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Darin Johnson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:33 pm
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I'm new to CoH and have some probably obvious questions.
I'm not finding lots of good info on the net, at least not well
localized.

First is, what good guides are there out there? By good,
I'm hoping for something similar to WoWWiki for WoW.
I've seen Paragon Wiki but it's very incomplete, and doesn't
have newbie advice, build advice, etc. Even the official site
is very lacking in useful information. (it would be handy to
see pictures of the powers to help decide what looks good)

When a group fights an enemy, do all members get
inspirations, or does only one group member get one?
How are inspirations and influence divided up? If there
is a group, how is XP divided up? If my friend is a few
levels higher than me, will I catch up to his level faster
by soloing or grouping with him?

Is there anyway to chat with someone who isn't in
your SG or friends list except by typing in the full
name? Ie, if someone in a help tab asks for something,
is there a quick way for me to respond, or do I have
to type in the full "/tell Long Hero Name, ..."?

Is there a way to get a notification if one of my friends
logs in or out?

I've noticed that everytime I create or restart a character,
that my keybindings and settings are all reset to the
defaults. Can I make these stick somehow?

What is common etiquette in the game? I've had lots
of players randomly invite me to groups, without ever
first asking me if it was OK. This is considered rude
in some games, but maybe it's just culture shock and
this is normal polite behavior in CoH?

How much does it cost to redo costumes at ICON, when
I get that high a level? Is it cheap enough that I can just
not worry, or do I have to budget for it? I've restarted a
character a few times just to change constumes a bit.

Are there more costume choices later, other than cloaks
and wings? I've noticed character types that just don't seem
to be possible with what I've seen at the start. Ie, werewolves.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:43 pm
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On Aug 27, 3:33 pm, Darin Johnson <da....TakeThisOut@usa.net> wrote:
> I'm new to CoH and have some probably obvious questions.
> I'm not finding lots of good info on the net, at least not well
> localized.
>
> First is, what good guides are there out there? By good,
> I'm hoping for something similar to WoWWiki for WoW.
> I've seen Paragon Wiki but it's very incomplete, and doesn't
> have newbie advice, build advice, etc. Even the official site
> is very lacking in useful information. (it would be handy to
> see pictures of the powers to help decide what looks good)

I'll defer to others out there on this one, but Google is your friend.

>
> When a group fights an enemy, do all members get
> inspirations, or does only one group member get one?
> How are inspirations and influence divided up? If there
> is a group, how is XP divided up? If my friend is a few
> levels higher than me, will I catch up to his level faster
> by soloing or grouping with him?

Everyone gets inspires. I know that you get XP relative to the
villians you fight but beyond that, I don't know.
I know you get more exp per target when you solo, but you get exp
faster when you team up.


> Is there anyway to chat with someone who isn't in
> your SG or friends list except by typing in the full
> name? Ie, if someone in a help tab asks for something,
> is there a quick way for me to respond, or do I have
> to type in the full "/tell Long Hero Name, ..."?

Yup, or broadcast back on the same channel.
>
> Is there a way to get a notification if one of my friends
> logs in or out?

The friends list tells you who is online when you enter a new zone.
>
> I've noticed that everytime I create or restart a character,
> that my keybindings and settings are all reset to the
> defaults. Can I make these stick somehow?

They are tied to the character, so new character, new set of binds.
Shenanigunner has one of the best set of bind guides out there and you
could build a set of binds then load them with each character.

>
> What is common etiquette in the game? I've had lots
> of players randomly invite me to groups, without ever
> first asking me if it was OK. This is considered rude
> in some games, but maybe it's just culture shock and
> this is normal polite behavior in CoH?

You have a "Do Not Accept Invites" setting on the "find members"
window.
Otherwise, even when you are not currently looking you will sometimes
get invites. If the person sees you they may invite you without
checking your status first.
Its normal behavior. Not nessasarily polite. Its considered polite
to send a Tell (private message) before you send an invite. Hence the
PST. (Please send Tell).
For example if I am about to start a level 25 mish and I see some
level 22-25 players that are looking for missions, I will send a
private message "Hey, starting a Circle of Thorns (CoT) mission (mish)
and its level 25-26, are you interested? (Or CoT lvl 25 mish,
interested?) Then I would send them an invite. If they want to join
up, they already know what is the mission. And they can also decline,
knowing what they are missing (another exciting cave mission). Smile

>
> How much does it cost to redo costumes at ICON, when
> I get that high a level? Is it cheap enough that I can just
> not worry, or do I have to budget for it? I've restarted a
> character a few times just to change constumes a bit.

