then broke and produced
> the whelps which wiped us. I took that bet - is he wrong, and owes me
> 10g, or is he right, in which case I'd better dismiss the pet each time
> I go through that room?
>
> Bragging rights are involved, including naming and shaming if the bet
> isn't honoured...
>
> ___
> Neil
> aka HighVis
>
> --

Why not just go back there and see? Have pet up and watch what happens
with him running through the room.
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> Orion Ryder <orionryder DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Is this the place where that Leroy Jenkins vid takes place?
>
> That's the one. A room almost specifically engineered to piss off pugging
> priests trying to get their Devout shoulders.

LOL! Yep. Most parties want to skip the rookery quest and just get through
there alive, as quickly as possible. Include me in their number I don't
mind doing it with a skilled and experienced and well built guild group,
but pugs are almost a guaranteed wipe or two, if they try it. Even without
the legendary Leeeeerooooy.
-Marshall
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"Ovak" <neil.roosa DeleteThis @tinker.af.mil> wrote in message
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>
> Neil Jones wrote:
>> Can hunters' pets break the eggs in the egg room in ubrs if they run
>> near them? A shaman from another guild insisted a pet was to blame,
>> even though the hunters present assured him that they couldn't.
>>
>> The aforesaid shaman also said he'd bet 10g he was right, he was so
>> convinced he'd seen a pet run over eggs which then broke and produced
>> the whelps which wiped us. I took that bet - is he wrong, and owes me
>> 10g, or is he right, in which case I'd better dismiss the pet each time
>> I go through that room?
>>
>> Bragging rights are involved, including naming and shaming if the bet
>> isn't honoured...
>>
>> ___
>> Neil
>> aka HighVis
>>
>> --
>
> Why not just go back there and see? Have pet up and watch what happens
> with him running through the room.

Yep, just use the hunter skill that lets you take over your pet and direct him
around, and you can run him in there and stand him in a pile of eggs to see
what happens.
-Marshall
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> Marshall <Marshall.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>> mind doing it with a skilled and experienced and well built guild group,
>> but pugs are almost a guaranteed wipe or two, if they try it. Even without
>
> Which is sad, because it's such an easy encounter. It's hard to break pugs
> out of the "tank -> build aggro -> dps" mindset. For rookery, it's all-out
> damage right from word go. I've done it with pugs who realized this, and it
> was a cakewalk (and fun, on my priest I don't get to cut loose very often
> in instances).
>
> I got my Devout there (with a good pug who knew the trick) and now I don't
> have to worry about it. But I've been amazed and annoyed by groups who
> would bait-and-switch myself and other priests on that encounter.

Please explain 'bait and switch', in this context? Not sure what you mean.
-Marshall
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:27:58 GMT, "Marshall" <Marshall.RemoveThis@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Yep, just use the hunter skill that lets you take over your pet and direct him
>around, and you can run him in there and stand him in a pile of eggs to see
>what happens.

I think a better test would be:

Pet stay -> run around a bunch of eggs -> pet follow (it runs through
a bunch of eggs).

It is possible that the game stops being nice to pets when they are
directly controlled by a player.

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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 00:07:48 +0000 (UTC), hume.spamfilter RemoveThis @bofh.ca wrote:

>I hate doing that, but UBRS is meant for more than just getting swords off
>Rend or Finkle's Skinner. I wish Blizzard would add some kind of decent
>"dps class" piece to the drop, rather than a mediocre rogue item.

Actually it's not a mediocre rogue item, I'm still wearing mine when almost
everything else I wear is beyond dungeon level - even when I replace it
with the ZG reward chest soon I'll still keep it for my fire res gear, as
it's really a very nice piece. Just most rogues don't know it exists or
would rather take the Shadowcraft chest - which I'll admit I'd rather have
had but Nightbrace has grown on me and I like it now.

Not that I'd have shouted to do the event just to get it, as it didn't look
that great at first glance, it just happened to drop when I was in a group
that did it
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Simon Nejmann a écrit :

> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:27:58 GMT, "Marshall" <Marshall.TakeThisOut@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Yep, just use the hunter skill that lets you take over your pet and direct him
> >around, and you can run him in there and stand him in a pile of eggs to see
> >what happens.
>
> I think a better test would be:
>
> Pet stay -> run around a bunch of eggs -> pet follow (it runs through
> a bunch of eggs).
>
> It is possible that the game stops being nice to pets when they are
> directly controlled by a player.
>
> --
> Regards
> Simon Nejmann

Actually they can break eggs, but they just don't do it most of the
time. The position of your pet server side is different from what you
can see. We tested that with a couple RL friends, they were running
together. On their respective screens, they each had their pet running
behind them and the other's pet running in front of them.

