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Neil Jones

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:18 pm
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"I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
"Need 4"
"I've only got 3!"
"I need one more"
"No, wait a minute, I've got them"
"Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."

etc etc etc

It's getting boring, and I can't really find an add-on that helps. I
saw QuestAnnouncer, which just echoes the text you get when you pick up
a quest item, and shows it to the party in the format: Gnoll Paw 3/8,
but that's not going to help when the text scrolls up.

So.. is there an addon that shows, possibly in a small, toggle-able
window, the status of each party member regarding how many of the
current quest items they have?

And, on a related topic, once one member has got all items, should the
party switch to FFA (and that person not loot any more), or would the
quest item still come up under Group Loot (allowing the completed
player to still take turns looting, and then just step back from the
corpse so that some-one else can loot the quest item)?

Ta

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:18 pm
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"Neil Jones" <neil.TakeThisOut@designumbrella.com> wrote in message
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> "I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
> "Need 4"
> "I've only got 3!"
> "I need one more"
> "No, wait a minute, I've got them"
> "Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."
>

Screw an addon for this simple task Blizzard has thought of. Shift left
click the quest if you have to gather something.

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Grant

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:18 pm
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"Neil Jones" <neil DeleteThis @designumbrella.com> wrote in message
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> "I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
> "Need 4"
> "I've only got 3!"
> "I need one more"
> "No, wait a minute, I've got them"
> "Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."
>
> etc etc etc
>
> It's getting boring, and I can't really find an add-on that helps. I
> saw QuestAnnouncer, which just echoes the text you get when you pick up
> a quest item, and shows it to the party in the format: Gnoll Paw 3/8,
> but that's not going to help when the text scrolls up.
>
> So.. is there an addon that shows, possibly in a small, toggle-able
> window, the status of each party member regarding how many of the
> current quest items they have?
>
> And, on a related topic, once one member has got all items, should the
> party switch to FFA (and that person not loot any more), or would the
> quest item still come up under Group Loot (allowing the completed
> player to still take turns looting, and then just step back from the
> corpse so that some-one else can loot the quest item)?
>

Cosmos has that built in, but everyone in the party has to be using cosmos to
show what they have picked up.
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Stavros Christoforou

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:54 pm
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Neil Jones wrote:
> "I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
> "Need 4"
> "I've only got 3!"
> "I need one more"
> "No, wait a minute, I've got them"
> "Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."
>
> etc etc etc
>
> It's getting boring, and I can't really find an add-on that helps. I
> saw QuestAnnouncer, which just echoes the text you get when you pick up
> a quest item, and shows it to the party in the format: Gnoll Paw 3/8,
> but that's not going to help when the text scrolls up.
>
> So.. is there an addon that shows, possibly in a small, toggle-able
> window, the status of each party member regarding how many of the
> current quest items they have?
>
I use CTMod, which includes a mod that identifies how many members of
your party have the same quest as you, using a number next to the quest
description. Maybe thats helpful.
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juju2112

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:17 am
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I just coded macro 2 days ago to address this problem.

/script i = GetNumQuestLeaderBoards(); for j = 1, i, 1 do a1, a2, a3 =
GetQuestLogLeaderBoard(j); SendChatMesssage(a1, "PARTY"); end;


It outputs the quest objectives for the quest you currently have
selected in your quest log. Since the quest log remembers the last
quest you selected, you do not need to have the quest log open in order
to use it.

This is a major timesaver for me!
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Erick Pelden

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:15 am
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Stavros Christoforou <S.Christoforou_removeme_ RemoveThis @iri.tudelft.nl> wrote:
> I use CTMod, which includes a mod that identifies how many members of
> your party have the same quest as you, using a number next to the quest
> description. Maybe thats helpful.

That functionality is in the standard ui since patch 1.4

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David Carson

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:21 am
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flame_thrower wrote:
> "Neil Jones" <neil.TakeThisOut@designumbrella.com> wrote in message
> news:040720051518510549%neil@designumbrella.com...
>
>>"I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
>>"Need 4"
>>"I've only got 3!"
>>"I need one more"
>>"No, wait a minute, I've got them"
>>"Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."
>
> Screw an addon for this simple task Blizzard has thought of. Shift left
> click the quest if you have to gather something.

That is in no way a solution to what Neil was talking about.