Once you have your costume and powerset tweaked to your satisfaction,
you have 20 levels to earn before you get an extra slot for a
secondary costume, and there is a "Cape Mission" you can take to earn
the right to wear a cape. See Serge in Steel Canyon and he'll get you
started.

>
> Are there more costume choices later, other than cloaks
> and wings? I've noticed character types that just don't seem
> to be possible with what I've seen at the start. Ie, werewolves.
>
> --
> Darin Johnson

You have to have had a membership for several months to earn the
wings.

Werewolf is definitely do-able, especially if you have two costumes to
switch between.

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Xocyll

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:28 pm
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Darin Johnson <darin.RemoveThis@usa.net> looked up from reading the entrails of the
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>I'm new to CoH and have some probably obvious questions.
>I'm not finding lots of good info on the net, at least not well
>localized.
>
>First is, what good guides are there out there? By good,
>I'm hoping for something similar to WoWWiki for WoW.
>I've seen Paragon Wiki but it's very incomplete, and doesn't
>have newbie advice, build advice, etc. Even the official site
>is very lacking in useful information. (it would be handy to
>see pictures of the powers to help decide what looks good)

Don't know about WoWWiki since I've never had any interest in WoW, but
there are numerous guides on the coh forums.

Here is the guide to guides thread with links:
http://boards.cityofvillains.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3765522&page...view=co

>When a group fights an enemy, do all members get
>inspirations, or does only one group member get one?
>How are inspirations and influence divided up? If there
>is a group, how is XP divided up? If my friend is a few
>levels higher than me, will I catch up to his level faster
>by soloing or grouping with him?

Been so long since I grouped (can't these days due to lag when grouped)
I can't answer this offhand.

>Is there anyway to chat with someone who isn't in
>your SG or friends list except by typing in the full
>name? Ie, if someone in a help tab asks for something,
>is there a quick way for me to respond, or do I have
>to type in the full "/tell Long Hero Name, ..."?

Well if you know they're online you can use the team search thing to
search for them (and that usually only needs a partial name), then click
on their name to send them a tell - if they reply you need only hit
backspace to reply to them.

>Is there a way to get a notification if one of my friends
>logs in or out?

That's already in there, for logins anyway.

>I've noticed that everytime I create or restart a character,
>that my keybindings and settings are all reset to the
>defaults. Can I make these stick somehow?

Yes and no.
Settings, no, keybindings, kinda;
There's no way in game to specify a set of keybindings and have them
used for all, but you can import/export.

1. Set things up the way you like
2. /bindsavefile filename
3. Should you happen to delete that character to restart, but want the
same keybindings
/bindloadfile filename

I've taken this to extremes of a sort, and bound F12 to load that
character's bindfile, so changing a bind is as easy as shelling out,
editing the file in notepad, saving, flipping back into coh, and hitting
F12 for the changes to be imported.

Makes it damn handy when I start yet again another alt, since I just
have to choose the binding file of the closest existing character, copy
it to the new character's name, edit it (power differences and of course
the F12 bind), and import it.

>What is common etiquette in the game? I've had lots
>of players randomly invite me to groups, without ever
>first asking me if it was OK. This is considered rude
>in some games, but maybe it's just culture shock and
>this is normal polite behavior in CoH?

It depends on the age of the players for the most part.
There are those that hate random invites (like me) and those who don't
care.

Older people tend to ask first (and not ask people who have invites
off.)
The younger set seem to feel they shouldn't waste their time before
sending an invite and don't seem to give a damn that it's rude since the
invite can popup in the middle of combat and may get the invitee killed.

Their time is too valuable to "waste" asking, your time needed to
decline is worthless to them.

Self centered little shits!
I have invites set to refuse, and still I get notices every now and then
that someone tried to invite.

That kind of player tends to be in a rush to get the most Xp possible in
the least amount of time so they're generally not much fun to play with
anyway.

>How much does it cost to redo costumes at ICON, when
>I get that high a level?

You can redo costumes at level 1 if you want to and can get to an ICON.

One word of advice: if you plan to edit the costume at low level do NOT
try to go to the ICON in Steel Canyon as you'll have a long run through
things much higher level that will almost certainly kill you (and the
hospital is in the south end while ICON is in the north end, so a death
will throw you back again.)

Instead, goes to King's Row and head over to the Independence Port gate.
The ICON in IP is all of 1 block from the gate and there aren't many
critters around, so it's easy to avoid them and get to ICON safely.

>Is it cheap enough that I can just
>not worry, or do I have to budget for it? I've restarted a
>character a few times just to change constumes a bit.

