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zeeta6

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:13 am
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Just hit lvl 60 on protection specced warrior. Was wondering in which
order should I be doing the endgame. I belive LBRS should be the first
and the last one should be UBRS. Any input would be greatly
appreciated.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:21 am
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Robin Van Hoof wrote:
> "zeeta6" <bilalnadeem.DeleteThis@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1157642010.526267.31150@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > Just hit lvl 60 on protection specced warrior. Was wondering in which
> > order should I be doing the endgame. I belive LBRS should be the first
> > and the last one should be UBRS. Any input would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
> ZG/AQ20
> MC
> BWL
> Naxx
>
> dunno where AQ40 should be though Smile never been in that freaking place

AQ between BWL and Naxx. The first few bosses are easier or equal to
BWL while Emps, Cthun, Ouru and Viscidious all being harder, imo. Huhu
is hard if you dont have a raid willing to get NR.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:26 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:30 pm
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PV wrote:
> No question about that - AQ20 is a challenge even for a fully equipped tier
> 1 guild. Heck, we've been downing Nefarian every week for the last month,
> and we STILL find Ossirian a pain in the ass. *

So the REVISED order would be:

Dire Maul/scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
ZG
MC
AQ20
BWL
AQ40
Naxx

Correct?

Not that I've seen her, but where does Oxy fit?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:29 pm
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Marco Dieckhoff wrote:

Dire Maul/scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
ZG
Onyxia
MC
AQ20
BWL
AQ40
Naxx

> I think you mean Ony(xia)? Put here to the MC-level.

Done!

Anyone want to tackle sequencing DM/Sch/Stra/LBSR/UBRS? I gather scholo
and strat are roughly equivalent, LBRS comes before UBRS, where does DM
fit in?

In entering the 50s, i've got ZF and ST infront of me, then we'll start
running scholo / strat / LBRS / UBRS into the late 50s until I get a
decent tier 0 set going. At that rate I doubt I will be looking at any
real raids until after Christmas, until then only PUGs.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:55 pm
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"zeeta6" <bilalnadeem.DeleteThis@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1157642010.526267.31150@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Just hit lvl 60 on protection specced warrior. Was wondering in which
> order should I be doing the endgame. I belive LBRS should be the first
> and the last one should be UBRS. Any input would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
ZG/AQ20
MC
BWL
Naxx

dunno where AQ40 should be though Smile never been in that freaking place
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:55 pm
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"Robin Van Hoof" ...
>
> "zeeta6" <bilalnadeem DeleteThis @gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1157642010.526267.31150@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> Just hit lvl 60 on protection specced warrior. Was wondering in which
>> order should I be doing the endgame. I belive LBRS should be the first
>> and the last one should be UBRS. Any input would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
> scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
+ Dire Maul

> ZG/AQ20
> MC
> BWL
AQ40
> Naxx
>

Imho, AQ20 is much harder than ZG.
You can start MC before AQ20.

And LBRS is easier than scholo/strat/DM if you're going in a 10men party.
Harder in a 5men.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:55 pm
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"Marypop" <am_lief.RemoveThis@hotmail.pitiepasdespam.com> writes:
>Imho, AQ20 is much harder than ZG.

No question about that - AQ20 is a challenge even for a fully equipped tier
1 guild. Heck, we've been downing Nefarian every week for the last month,
and we STILL find Ossirian a pain in the ass. *
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like corkscrews.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:03 pm
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burnsdavidj DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> Anyone want to tackle sequencing DM/Sch/Stra/LBSR/UBRS? I gather scholo
> and strat are roughly equivalent, LBRS comes before UBRS, where does DM
> fit in?

I would say that any group of 5(10 for UBRS obviously) level 60's with
some form of tank/dps/healer setup can complete any of those instances
regardless of gear. Groups who fail are a direct result of no skills or
no teamwork.

When you hit level 60, there's no reason for you to feel that you cant
do UBRS because you've still got greens. If you want some form of order
I'd venture(easy to hard)

DME
LBRS(10 man!)
Scholo/Strat-live or dead
DMN
DMW(For these 2 its especially hard because they're not popuar and
people tend to not know the encounters/layout)
45 Min Baron
UBRS (I haven't actually been in there since they capped it at 10 man
though)
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Marco Dieckhoff

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:55 pm
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On 2006-09-07, burnsdavidj RemoveThis @yahoo.com <burnsdavidj RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> PV wrote:
>> No question about that - AQ20 is a challenge even for a fully equipped tier
>> 1 guild. Heck, we've been downing Nefarian every week for the last month,
>> and we STILL find Ossirian a pain in the ass. *
>
> So the REVISED order would be:
>
> Dire Maul/scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
> ZG
> MC
> AQ20
> BWL
> AQ40
> Naxx
>
> Correct?
>
> Not that I've seen her, but where does Oxy fit?

