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Since: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 34
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:10 pm
Post subject: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press Archived from groups: rec>games>diplomacy (more info?)
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This is an excerpt from the "training materials" that I use in my
novice games:
Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press
A complete treatment of press on the diplomacy judges in available in
the file "press" available from the judge with the get command - "get
press". This broadcast is intended to be an overview.
The most important thing to know about press is how to end it. Always
terminate press with the "endpress" and/or "signoff" commands. This is
important to avoid sending orders, press intended for other powers, or
even your password to the recipient of your press. There is no space in
endpress or signoff. You can send multiple press messages and orders in
one mail to the judge, but best practice is to split them up.
Also important is using the abbreviations *only* when sending press. At
one time "press to turkey" would send press not only to Turkey but also
Russia and England. The latest version of the judge, which USAK runs,
will return an error message instead of sending press when duplicate or
nonexistent powers are specified as recipients, but it may be possible
in variants or on other judges to send press to unintended recipients
when you spell out the name of the power.
You can specify powers to omit from a message instead of powers to send
a message to. Use "press to all but rtmo" if you want to spread a rumor
about the "Steam Roller" alliance, for example. The r and t are for
Russia and Turkey, m for Master (unless you want my attention on some
matter), and o for observer so that your press can't be read by using
the "history" command. Also, "press to all but o" is useful if you need
to direct something to all participants without airing 'dirty laundry'
in front of observers. I may not read broadcasts (and many GMs never
do), so using the "broadcast" command is not a good idea for matters
that require GM attention. I might reply to a broadcast, but you must
use the press command if you want to ensure that I read a post.
This and many other games support Grey (or anonymous) Press. To send an
anonymous message to Austria, for example, use "press to a grey". Note
that "grey" is spelled with an e. You will always be identified when
communicating with the GM. Send a test message to yourself before using
this feature to be sure that you understand it. The "grey" option also
works with broadcasts. Note that your email address will be revealeded
unless the game is anonymous.
It my observation that the more you send press to other powers, the more
likely you are to do well. Those who play press games as if they are No
Press get eliminated early...
Chris >> Stay informed about: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press |
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Since: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 34
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> Excellent, Chris, stated in a good way that notes the key points in
> order. The number one point about press IS the endpress command. It
> even is worth noting that it IS one word, endpress, not 'end press'
> as you do, as point number two. Very cool nuanced training document,
> all GMs should use this, I think.
Thank you. While I *think* that nJudge 1.7.6 will parse "end press" as
"endpress", the most active nJudge (USOS) was running 1.5.0 last I
checked so I think it's still important to use it as one word.
Interestingly enough, I have more trouble with trailing spaces than
interjected spaces. Because of the encoding scheme favored by Microsoft
products, a trailing space can cause "endpress" to be rendered by the
judge as "endpress=20". The result is often something like this:
endpress=20
signoff=20
------=_Part_109324_8027342.1174309132351
Content-Type: text/html; charset=Base64
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
<html>signon Egamename mypassword
Right now, USAL is the only nJudge I'm aware of that has filtering in
place to prevent that. Alan has generously offered to share the
scripts, but they're written in Procmail so they are not trivial to add
to the judge distribution - and those who have already climbed a
rather steep learning curve to install and to run the judge software
are not necessarily prepared to learn yet another obscure application.
I also left off my post here a a paragraph that I know needs to be
rewritten... The one where I threaten to boot a (novice) player if he
is late for spring '01 and hasn't sent any press yet.
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Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Chris Babcock <cbabcock DeleteThis @cox.net> writes:
Excellent, Chris, stated in a good way that notes the key points in order.
The number one point about press IS the endpress command. It even is
worth noting that it IS one word, endpress, not 'end press' as you do, as
point number two. Very cool nuanced training document, all GMs should use
this, I think.
Jim-Bob
>This is an excerpt from the "training materials" that I use in my
>novice games:
>Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press
>A complete treatment of press on the diplomacy judges in available in
>the file "press" available from the judge with the get command - "get
>press". This broadcast is intended to be an overview.
>The most important thing to know about press is how to end it. Always
>terminate press with the "endpress" and/or "signoff" commands. This is
>important to avoid sending orders, press intended for other powers, or
>even your password to the recipient of your press. There is no space in
>endpress or signoff. You can send multiple press messages and orders in
>one mail to the judge, but best practice is to split them up.
>Also important is using the abbreviations *only* when sending press. At
>one time "press to turkey" would send press not only to Turkey but also
>Russia and England. The latest version of the judge, which USAK runs,
>will return an error message instead of sending press when duplicate or
>nonexistent powers are specified as recipients, but it may be possible
>in variants or on other judges to send press to unintended recipients
>when you spell out the name of the power.
>You can specify powers to omit from a message instead of powers to send
>a message to. Use "press to all but rtmo" if you want to spread a rumor
>about the "Steam Roller" alliance, for example. The r and t are for
>Russia and Turkey, m for Master (unless you want my attention on some
>matter), and o for observer so that your press can't be read by using
>the "history" command. Also, "press to all but o" is useful if you need
>to direct something to all participants without airing 'dirty laundry'
>in front of observers. I may not read broadcasts (and many GMs never
>do), so using the "broadcast" command is not a good idea for matters
>that require GM attention. I might reply to a broadcast, but you must
>use the press command if you want to ensure that I read a post.