So if you're unlucky, then yes, you'll break some eggs. But it just
doesn't happen all that much, unless you go right through them with eye
of the beast on or with a pet attack (which synchronizes your pet
position server-side). Similarly, unless you're standing still with
your pet right on top of a lower level mob, your idling pet will not
aggro mobs, you will.

Just assume your hunter's position is responsible in the vast majority
of cases of aggro concerns.
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"Marshall" <Marshall.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

> LOL! Yep. Most parties want to skip the rookery quest and just get through
> there alive, as quickly as possible. Include me in their number I don't
> mind doing it with a skilled and experienced and well built guild group,
> but pugs are almost a guaranteed wipe or two, if they try it. Even without
> the legendary Leeeeerooooy.

To be honest, I wiped in many spots in UBRS, bet never in the egg room.
Not once in well over 15 runs
I was a bit puzzled recently when there was some nervous rogue stating
that yes, we will do the event for his priest buddy, and no, we won't
wipe, not this time! I didn't really understand his panic

Chris

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Marshall a écrit :
> <hume.spamfilter DeleteThis @bofh.ca> wrote in message
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>> Orion Ryder <orionryder DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is this the place where that Leroy Jenkins vid takes place?
>> That's the one. A room almost specifically engineered to piss off pugging
>> priests trying to get their Devout shoulders.
>
> LOL! Yep. Most parties want to skip the rookery quest and just get through
> there alive, as quickly as possible. Include me in their number I don't
> mind doing it with a skilled and experienced and well built guild group,
> but pugs are almost a guaranteed wipe or two, if they try it. Even without
> the legendary Leeeeerooooy.
> -Marshall
>
>

Wellll, I remember doing it with a bunch of friends, I (mage) died for
some silly reason on the first wave, but Vrak-the-invincible warlock and
Fleur-grandmother-priests-are-the-best cleaned ou everything without any
trouble at all. A continued rain of fire that just went on and on and on
and on......


That was the night I first realised the incredible power of a well
played warlock - until then I had only ever really seen them as would-be
mages and handy lolly shops.


Mel
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:25:54 +0100, Neil Jones
<neil.RemoveThis@designumbrella.com> wrote:

>Can hunters' pets break the eggs in the egg room in ubrs if they run
>near them? A shaman from another guild insisted a pet was to blame,
>even though the hunters present assured him that they couldn't.
>
>The aforesaid shaman also said he'd bet 10g he was right, he was so
>convinced he'd seen a pet run over eggs which then broke and produced
>the whelps which wiped us. I took that bet - is he wrong, and owes me
>10g, or is he right, in which case I'd better dismiss the pet each time
>I go through that room?
>
>Bragging rights are involved, including naming and shaming if the bet
>isn't honoured...

I'm unsure. My hunter always dismisses her pet before proceeding
through the eggs, just to be on the safe side. It's really not worth
the hassle if it does break eggs.

Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
Fthagn, Undead Warrior
Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
Thunderhorn,US
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:02:05 +0200, "Christian Stauffer"
<wildcard666.RemoveThis@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>"Marshall" <Marshall.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL! Yep. Most parties want to skip the rookery quest and just get through
>> there alive, as quickly as possible. Include me in their number I don't
>> mind doing it with a skilled and experienced and well built guild group,
>> but pugs are almost a guaranteed wipe or two, if they try it. Even without
>> the legendary Leeeeerooooy.
>
>To be honest, I wiped in many spots in UBRS, bet never in the egg room.
>Not once in well over 15 runs
>I was a bit puzzled recently when there was some nervous rogue stating
>that yes, we will do the event for his priest buddy, and no, we won't
>wipe, not this time! I didn't really understand his panic

Heh yeah I've only been there 3 or 4 times myself but it seemed one of the
easier parts... I've only ever gone in 15-man raids (well, 13-15, was all
before the 10-man limit came in anyway) so I figured maybe I found it
easier because of the higher number of people. But it certainly didn't look
too hard to do with 10, unlike some other parts (thinking of various wipes
on the group pulls before Drakkisath...)
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Mel <melodie DeleteThis @pasdespam.chezmoi> writes:
>trouble at all. A continued rain of fire that just went on and on and on
>and on......

With a healer refuelling them, a warlock can cast spells forever. Even
without healing, I've cast as many as 12 rains of fire without running out
of life and mana. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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