Onyxia Lair help

> Is there anything special I need to know for the trash, eg:

I've read this one somewhere. I apologize for not letting the original
author to be referred in here.
This is, BTW, the tactic we use in our guild.

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Onyxian Warders
These are the "trash mobs" of the Onyxia's Lair instance. When you zone
into the Lair, there will be 4 Onyxian Warders guarding the passage to
Onyxia's chamber. Three of the Warders patrol back and forth over a
long, winding stretch of corridor, and another waits near the entrance
to Onyxia's inner chamber.

Each Warder is a "raid elite" mob, with levels ranging from 60+ to 63+.
The only appreciable differences between levels are how much hurt they
put out, and how much they can take before going down. Their basic
abilities are the same:

1) Single-target physical attack.

2) A frontal "cleave" type physical AoE attack.

3) A moderately large radius "fire nova" AoE fire magic attack.

The last two AoEs are quite mean. So mean, in fact, that almost anybody
but a Main Tank getting heavy healing support will die gloriously
quickly if they get within range of an Onyxian Warder's AoE attacks.

As such, the approach to fighting Onyxian Warders is quite simple:

1) A single MT gains aggro from a Warder, by body or ranged
pulling, and ensures that he positions the Warder far enough from the
main raid group that they are outside of the AoE effects.

2) MT healers keep the MT alive.

3) All other raid members hold fire until the MT has gained
sufficient aggro to ensure he will not lose it.

4) Once the MT has sufficient aggro control, all other raiders
are given an attack order, whereupon they burn down the Onyxian Warder
with ranged attacks only.

Due to the devastating nature of the Warder's AoE attacks, it is vital
that only the MT be within range of them; otherwise the healers' mana
will be spread too thin to keep the raid alive.

While engaging the Onyxian Warders, it is necessary for the MT to stay
within LOS and healing range of his healers, but (as mentioned before)
far enough away that the raid will not be killed by Warder AoEs. This
can prove tricky, given that the corridor leading to Onyxia's Lair
twists and turns a bit, and includes roller-coaster dips and rises that
can block LOS and make certain spots very bad choices to tank a Warder
in.

If you are the current MT, you must stay aware of the position of the
MT healers. Do not break LOS if you can avoid it; do not run too far
ahead. The opposite also holds. If you are an MT healer, move up to
maintain range to the MT, and be ready to reposition quickly to stay in
range for heals if the MT or Warder make any sudden moves, for whatever
reason.
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Kedge wrote:
> I'm going into Onyxia's Lair tonght with my guild for the first time.
>
> I've read a number of strategies for killing Onyxia herself, but have
> found nothing on the trash mobs in there.
>
> Is there anything special I need to know for the trash, eg:
>
> Lava Surgers in MC do knockback
> BloodDrinkers in ZG ranged DPS on them only.
>
> etc etc

Ony trash is relatively easy - only 4-5 mobs and if timed correctly,
all single pulls. They have a nasty fire AOE w/ a range of ~20 yards
which can easily kill clothies if they're in range. Actually, treating
them like blooddrinkers is a good idea... so either:

- keep the whole raid except the tank at range and use range DPS only,
or...

- stunlock them (pally stuns, rogue stuns work excellently here)

I recommend the stunlock method if you have enough pallies and rogues,
since the warders can't do their fire attack if stunned.

Watch the patrol paths; try not to pull two at a time. If you do pull
another, make sure to have an offtank pick it up quickly and pull it
away from the raid (and ideally away from the first warder being tanked
as well).

Hope this helps.

Dendrax
<Fellowship of Azeroth>
US Kargath
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Dendrax wrote:
> Kedge wrote:
> > I'm going into Onyxia's Lair tonght with my guild for the first time.
> >
> > I've read a number of strategies for killing Onyxia herself, but have
> > found nothing on the trash mobs in there.
> >
> > Is there anything special I need to know for the trash, eg:
> >
> > Lava Surgers in MC do knockback
> > BloodDrinkers in ZG ranged DPS on them only.
> >
> > etc etc
>
> Ony trash is relatively easy - only 4-5 mobs and if timed correctly,
> all single pulls. They have a nasty fire AOE w/ a range of ~20 yards
> which can easily kill clothies if they're in range. Actually, treating
> them like blooddrinkers is a good idea... so either:
>
> - keep the whole raid except the tank at range and use range DPS only,
> or...
>
> - stunlock them (pally stuns, rogue stuns work excellently here)
>
> I recommend the stunlock method if you have enough pallies and rogues,
> since the warders can't do their fire attack if stunned.
>
> Watch the patrol paths; try not to pull two at a time. If you do pull
> another, make sure to have an offtank pick it up quickly and pull it
> away from the raid (and ideally away from the first warder being tanked
> as well).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Dendrax
> <Fellowship of Azeroth>
> US Kargath

I'm the Raid Leader of the guild, only a couple of ppl have been there
before (guild first hehe) I've taken advice from the ppl who have been
before, just looking for a heads up..


cheers for your advice guys... I'll let you know how it goes tonight )
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On 21 Dec 2006 04:08:03 -0800, "Kedge" <Richard.Harvey RemoveThis @arval.co.uk> wrote:

>Hello
>
>I'm going into Onyxia's Lair tonght with my guild for the first time.
>
>I've read a number of strategies for killing Onyxia herself, but have
>found nothing on the trash mobs in there.
>
>Is there anything special I need to know for the trash, eg:
>
>Lava Surgers in MC do knockback
>BloodDrinkers in ZG ranged DPS on them only.

The trash mobs are all the same before you reach Onyxia herself, just 5 or
6 dragonkin, all single pulls, all ranged damage only. Basically stay with
the main group of people and the tank will bring them back to you, then you
use whatever ranged abilities you have. I've only gone as a rogue so I
don't know about any details for casters, I just shoot my bow

Good luck with her!
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"Kedge" <Richard.Harvey.DeleteThis@arval.co.uk> writes:
>I'm going into Onyxia's Lair tonght with my guild for the first time.
>
>I've read a number of strategies for killing Onyxia herself, but have
>found nothing on the trash mobs in there.

Other than the whelps, which if your raid is paying attention isn't a
factor, there exactly *4* trash mobs in the lair, dragonkin with a fire
pulse. Focus fire, with good fire resist on the tank, and they're all dead
inside of 5 minutes or less. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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In <1166702883.735017.115470.RemoveThis@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> "Kedge" <Richard.Harvey.RemoveThis@arval.co.uk> writes:

> Is there anything special I need to know for the trash, eg:

As others have said, just have everyone but the MT stay back and range
DPS them down.

The very first pull can be a bit tricky, as there are two dragonkin that
patrol near each other, and you can get them both if you're not careful.

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