The price scales with level, so what costs a level 3 a few k will cost a
level 50 over a million.

>Are there more costume choices later, other than cloaks
>and wings? I've noticed character types that just don't seem
>to be possible with what I've seen at the start. Ie, werewolves.

There are a few costume options that come later - normal capes at level
20 once the mission is done, certain veteran rewards that come with time
subscribed (shoulder capes, angel/devil wings, samurai, and a few
others) and of course the inventable costume bits (all wings but
angel/devil and the 3 boots that can be made anytime you can get a
recipe.)
Much later (35+) you can get credit tokens fighting in the rikti war
zone that let you buy Vanguard armor pieces.

Werewolves types should be available at the start, since it's just a
head option. This was introduced with the release of CoV and may
require it - plain CoH might not get it. [Kinda hard for me to check
since I have both.]

Xocyll
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:12 pm
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On Aug 27, 8:57 pm, Robotech_Master <robot... DeleteThis @eyrie.org> wrote:
> Your best
> bet is to check the guides & faqs board on the official board,

I was hoping to avoid any and all "web forums" Smile
I'm an old usenet person, and I've never felt
good having to use a web forum.

> Also, if you click on someone's name in a list and
> hit 'comma,' a /tell heroname prompt will autopopulate.

If I see in one of the tabbed windows
"[Broadcast] SuperDave: I'm looking for someone to run
an experiment on", I can just click somewhere on
"SuperDave" and hit comma? When I've tried this before,
I got no feedback that the click had done anything.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:37 pm
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Somewhere, Darin Johnson wrote:
> If I see in one of the tabbed windows
> "[Broadcast] SuperDave: I'm looking for someone to run
> an experiment on", I can just click somewhere on
> "SuperDave" and hit comma? When I've tried this before,
> I got no feedback that the click had done anything.

No. Once you've started a conversation with someone, you can hit
Backspace to reply to them. There are actually two commands (one added a
few revisions into the game): one that lets you reply to the last person
who sent you a tell, and one that lets you reply to the last person you
sent a tell. This can be useful when you're, for example, soliciting for
a team buildup and you're getting tells from multiple players.

One quick-ish way to call up someone for a tell without typing in their
name is to type "/sea Joe" where 'Joe' is the first three letters or so
of their name. This will pop up the search window with just those
characters whose names begin with 'Joe' - very useful, especially when
the spelling is, uh, creative. You can then right-click on the name in
the list and click "Chat" to start a tell.

/sea is "search" and typing the slash will put you in the chat window
entry pane.

Not simple, but the best workaround I know of.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:57 pm
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:12:07 -0700, Darin Johnson <darin.TakeThisOut@usa.net> wrote:

> On Aug 27, 8:57 pm, Robotech_Master <robot....TakeThisOut@eyrie.org> wrote:

> > Your best bet is to check the guides & faqs board on the official
> > board,

> I was hoping to avoid any and all "web forums" Smile
> I'm an old usenet person, and I've never felt
> good having to use a web forum.

Well yes, me too--but I can tell you right now, if you don't start,
you're just cutting your nose to spite your face; that's where the
accumulated wisdom of CoH players of the ages ends up. 75% to 80% or
more of everything useful that's ever been written about City of
Heroes gameology is right there.

> If I see in one of the tabbed windows "[Broadcast] SuperDave: I'm
> looking for someone to run an experiment on", I can just click
> somewhere on "SuperDave" and hit comma? When I've tried this
> before, I got no feedback that the click had done anything.

Nope, it only works on a list, like on /search or a team list or a
supergroup list or a friends list. If it's responding to someone in
broadcast, you have to /tell them. Though you can at least shorten it
to /t and leave off the "ell" part. /t superdave,Sure, I'm up for
that.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:08 pm
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:37:04 -0000, Shenanigunner <nsp.DeleteThis@NOnitrosyncreticSPAM.com> wrote:

> There are actually two commands (one added a few revisions into the
> game): one that lets you reply to the last person who sent you a
> tell, and one that lets you reply to the last person you sent a
> tell.

What's the latter one? I'd never heard of that.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:15 pm
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Somewhere, Robotech_Master wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:37:04 -0000, Shenanigunner
> <nsp RemoveThis @NOnitrosyncreticSPAM.com> wrote:
>> There are actually two commands (one added a few revisions into the
>> game): one that lets you reply to the last person who sent you a
>> tell, and one that lets you reply to the last person you sent a
>> tell.

> What's the latter one? I'd never heard of that.

/reply starts a message to the last person you received a tell from.

/telllast starts a message to the last person you sent a tell.

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