Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:48:37 +0000, Mark Morrison <blank RemoveThis @aol.com>
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>On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:24:57 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
><hector RemoveThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
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>>Don't forget backing up a ledge to bait certain types of "lunging"
>>enemies, only to time their lunge, side strafe out of the way and
>>watch them go flying off the cliff without any intervention on your
>>part!
>
>I'm currently replaying it, with more points into the spells (last
>time I was an almost pure stealth/combat mix).
>
>It's fun to wait while an enemy charges you, then ice the floor when
>he gets close. He sldes, stops right in front of you, just in time to
>get a sword to the heart


Try and do THAT in HL2! Booyah.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:25:42 +0000, Mark Morrison <blank RemoveThis @aol.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:29:14 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
><hector RemoveThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
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>>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:27:08 -0500, Terry <kilowatt RemoveThis @charter.net>
>>wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:33:45 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
>>><hector RemoveThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
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>>>>On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:51:20 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
>>>><dbateman RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>On Feb 4, 8:55 am, Sin Your Gone Salad
>>>>><hec... RemoveThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:36 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <dbate... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> >  Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Half Life 2 had player classes, spells, experience points, leveling
>>>>>> up and so forth, yes that would be true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's why I said "in a D&D world." Dark Messiah is on rails,
>>>>>which should completely remove it from the same category as Oblivion.
>>>>
>>>>It's true that it's on rails but not as much so as HL2. When you said
>>>>in a "D&D world", it gave the impression (to me anyway) that you were
>>>>referring only to the theme of the game. I would say Dark Messiah is
>>>>more of a half-way point between a rails shooter like HL2 and Oblivion
>>>>than being closer to HL2. Oblivion does have an open world and is
>>>>much closer to a true RPG, but some RPG purists complained it was too
>>>>much of a hack-n-slash with the combat, and that the adaptive
>>>>difficulty (making it easier at lower levels) took away the essence of
>>>>what an RPG is.
>>>>
>>>>Either way, I'm not really an RPG purist myself, but the 3 games the
>>>>OP asked about are probably 3 of my all time favorites, so I got the
>>>>impression his likes/dislikes would be similar, and if that's the case
>>>>he would love Dark Messiah.
>>>
>>>I think you might be right, but I can't get the demo to run on my
>>>machine.
>>>
>>>
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>>Well, you won't get same kind of the satisfaction of gathering gold /
>>etc like in a regular RPG.. but there are some interesting twists,
>>like gathering blocks of certain types of metal, and taking them into
>>a blacksmiths shop, melting them down yourself, pouring the molten
>>metal into the mold, etc to make special swords.
>>
>>Very well done.
>
>And exploring is rewarded, with some nice armour and weapons in
>hard-to-get-to places - and secret stashes, too.


And one really nice weapon near the end in a secret stash.

John Lewis