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Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:03 pm
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NCS is advertising pre-orders for the very last Sega Direct package,
something they're calling the Phantasy Star Online Complete Collection...
for PS2? Anybody have any idea what this is? No graphical web for me
during the day, so anybody who can peek at Sega Direct and report back
gets to be responsible for me spending $120. Smile

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BelPowerslave

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:14 pm
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> NCS is advertising pre-orders for the very last Sega Direct package,
> something they're calling the Phantasy Star Online Complete Collection...
> for PS2? Anybody have any idea what this is? No graphical web for me
> during the day, so anybody who can peek at Sega Direct and report back
> gets to be responsible for me spending $120. Smile

If they are advertising it, they're doing a shitty job. It's nowhere on
the front page, and doing a search doesn't bring it up. If you can post
a link to where it's located, I'll take a look for you. Smile

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:14 pm
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BelPowerslave wrote:
>> NCS is advertising pre-orders for the very last Sega Direct package,
>> something they're calling the Phantasy Star Online Complete
>> Collection... for PS2? Anybody have any idea what this is? No
>> graphical web for me during the day, so anybody who can peek at Sega
>> Direct and report back gets to be responsible for me spending $120. Smile
>
>
> If they are advertising it, they're doing a shitty job. It's nowhere on
> the front page, and doing a search doesn't bring it up. If you can post
> a link to where it's located, I'll take a look for you. Smile

It's a PS2 collection featuring the original four Phantasy Star games,
plus the "online" Mega Modem games (with characters from PSII) that were
never released in North America. As far as I know, it has nothing to do
with "Phantasy Star Online", which is a bit confusing.

The version of the game NCS is selling appears to be extra pricey
because it includes a four CD "Phantasy Star Complete Album", as well as
a "Phantasy Star Metal Pinbadge".

Needless to say, I'm there, dude Smile

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BelPowerslave

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:27 pm
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> Yeah, but who's going to buy it? The RGVS crowd? Which is you, me, Scott,
> Ethan, and about a half-dozen die-hards.

For Nights, I think quite a few people would buy it. I mean, you've got
to figure that most people didn't own a Saturn, so this would be their
chance to finally play it. Have Sega sell it at $24.99 or something low
like that, it's gotta bring some sort of profit...especially if they did
Europe as well as the US. Plus, have you heard about it? It's no
upgraded in any way, shape or form(from what I've read), it's a straight
Saturn port...which means they put little to no effort(or money) in to
it. It's bound to see a profit if they can just get it out on a market
past Japan.

> The PSO/PSU players are a niche
> MMO crowd that digs social gaming and doesn't really care about the
> Phantasy Star history. And the rabid otaku in California and New York are
> just going to order the import because they already speak fluent,
> declarative Japanese. There's not enough market in the English-speaking
> world for them to make money off of a localization.

Well, like I said, I can see why they wouldn't take the time to copy and
paste the Genesis text(or just use the US roms, like you mention), then
translate what remained, that is a lot of time and effort and would
probably severely limit their profit margin(I just threw in the dig
about how lazy they are because...well, they are). Wink

> I don't know if this is strictly true or not. I've heard anecdotally that
> Japanese gamers like having hardware sales restricted, but that's only
> because that stuff is actually scarce. Software is fungible, and I can't
> imagine that there's any real animosity about who gets to buy. This is all
> about return on investment, not elitism.

You could be right, but it's just difficult when you hear about all
these non-stop games that show up only in Japan, and then hear about
legions of people signing petitions, etc. to get them to bring it
over...and yet it never seems to happen. To me, I liken it a lot to one
of those bullshit "limited release" films you hear about: The
producers/actors/director want it to do extremely well, they want to
make millions off of it, but yet they only put it out in around 1,000
theaters across the country. What kills me is when they you read
interviews about how "disappointed" they were with lack of viewers. Wink

> Again, we're reasoning in a vacuum. Are these just straight SMS/MD
> emulation packages, or is there enhanced graphics? Any extra fonts or
> special spacing that has to be considered? Any testing that has to be
> repeated for the English versions? We're not talking about an
> insignificant expense here. It would be lazy if they released it without
> doing those things, and as it stands it just looks efficient to me.

With Sega's lazy ass, I'm almost certain it'll be SMS/MD roms running on
some hacked version of Gens or something. Now, if we find out that they
are completely new renditions or something, that'd be something
else...and I'd agree, a whole lot of work would probably have to be
done, costing a lot of money.

> Let's look at this another way... This is a Sega Direct package that's
> costing Japanese gamers about 10,000 yen to pick up, mail order only.
> Would American gamers be willing to buy this for $150, knowing that there
> are about two dozen JRPG titles coming out on the PS2, PS3 and DS? You
> have to consider also that releases have to be competitive, and even the
> most lifeless otaku would consider three next-gen games over a single
> retro release for the same money. This is not a hard financial decision,
> and I don't think it's worth being mad about. Not when Happy Tree Friends
> False Alarm and Shiren the Wanderer are both on the way. Smile

Hehehheh, good call. For the PS collection, you have a point, Sega would
be hard pressed to get any gamer outside of Japan to pay that much...but
for Nights, on the other hand, I think they could really turn a profit
if they could just be bothered to bring it to the US.

I mean, look at these various Neo Geo compilations that have been
hitting the PS2 for a while now. They are dirt cheap to make, there's
little to no actual effort put in on them other than maybe optimizing
the emulation and they are intelligently bringing it to the US to
maximize profits. As far as I can tell, it's working, because they are
*still* putting them out over here. Smile

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:51 am
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BelPowerslave wrote:

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> You could be right, but it's just difficult when you hear about all
> these non-stop games that show up only in Japan,

Mainland Asia too tho, right? Most games get released there. And that
is, what, 40% of the world population (assuming the Indian subcontinent
is included in the numbers)?
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