>This and many other games support Grey (or anonymous) Press. To send an
>anonymous message to Austria, for example, use "press to a grey". Note
>that "grey" is spelled with an e. You will always be identified when
>communicating with the GM. Send a test message to yourself before using
>this feature to be sure that you understand it. The "grey" option also
>works with broadcasts. Note that your email address will be revealeded
>unless the game is anonymous.
>It my observation that the more you send press to other powers, the more
>likely you are to do well. Those who play press games as if they are No
>Press get eliminated early...
>Chris >> Stay informed about: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press |
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Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Chris Babcock <cbabcock DeleteThis @cox.net> writes:
>> Excellent, Chris, stated in a good way that notes the key points in
>> order. The number one point about press IS the endpress command. It
>> even is worth noting that it IS one word, endpress, not 'end press'
>> as you do, as point number two. Very cool nuanced training document,
>> all GMs should use this, I think.
>Thank you. While I *think* that nJudge 1.7.6 will parse "end press" as
>"endpress", the most active nJudge (USOS) was running 1.5.0 last I
>checked so I think it's still important to use it as one word.
>Interestingly enough, I have more trouble with trailing spaces than
>interjected spaces. Because of the encoding scheme favored by Microsoft
>products, a trailing space can cause "endpress" to be rendered by the
>judge as "endpress=20". The result is often something like this:
> endpress=20
> signoff=20
> ------=_Part_109324_8027342.1174309132351
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=Base64
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: inline
> <html>signon Egamename mypassword
Ah, hahaha, yes, I still do my newsgroup reading and much of my E-Mail in
text based UNIX and I have this same problem occasionally, but I have ONLY
experienced it in reading, I've never had a message I've composed in elm
and sent have this happen on the sending end, at least not that I know of.
Jim-Bob
>Right now, USAL is the only nJudge I'm aware of that has filtering in
>place to prevent that. Alan has generously offered to share the
>scripts, but they're written in Procmail so they are not trivial to add
>to the judge distribution - and those who have already climbed a
>rather steep learning curve to install and to run the judge software
>are not necessarily prepared to learn yet another obscure application.
>I also left off my post here a a paragraph that I know needs to be
>rewritten... The one where I threaten to boot a (novice) player if he
>is late for spring '01 and hasn't sent any press yet.
>Chris >> Stay informed about: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press |
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Since: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 34
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> >Interestingly enough, I have more trouble with trailing spaces than
> >interjected spaces. Because of the encoding scheme favored by
> >Microsoft products, a trailing space can cause "endpress" to be
> >rendered by the judge as "endpress=20". The result is often
> >something like this:
>
> > endpress=20
> > signoff=20
> > ------=_Part_109324_8027342.1174309132351
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=Base64
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > Content-Disposition: inline
> > <html>signon Egamename mypassword
>
> Ah, hahaha, yes, I still do my newsgroup reading and much of my
> E-Mail in text based UNIX and I have this same problem occasionally,
> but I have ONLY experienced it in reading, I've never had a message
> I've composed in elm and sent have this happen on the sending end, at
> least not that I know of.
It's not going to happen with Mutt, Elm, Pine or any other text-mode
*nix mail program. It's not likely to happen with Claws, Kmail or
Mozilla, either. Although Claws and Thunderbird are both capable of
writing as well as reading the problematic combination of the encoding
scheme with "multipart/alternative" mime, it is not the default
behavior. It's always Microsoft Exchange Server, which is at the heart
of Hotmail and a number of corporate webmail applications, or mail
clients like Outlook. I can't remember a single occurrence of this
issue where I looked at the mail headers and didn't see "Microsoft".
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Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 329
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Novice Tutorial #1 - Understanding Press [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Chris Babcock <cbabcock.TakeThisOut@cox.net> writes:
>> >Interestingly enough, I have more trouble with trailing spaces than
>> >interjected spaces. Because of the encoding scheme favored by
>> >Microsoft products, a trailing space can cause "endpress" to be
>> >rendered by the judge as "endpress=20". The result is often
>> >something like this:
>>
>> > endpress=20
>> > signoff=20
>> > ------=_Part_109324_8027342.1174309132351
>> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=Base64
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> > Content-Disposition: inline
>> > <html>signon Egamename mypassword
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>> Ah, hahaha, yes, I still do my newsgroup reading and much of my
>> E-Mail in text based UNIX and I have this same problem occasionally,
>> but I have ONLY experienced it in reading, I've never had a message
>> I've composed in elm and sent have this happen on the sending end, at
>> least not that I know of.
>It's not going to happen with Mutt, Elm, Pine or any other text-mode
>*nix mail program. It's not likely to happen with Claws, Kmail or
>Mozilla, either. Although Claws and Thunderbird are both capable of
>writing as well as reading the problematic combination of the encoding
>scheme with "multipart/alternative" mime, it is not the default
>behavior. It's always Microsoft Exchange Server, which is at the heart
>of Hotmail and a number of corporate webmail applications, or mail
>clients like Outlook. I can't remember a single occurrence of this
>issue where I looked at the mail headers and didn't see "Microsoft".
>Chris
Of course, I see, it is in fact the reverse problem where I am reading the
text from a Microsoft based server. Thanks,
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