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Dormammu

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:06 pm
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Does "Electric Vengence" work if the melee attack is a touch spell?

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Some Guy

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:19 pm
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Dormammu wrote:
> Does "Electric Vengence" work if the melee attack is a touch spell?

By the book, no, but I don't really see any harm in allowing it.

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Jasin Zujovic

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:52 pm
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In article <VSzqg.849$Gv.199@fed1read09>, Dormammu.RemoveThis@thedarkdimension.com
says...

> Does "Electric Vengence" work if the melee attack is a touch spell?

What does it do? Zap people who attack you? Like fire shield only
electricity? Then I'd probably say yes.


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Peter Meilinger

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:10 am
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Jasin Zujovic wrote:
> In article <1152056283.848636.302380.DeleteThis@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> p_meilinger.DeleteThis@hotmail.com says...
>
> > I would rule that you can only zap whatever it is that actually
> > touches you. If a wizard uses a Spectral Hand or his familiar to
> > deliver a touch spell, that's what gets zapped, not the wizard
> > himself.
>
> Of course.

Yeah, but I figured it could stand to be spelled out. It does
make me wonder, though - by the book, would you be
able to zap someone whose Dancing weapon had just
damaged you? Common sense says no, of course,
but that's no fun.

The Dancing description in the SRD says "the person who
activated it is not considered armed with the weapon," which
would imply to me that the spell wouldn't work. But it also
says "In all other respects, it is considered wielded or attended
by the creature for all maneuvers and effects that target items."
That could be taken to mean just stuff like sunder that actually
target the items, and that's probably how it should be taken. But
can we come up with a reading of the rules that would allow this
spell to zap someone with a Dancing weapon but not a spellcaster
who actually touches him?

Pete
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Jasin Zujovic

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:21 am
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In article <1152056283.848636.302380 RemoveThis @b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
p_meilinger RemoveThis @hotmail.com says...

> I would rule that you can only zap whatever it is that actually
> touches you. If a wizard uses a Spectral Hand or his familiar to
> deliver a touch spell, that's what gets zapped, not the wizard
> himself.

Of course.


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