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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:02 am
Post subject: PS3 Gundam 'render target' vs actual game....LOL
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:17 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:07 am
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Fred Liken wrote:
> Actually looks really nice, IMHO. Nice shadow rendering on the actual
> units. Not a lot of objects in the background, but of what there was, it
> was detailed. Game play looks like absolute garbage, but it's Ban Dai.
I don't think anyone is implying it looks bad, it looks about the same
as some Xbox games I've really enjoyed. The beef is that it, as usual,
looks nothing like what Sony said it would last year.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:53 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:13 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:05 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:22 pm
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"Jordan" <lundj.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Fred Liken wrote:
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>> Actually looks really nice, IMHO. Nice shadow rendering on the actual
>> units. Not a lot of objects in the background, but of what there was, it
>> was detailed. Game play looks like absolute garbage, but it's Ban Dai.
>
> I don't think anyone is implying it looks bad, it looks about the same
> as some Xbox games I've really enjoyed. The beef is that it, as usual,
> looks nothing like what Sony said it would last year.
>
> - Jordan
>
But he made a very valid comment about the gameplay. It looked rather
uncoordinated and goofy, as if playing it is off timed when making moves.
Maybe the the PS3 is really a retro hardware kit, can't wait until the PS4
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:00 pm
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Tom wrote:
> But he made a very valid comment about the gameplay. It looked rather
> uncoordinated and goofy, as if playing it is off timed when making moves.
> Maybe the the PS3 is really a retro hardware kit, can't wait until the PS4
>
Well, I just wrote that off as being a goofy video playback error. But
yeah, it did look kind of jerky and stilted.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:36 pm
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Air Raid <AirRaid1500 DeleteThis @gmail.com> spake thusly:
> draw your own "gundamn" conclusions, LOL
You seriously have to wonder what Sony was thinking at E3 2005. Did they
honestly think none of their CGI chicanery would come back to bite them in
the ass a year later when people saw what the games really looked like?
Cripes.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:04 pm
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Spaceman wrote:
> HA! wow, piss poor when compared to the target of last year. AND yet another
> sparsely populated PS3 game. it is definitely a trend....
Sparsely populated and the ground texture looked pretty bad too.
Remember Cybermorph on the Jaguar?
/Yeah, OK, it's not that bad... but still!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:34 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:07 pm
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Badass Scotsman wrote:
> "Air Raid" <AirRaid1500.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151668963.891198.59500@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > Mobile Suit Gundam for PlayStation3
> >
> > 2005 pre-rendered 'render target'
> > http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5837&type=wmv&pl=game
> >
> > vs
> >
> > 2006 realtime in-game gameplay:
> > http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10815&type=mov&pl=game
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> >
> > draw your own "gundamn" conclusions, LOL
> >
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> The first E3 video does look trully stunning...too good to be true it would
> seem 
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> Gary.
yep because the E3 2005 video was one of several things
a.) completely pre-rendered
b.) realtime graphics that could only actually run at a few frames per
second on
GeForce 6800 Ultra SLI, or 7800 GTX, but sped up to 60fps for the video
thus PS3 could never pull it off at 60fps even if RSX was a highend
GPU, which it is not.
proof of this is in the actual game footage. >> Stay informed about: PS3 Gundam 'render target' vs actual game....LOL |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:17 pm
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On 2 Jul 2006 12:07:47 -0700, airraid.mach2.5 DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote in message
<1151867267.896293.58920 DeleteThis @p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>:
>yep because the E3 2005 video was one of several things
>
>a.) completely pre-rendered
>b.) realtime graphics that could only actually run at a few frames per
>second on
>GeForce 6800 Ultra SLI, or 7800 GTX, but sped up to 60fps for the video
>
>thus PS3 could never pull it off at 60fps even if RSX was a highend
>GPU, which it is not.
>
>proof of this is in the actual game footage.
But what about this May 10, 2006 post from Blig Merk titled,
"Mobile Suit Gundam playable E3 demo looks *BETTER* than real-time demo
called pre-rendered by xflop fanbitches"? What is it that Blig Merk sees
that nobody else does?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:27 pm
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:05:19 +0100, "David Parkes" <wibble.RemoveThis@wobble.com>
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>The first video looks like an in game movie. You know the type you get
>before each mission
>
yep, but this is the stuff sony were claiming was ingame footage and
which the PS3 is capale of producing.
developers are very quickly showing this to be lies, lies lies and
more lies. which is a shame, because the PS3 is slowly becoming a bit
of a joke, even though i'm sure it will still be a fine machine and
have some great games, sony are shooting themselves in the foot at
every possible opportunity.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:29 pm
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On 30 Jun 2006 10:53:01 -0500, "Fred Liken"
<nothanks.DeleteThis@toocoolforschool.com> wrote:
>"Air Raid" <AirRaid1500.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1151668963.891198.59500@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> Mobile Suit Gundam for PlayStation3
>>
>> 2005 pre-rendered 'render target'
>> http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5837&type=wmv&pl=game
>>
>> vs
>>
>> 2006 realtime in-game gameplay:
>> http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10815&type=mov&pl=game
>>
>> draw your own "gundamn" conclusions, LOL
>
>Actually looks really nice, IMHO. Nice shadow rendering on the actual
>units. Not a lot of objects in the background, but of what there was, it
>was detailed. Game play looks like absolute garbage, but it's Ban Dai.
>
yup, it doesnt look terrible, just miles off the "real gameplay
graphics!!!!" sony claimed from last year.
and as you say, it does look exceedingly sparse. i mean ok, it's in a
desert where there won't be much around really, but lack of onscreen
objects seems to be becoming a recurring trend with PS3 games we're
seeing.
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