Odds at getting the right # of sockets.

John wrote:
> I've been using a lawbringer in a battle sword for a long while now. I
> have spent many a game looking for a nice 3-socket one-hand sword that
> is better. All I ever find is ones and twos or fours and fives. Well
> today I found a nice Mythical Sword and I do have just enough strength
> to wield it (I have 149 and it needs 147). If I ask Larzuk to add
> sockets to it what are the odds he'll put three? I remember reading on
> some web page out it, but cant find it now. I figured I would make
> another lawbringer out of it. It's cheap, I have the runes, and I like
> it (lol).
>
> DR_WHO useast soft ladder

Likely will be 3 (max). However:

I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).
Strangely one of them got 3 sockets. I always thought items
dropped in Hell always get max sockets. It seems exceptions do
happen. I don't know the exact formula behind item-socketing.

Depending on what char is using the Lawbringer, Mythical sword
may not be the ideal choice, mainly because of it's base speed
and range. I usually pick up white swords that can be
marketable, and this is one of the swords I don't pick up.

If you can survive, maybe you'd want to hold on for a little
while and hope a pb or cryptic sword will pop up tomorrow?

Patrick Vervoorn's suggestion is also sound and worth considering.

Basically, any exceptional/elite unique that fall way behind
elite runewords (that include all swords may be except
Azurewrath, all bows except WF) can be bought for p.gems or some
low-mid level runes.

I sold a Doombringer for six p.gems since CB didn't want it and
I didn't like playing melee barb. I also sold a spare Eaglehorn
for 9 p.gems but sold a RavenClaw for 25 p.gems (cheap, as
RavenClaw usually goes for a Pul).

Bing
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Bingain wrote:


[snip]

> I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
> mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).

What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling white
Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling them myself if
it's worth-while.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.
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~misfit~ wrote:
> Bingain wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
> > mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).
>
> What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling white
> Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling them myself if
> it's worth-while.
>

Hels and spirit runes are pretty easy to find runing the countess. You
could try your luck at rolling a perfect spirit, that'll net you some
highs for sure.
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In article <452218f3.DeleteThis@news2.actrix.gen.nz>,
~misfit~ <misfit61nz.DeleteThis@yahookers.com.au> wrote:
>Bingain wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
>> mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).
>
>What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling white
>Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling them myself if
>it's worth-while.

I don't know what Bing sells 'em for, but I sell Monarchs I cannot/will
not use myself for some pgems each. Usually I aim for 6pgs, sometimes more
if the buyer offers more. Semi-officially, they're priced at Lem on SC
Europe Ladder, but I don't think that's entirely valid anymore.

I keep 148def non-superior and any superior Monarchs for my own use
(rerolling Spirit until I get a 35fcr one). If I run out of 148def ones,
I'll perhaps use a 147 or 146def one, but below that: away it goes for
pgems!

Regards,

Patrick.
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Bingain wrote:

> Economy on USEast HCL is rather ridiculous. Monarch or even 4
> socket swords can sell between Lem to Um. Perfect Spirit shield
> can fetch you an Ist or HR (Ist/Mal is priced similar to HR
> here). I suppose the reason is that HR is too easy for most of
> them, and spending one on something they want is more time
> economical than go find one.
>
> There are not many popular items that are below HR nowadays here.

That is rather ridiculous. I've been planning for a while to return to
HC if/when the Ladder resets. One reason for this was that, although I
barely do any trading, I figured that if I was absolutely desperate and
couldn't find some item on my own, I could at least go to the Trade
Channel and ask to trade for something like a SoE without getting
laughed out of the Channel. I'm not sure why I assumed HC trading would
be any different than what I see in SC. Well, so much for that idea.

--
Jill
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~misfit~ wrote:

> What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling white
> Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling them myself if
> it's worth-while.
>

Economy on USEast HCL is rather ridiculous. Monarch or even 4
socket swords can sell between Lem to Um. Perfect Spirit shield
can fetch you an Ist or HR (Ist/Mal is priced similar to HR
here). I suppose the reason is that HR is too easy for most of
them, and spending one on something they want is more time
economical than go find one.

