Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
<hector DeleteThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt DeleteThis @charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>
>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.

I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
came out.

Maybe I will give it another try.

Thanks
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:20:42 -0500, Terry <kilowatt DeleteThis @charter.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
><hector DeleteThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt DeleteThis @charter.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>>
>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>
>I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
>came out.
>
>Maybe I will give it another try.
>
>Thanks

It seems to me the original demo and the released game had a few bugs
that were deal breakers for some. I got it after the first patch I
think so I never saw a single bug, through the single player campaign
or playing online.

Great game -- not a true RPG but over the top fun anyway.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Feb 3, 5:29 pm, Sin Your Gone Salad
<hec....DeleteThis@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:27:16 GMT, "Sleepy" <nos....DeleteThis@here.com> wrote:
>
> >"Terry" <kilow....DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
> >news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
> >> <hec....DeleteThis@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilow....DeleteThis@charter.net>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>
> >>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>
> >> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
> >> came out.
>
> >> Maybe I will give it another try.
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really* like
> >the three
> >you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds' though I
> >advise picking them up
> >for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of course
> >the 'Shivering Isles'
> >expansion for Oblivion is a must.
>
> Wasn't Dark Messiah made by the same folks that created Arx Fatalis? I
> think pretty much all the games he mentioned are more on the side of
> combat first, RPG second, so in that light Dark Messiah was the
> closest one I could think of.
>
> I haven't tried Gothic but I probably will.


Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.

I'd suggest Gothic 2 (3?), maybe The Witcher, and if you're not a
graphics junkie Morrowind is an older game that some like better than
Oblivion (not me.)
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt DeleteThis @charter.net>
wrote:

>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?

First person fantasy RPGs? How about Gothic 1-3. They're not quite first
person although you can switch to that mode if you want. Hmmmm...I think
it switches back to 3rd person for combat.
--
Michael Cecil
http://macecil.googlepages.com/index.htm
http://macecil.googlepages.com/safehex.htm
http://macecil.googlepages.com/hackingvista.htm
Chuck Norris: Afraid of NOTHING, except John McCain's 95 year-old mother
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On 4 ÆÅ×, 09:13, Spalls Hurgenson <yoi....DeleteThis@ebalu.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilow....DeleteThis@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>
> The Gothic series should be your next stop. Gothic 2 is generally
> considered to be the best of the three; Gothic 1 (my personal
> favorite, but what do I know) has too many rough edges; Gothic 3 tries
> to do too much and just never reaches its peak. But I recommend
> playing all three. I believe there is a DVD version available now that
> has all three games in one box.
>
> You may also wish to try The Vampire Bloodlines game. It's not a
> favorite of mine (largely because I just don't care for the genre) but
> it's a well-put together game (well, after you apply the fan patches).
>
> The Witcher also seems to have a lot of fans. Personally, I didn't
> think it was "all that" but maybe you'll like it. Many do.

I highly recommend Ultima V: Lazarus
http://lazarus.planetdungeonsiege.gamespy.com/

This game has soul that Oblivion lacked
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

"Terry" <kilowatt.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
> <hector.TakeThisOut@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt.TakeThisOut@charter.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>>
>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>
> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
> came out.
>
> Maybe I will give it another try.
>
> Thanks

Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really* like
the three
you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds' though I
advise picking them up
for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of course
the 'Shivering Isles'
expansion for Oblivion is a must.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:27:16 GMT, "Sleepy" <nospam.TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Terry" <kilowatt.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
>> <hector.TakeThisOut@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt.TakeThisOut@charter.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>>>
>>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>>
>> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
>> came out.
>>
>> Maybe I will give it another try.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really* like
>the three
>you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds' though I
>advise picking them up
>for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of course
>the 'Shivering Isles'
>expansion for Oblivion is a must.

Wasn't Dark Messiah made by the same folks that created Arx Fatalis? I
think pretty much all the games he mentioned are more on the side of
combat first, RPG second, so in that light Dark Messiah was the
closest one I could think of.

I haven't tried Gothic but I probably will.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Feb 4, 5:13 am, Spalls Hurgenson <yoi... DeleteThis @ebalu.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilow... DeleteThis @charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>
> The Gothic series should be your next stop. Gothic 2 is generally
> considered to be the best of the three; Gothic 1 (my personal
> favorite, but what do I know) has too many rough edges; Gothic 3 tries
> to do too much and just never reaches its peak. But I recommend
> playing all three. I believe there is a DVD version available now that
> has all three games in one box.

Absolutely, Gothic 2 is just stunningly good. Get the texture pack
too.

> You may also wish to try The Vampire Bloodlines game. It's not a
> favorite of mine (largely because I just don't care for the genre) but
> it's a well-put together game (well, after you apply the fan patches).

It is definitely a surprisingly good game with a fantastic atmosphere.

> The Witcher also seems to have a lot of fans. Personally, I didn't
> think it was "all that" but maybe you'll like it. Many do.

As a big time LG fan who thinks that Underworld 1 is the best game
ever, I would also recommend Wizards & Warriors and Wizardy 8 (+ Might
& Magic 6 and 7).
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilowatt RemoveThis @charter.net>
wrote:

>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?

The Gothic series should be your next stop. Gothic 2 is generally
considered to be the best of the three; Gothic 1 (my personal
favorite, but what do I know) has too many rough edges; Gothic 3 tries
to do too much and just never reaches its peak. But I recommend
playing all three. I believe there is a DVD version available now that
has all three games in one box.