Cheers!
David...
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flame_thrower

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:21 am
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"David Carson" <david.DeleteThis@eldergothSPAMTRAP.com> wrote in message
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> flame_thrower wrote:
>> "Neil Jones" <neil.DeleteThis@designumbrella.com> wrote in message
>> news:040720051518510549%neil@designumbrella.com...
>>
>>>"I've got them all now. How about you lot?"
>>>"Need 4"
>>>"I've only got 3!"
>>>"I need one more"
>>>"No, wait a minute, I've got them"
>>>"Ah, which ones are those? I was managing my inv at the time..."
>>
>> Screw an addon for this simple task Blizzard has thought of. Shift left
>> click the quest if you have to gather something.
>
> That is in no way a solution to what Neil was talking about.
>
Why does one concern go to everybody else. Work in a group and announce
done. Eh. Whatever.
> Cheers!
> David...
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Neil Jones

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:27 am
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In article <gdpye.44292$rb6.2319@lakeread07>, flame_thrower
<skankyxwhore400.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:


> Why does one concern go to everybody else. Work in a group and announce
> done. Eh. Whatever.

You miss my point. Of course you need to know what everyone else has,
otherwise you don't know if you need to be in the same area for 2 mins
or 20 mins. A group will behave a lot differently if one person still
needs a lot of quest items.

My request was for some way to bypass the need to keep asking/telling
each other how many items we have/need. A separate add-on would work,
with a small window showing each member, and the number of items
needed. Alternatively, the Tracker could be adjusted, to show group
amounts as well as your own.

Either way, I was just looking for a way to stop clogging up the chat
window, and to work out easily whether we needed to change looting
rules to help those who don't have all the items yet.

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aka HighVis
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:27 am
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"Neil Jones" <neil.TakeThisOut@designumbrella.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gdpye.44292$rb6.2319@lakeread07>, flame_thrower
> <skankyxwhore400.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Why does one concern go to everybody else. Work in a group and announce
>> done. Eh. Whatever.
>
> You miss my point. Of course you need to know what everyone else has,
> otherwise you don't know if you need to be in the same area for 2 mins
> or 20 mins. A group will behave a lot differently if one person still
> needs a lot of quest items.
>
> My request was for some way to bypass the need to keep asking/telling
> each other how many items we have/need. A separate add-on would work,
> with a small window showing each member, and the number of items
> needed. Alternatively, the Tracker could be adjusted, to show group
> amounts as well as your own.
>
> Either way, I was just looking for a way to stop clogging up the chat
> window, and to work out easily whether we needed to change looting
> rules to help those who don't have all the items yet.
>
I see now. Something that monitors the chat/combat log for loot. I wouldn't
know. But somebody else that does has already tried.
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> aka HighVis
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Christian Stauffer

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:43 am
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"Neil Jones" <neil.RemoveThis@designumbrella.com> wrote:

> Either way, I was just looking for a way to stop clogging up the chat
> window, and to work out easily whether we needed to change looting
> rules to help those who don't have all the items yet.

There is no reason to change looting rules for quest items. Someone
wrote here some time ago about experiments they did, and the result
were:
- As long as someone in your group needs quest item X from mob A,
whenever mob A is killed by the group, it has a chance to drop
item X
- Whether or not the item is dropped is determined at the moment mob
A dies, not when its body is looted
- Even when player1 who doesn't have the quest (or has completed it)
is looting the body, the quest item (if it dropped) can still be
looted by another person.
- Both player1 (who is in turn to loot the body) and player2 (who
isn't in turn, but needs the quest item) will see the "glimmering"
body, both can loot it (order doesn't matter). Player1 will see
the dropped items (cloth, body parts, white/gray items, ...) while
player2 will only see his quest items.

This is 100% equal to my experiences, although I never really
experimented to prove it.

Chris

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:38 am
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"Christian Stauffer" <wildcard666.DeleteThis@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> "Neil Jones" <neil.DeleteThis@designumbrella.com> wrote:
>
> > Either way, I was just looking for a way to stop clogging up the chat
> > window, and to work out easily whether we needed to change looting
> > rules to help those who don't have all the items yet.
>
> There is no reason to change looting rules for quest items. Someone
> wrote here some time ago about experiments they did, and the result
> were:
> - As long as someone in your group needs quest item X from mob A,
> whenever mob A is killed by the group, it has a chance to drop
> item X
> - Whether or not the item is dropped is determined at the moment mob
> A dies, not when its body is looted
> - Even when player1 who doesn't have the quest (or has completed it)
> is looting the body, the quest item (if it dropped) can still be
> looted by another person.
> - Both player1 (who is in turn to loot the body) and player2 (who
> isn't in turn, but needs the quest item) will see the "glimmering"
> body, both can loot it (order doesn't matter). Player1 will see
> the dropped items (cloth, body parts, white/gray items, ...) while
> player2 will only see his quest items.

I'm not sure on this last point. In my experience, both players can loot
and both can see all the items on the corpse, while one player additionally
sees the quest item. It happend to me quite a lot, that I went shift-left
click looting and got the "object is busy" message. Sometimes object refers
to the corpse and sometimes to individual items in the loot box. Also I saw
items disappear in the opened loot box. Items that the other player looted.

CU

René

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