I think you mean Ony(xia)? Put here to the MC-level.

Needs a little practice, but it's not that hard.

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Robin Van Hoof

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:55 pm
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<burnsdavidj RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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> Marco Dieckhoff wrote:
>
> Dire Maul/scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
> ZG
> Onyxia
> MC
> AQ20
> BWL
> AQ40
> Naxx
>
> > I think you mean Ony(xia)? Put here to the MC-level.
>
> Done!
>
> Anyone want to tackle sequencing DM/Sch/Stra/LBSR/UBRS? I gather scholo
> and strat are roughly equivalent, LBRS comes before UBRS, where does DM
> fit in?

I think DM depends on the part of DM you do Smile
Kinda find west harder then east Smile

>
> In entering the 50s, i've got ZF and ST infront of me, then we'll start
> running scholo / strat / LBRS / UBRS into the late 50s until I get a
> decent tier 0 set going. At that rate I doubt I will be looking at any
> real raids until after Christmas, until then only PUGs.
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:55 pm
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zeeta6 wrote:
> Just hit lvl 60 on protection specced warrior. Was wondering in which
> order should I be doing the endgame. I belive LBRS should be the first
> and the last one should be UBRS. Any input would be greatly
> appreciated.
>

Weeeell....

Basically the other answers are correct, I guess... But my guess would
be that you do the instances as you can find groups.

First LBRS/UBRS/BRT/Scholomance/Stratholme in the first place, to get
T0. Dire Maul somewhere in between.
Not in that order. Just as you can find groups, which in case of LBRS
can prove to be a pain in the a...
Be glad you are a warrie and no paladin. Try find a group for the
emperor repeatedly to get those darn boots... (or was it the gloves?
Can't remember...).
Ended up doing up to the emperor with my warrie and then switching to my
paladin...

Then the Rest, i.e. Zul Gurub, MC, Naxx, AQ, Blackwing Lair and whatever
else will come...
Again, not in any order, although here there is at least some order to
it, because you might need MC-equipment to go to Blackwing Lair. And so on.

Tokay

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:55 pm
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burnsdavidj.RemoveThis@yahoo.com writes:
>So the REVISED order would be:
>
>Dire Maul/scholo/strath/LBSR/UBRS
>ZG
>MC
>AQ20
>BWL
>AQ40
>Naxx

That's reasonable, but you can skip around a bit. We were trying
bosses in AQ20 well before getting to Nefarian (and got Ossirian down the
same week we did our first full clear of BWL). ZG is actually a bit harder
than Molten Core in my opinion, but since it only requires 20 it makes
sense to try some of it first. With the exception of resistances, the ZG
quest gear is as good or better than your tier 1 set - I rarely wear my
felheart robe after getting the demoniac's set. ZG is a great place to gear
up for a serious attempt at larger raids.

>Not that I've seen her, but where does Ony fit?

The quest to get the key to Onyxia is long and annoying, but some parts of
it are soloable - best to get started on that about level 54 - you will
pick up a ton of experience doing it! On a difficulty basis, you'll
generally want to start doing it when you find you can clear the first
couple bosses in Molten Core. There are really only two complications to
the fight - your tanks need a LOT of fire resist since they will get
breathed on very often. The rest of the raid will benefit from fire resist
too, at least initially when you'll have issues with "deep breaths"
(lay on more DoTs if you get these, it seems to help) and aggro stealing,
which can send Onyxia running all over the place biting squishie's heads
off. Also, fearing of the main tank can be a killer - Alliance uses
dwarf priests for fear warding.

There are only a handful of (identical) trashmobs before you're in the lair,
and provided someone doesn't get tailwhipped into whelp eggs, you have
only Onyxia herself to focus on. Not only that, she drops Tier *2*
headpieces, lots of other great items, and you get to display her head on
the entrance to your main capital city (Ogrimmar/Stormwind). *
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:26 am
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> Any input would be greatly

When I hit 60, I found really useful this link:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Instances_by_Level

At the same "level" (for example, Strat and Scholo), it depends on your
play style.

Defeating the Baron in Stratholme in a party of 5 gives great
satisfaction Smile

Bye,

Az
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:41 am
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Marypop a écrit :

> "Hornet"...
> >
> > When you hit level 60, there's no reason for you to feel that you cant
> > do UBRS because you've still got greens. If you want some form of order
> > I'd venture(easy to hard)
>
> as a tank ?
> you mean main tank ?
> HAHAHAHA
>
> definitely no.
> The beast and drakki really hit !
> Would be too much work for the healers, very difficult for them to keep you
> alive.
>
> You can go there as second warrior but not as main one.

What kind of armour/health/def/FR do you think is required?

I'd like to see if I can reach the reqs with a small (~100g) AH
investment, through solo high level questing, and using ZF/Maraudon/ST
gear.
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