There are not many popular items that are below HR nowadays here.


Bing
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neithskye wrote:

>>There are not many popular items that are below HR nowadays here.
>
>
> That is rather ridiculous. I've been planning for a while to return to
> HC if/when the Ladder resets. One reason for this was that, although I
> barely do any trading, I figured that if I was absolutely desperate and
> couldn't find some item on my own, I could at least go to the Trade
> Channel and ask to trade for something like a SoE without getting
> laughed out of the Channel. I'm not sure why I assumed HC trading would
> be any different than what I see in SC. Well, so much for that idea.
>
> --

Well, I suppose it depends. I came back about 2 months ago, and
it's been, like, more than a year since the current ladder
started. So most everyone has dozens of ordinary stuff. If
ladder is rest tonight, SoE will be worth a ton tomorrow.

Like I commented in another thread. There are many rich HC
players who don't know as much about the game as we had
expected. Very few I had talked with know the composition of
vipers' green cloud. Duped runes have ruined HC as badly as it
does for SC.

Only exception is, prices of good items are rising by the day.
There are hammerdins who die everyday to Vipers/Nihlly. There
are godly smiters die in UT everyday. Not to mention other
casualties.

Bing

PS: I do see people selling SoE now and then and nobody laughs.
I am usually the one who gets laughed at when I offer unid Tal's
ring for HRs.
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Bingain wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>
> > What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling
> > white Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling
> > them myself if it's worth-while.
> >
>
> Economy on USEast HCL is rather ridiculous. Monarch or even 4
> socket swords can sell between Lem to Um. Perfect Spirit shield
> can fetch you an Ist or HR (Ist/Mal is priced similar to HR
> here). I suppose the reason is that HR is too easy for most of
> them, and spending one on something they want is more time
> economical than go find one.
>
> There are not many popular items that are below HR nowadays here.

Ok, thanks. I saw a couple trading games last night with 4 soc Monarchs
going for 1HR on USWSCL. (Checked after I saw your post and then I found
one). Might be worth picking up and rushing mules for socket quest. I see
about 6 or 7 white Monarchs a week, I could be rich!
--
Shaun.
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Patrick Vervoorn wrote:
> In article <452218f3.TakeThisOut@news2.actrix.gen.nz>,
> ~misfit~ <misfit61nz.TakeThisOut@yahookers.com.au> wrote:
> > Bingain wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
> > > mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).
> >
> > What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling
> > white Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling
> > them myself if it's worth-while.
>
> I don't know what Bing sells 'em for, but I sell Monarchs I
> cannot/will not use myself for some pgems each. Usually I aim for
> 6pgs, sometimes more if the buyer offers more. Semi-officially,
> they're priced at Lem on SC Europe Ladder, but I don't think that's
> entirely valid anymore.
>
> I keep 148def non-superior and any superior Monarchs for my own use
> (rerolling Spirit until I get a 35fcr one). If I run out of 148def
> ones, I'll perhaps use a 147 or 146def one, but below that: away it
> goes for pgems!

Thanks Patrick, handy to know.
--
Shaun.
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Cavadure wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
> > Bingain wrote:
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I have found about 5 white monarch shields in hell. I rushed
> > > mules to socket them (4 sox monarch has a decent price).
> >
> > What do you mean by a decent price Bing? I've just been selling
> > white Monarchs to Larzuk, I might start socketing them and selling
> > them myself if it's worth-while.
> >
>
> Hels and spirit runes are pretty easy to find runing the countess.
> You could try your luck at rolling a perfect spirit, that'll net you
> some highs for sure.

Good point. I'll look at trading games and work out which is best return for
time spent. I think maybe empty 4 sockets could work out better in that
respect.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.
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