You may also wish to try The Vampire Bloodlines game. It's not a
favorite of mine (largely because I just don't care for the genre) but
it's a well-put together game (well, after you apply the fan patches).

The Witcher also seems to have a lot of fans. Personally, I didn't
think it was "all that" but maybe you'll like it. Many do.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:36 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
<dbateman.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 3, 5:29 pm, Sin Your Gone Salad
><hec....RemoveThis@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:27:16 GMT, "Sleepy" <nos....RemoveThis@here.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Terry" <kilow....RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
>> >news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
>> >> <hec....RemoveThis@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilow....RemoveThis@charter.net>
>> >>>wrote:
>>
>> >>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>>
>> >>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>>
>> >> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
>> >> came out.
>>
>> >> Maybe I will give it another try.
>>
>> >> Thanks
>>
>> >Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really* like
>> >the three
>> >you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds' though I
>> >advise picking them up
>> >for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of course
>> >the 'Shivering Isles'
>> >expansion for Oblivion is a must.
>>
>> Wasn't Dark Messiah made by the same folks that created Arx Fatalis? I
>> think pretty much all the games he mentioned are more on the side of
>> combat first, RPG second, so in that light Dark Messiah was the
>> closest one I could think of.
>>
>> I haven't tried Gothic but I probably will.
>
>
> Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.

If Half Life 2 had player classes, spells, experience points, leveling
up and so forth, yes that would be true.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:55:53 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
<hector.TakeThisOut@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:36 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
><dbateman.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 3, 5:29 pm, Sin Your Gone Salad
>><hec....TakeThisOut@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:27:16 GMT, "Sleepy" <nos....TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Terry" <kilow....TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
>>> >> <hec....TakeThisOut@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry <kilow....TakeThisOut@charter.net>
>>> >>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type please?
>>>
>>> >>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>>>
>>> >> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
>>> >> came out.
>>>
>>> >> Maybe I will give it another try.
>>>
>>> >> Thanks
>>>
>>> >Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really* like
>>> >the three
>>> >you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds' though I
>>> >advise picking them up
>>> >for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of course
>>> >the 'Shivering Isles'
>>> >expansion for Oblivion is a must.
>>>
>>> Wasn't Dark Messiah made by the same folks that created Arx Fatalis? I
>>> think pretty much all the games he mentioned are more on the side of
>>> combat first, RPG second, so in that light Dark Messiah was the
>>> closest one I could think of.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried Gothic but I probably will.
>>
>>
>> Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.
>
>If Half Life 2 had player classes, spells, experience points, leveling
>up and so forth, yes that would be true.


Dark Messiah still didn't work on my machine.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

On Feb 4, 8:55 am, Sin Your Gone Salad
<hec....RemoveThis@freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:36 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
>
> <dbate....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.
>
> If Half Life 2 had player classes, spells, experience points, leveling
> up and so forth, yes that would be true.

Yes, that's why I said "in a D&D world." Dark Messiah is on rails,
which should completely remove it from the same category as Oblivion.
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld. 

"Terry" <kilowatt DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
news:siaeq3hj80n5fgtgaoaq6gsppaeqoj9mb9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:55:53 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
> <hector DeleteThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:36 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Stabby"
>><dbateman DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Feb 3, 5:29 pm, Sin Your Gone Salad
>>><hec... DeleteThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:27:16 GMT, "Sleepy" <nos... DeleteThis @here.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Terry" <kilow... DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:vgfcq3hmncpg400dcrg4e13t46t7j9jch0@4ax.com...
>>>> >> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:15 -0500, Sin Your Gone Salad
>>>> >> <hec... DeleteThis @freetacosforeveryone.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Terry
>>>> >>><kilow... DeleteThis @charter.net>
>>>> >>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>Could someone suggest some more titles for games of this type
>>>> >>>>please?
>>>>
>>>> >>>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>>>>
>>>> >> I coudn't even get the demo to install on my machine when it first
>>>> >> came out.
>>>>
>>>> >> Maybe I will give it another try.
>>>>
>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> >Dark Messiah is more of combat game with RPG elements - not *really*
>>>> >like
>>>> >the three
>>>> >you mentioned. More fitting might be 'Gothic III' and 'Two Worlds'
>>>> >though I
>>>> >advise picking them up
>>>> >for a £10 each and no more as neither has the quality of Oblivion. Of
>>>> >course
>>>> >the 'Shivering Isles'
>>>> >expansion for Oblivion is a must.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't Dark Messiah made by the same folks that created Arx Fatalis? I
>>>> think pretty much all the games he mentioned are more on the side of
>>>> combat first, RPG second, so in that light Dark Messiah was the
>>>> closest one I could think of.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried Gothic but I probably will.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dark Messiah is Half Life 2 in a D&D world.
>>
>>If Half Life 2 had player classes, spells, experience points, leveling
>>up and so forth, yes that would be true.
>
>
> Dark Messiah still didn't work on my machine.

You're not missing much. It's just a combat game. I know Witcher isn't a
first person RPG, but I can tell you as someone who loved Oblivion, it's
damn near equal to it in story and atmosphere. I'd recommend the import
edition, unless you don't mind the censorship.

turk
--
"I can press when there needs to be pressed; I can hold hands when there
needs to be -- hold hands." --George W. Bush, on how he can contribute to
the Middle East peace process, Washington, D.C., Jan. 4, 2008
 >> Stay informed about: Oblivion , Arx Fatalis, Ultima Underworld.