Northern Ireland Not Represented in FSX?? Why not?

On Feb 19, 11:23 pm, RobertVA <robert_c72athotm... DeleteThis @invalid.net> wrote:

> Possibly because Northern Ireland isn't a country (nation/state), being
> part of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland?- Hide quoted text -
>

I'll buy that........but why is Belfast not listed when Ireland is
chosen from the list of cities?

A
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SnakeEyes wrote:
> On Feb 19, 8:26 pm, "MikeW" <Mi....TakeThisOut@spammenot.con> wrote:
>
>> Just thought I would sneak that in before Ibby.
>>
>> Too many fish n' chips makes you go blind Arthur
>> --
>
> Too much fish n chips gives me a tummy ache but I eat it anyway : )
>
> Ireland is listed in my countries. Fine. North Ireland is not in my
> list of countries. Not fine. Ergo, Belfast is not listed.
>
> How am I supposed to know the names of the airports in North Ireland
> if North Ireland is not in the list of countries and Belfast isn't in
> my list of cities??? Huh??? If I knew the ICAO codes for the
> airports, I would likely find them, but I shouldn't need to know them
> for Belfast.
>
> I flew all over the jungles of South America, dodged parrots, fought
> with monkeys, struggled with snakes and still found every
> airport.....but North Ireland.....noooooooo.
>
> Arthur
> (Snow blinded in Canada)

Possibly because Northern Ireland isn't a country (nation/state), being
part of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland?
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"SnakeEyes" <agalspector.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why isn't Northern Ireland represented in FSX? I wanted to fly to
>

Belfast City EGAC and (Belfast) Aldergrove EGAA are both on my FSX list of
airports.

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David
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SnakeEyes wrote:
> Why isn't Northern Ireland represented in FSX? I wanted to fly to
> Belfast IFR and it didn't show up in the list of cities. I flew up
> there VFR from Dublin in a 172 and landed at Belfast Airport which was
> quite nice and wondered why I couldn't fly up there IFR using FSX.
>

I have just had a look at FSX, first time for months, and Aldergrove
EGAA is there. This is the main airport for NI and it is, IRL, split in
two. Half military and half civilian. Belfast city EGAC is also listed.

Just thought I would sneak that in before Ibby.

Too many fish n' chips makes you go blind Arthur
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MikeW
Shrewsbury, UK.
If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the "terminal"?.
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"SnakeEyes" <agalspector.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 19, 11:23 pm, RobertVA <robert_c72athotm....RemoveThis@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> Possibly because Northern Ireland isn't a country (nation/state), being
>> part of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland?- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>
> I'll buy that........but why is Belfast not listed when Ireland is
> chosen from the list of cities?
>
> A
> \

Belfast is in North Ireland , not Ireland and Northern Ireland is a part of
Great Britain. So I would not expect Belfast to be listed under Ireland

Bill


>
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On Feb 20, 12:36 am, SnakeEyes <agalspec... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Why isn't Northern Ireland represented in FSX?  I wanted to fly to
> Belfast IFR and it didn't show up in the list of cities.  I flew up
> there VFR from Dublin in a 172 and landed at Belfast Airport which was
> quite nice and wondered why I couldn't fly up there IFR using FSX.
>
> Go figure........
>
> Arthur
> (Canada)

Hi Arthur,

As a NI resident I can certainly confirm that both Aldergrove
(International) and Belfast City are on the map.
You have perhaps forgotten about the border. Ireland in FSX or FS9
covers the Republic of Ireland and both the aforementioned airports
are located within UK.

I have an add-on with puts the famous Harland and Wolfe Cranes
adjacent to the City Airport. Titanic was off course constructed
here. I The download is available from Avsim, its for FS2002 but
still works in FSX. The Mourne Mountains which famously 'Sweep' down
to the sea are 30 miles south west of Belfast City Airport

Ibby
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> I have just had a look at FSX, first time  for months, and  Aldergrove
> EGAA is there. This is the main airport for NI and it is, IRL, split in
> two. Half military and half civilian. Belfast city EGAC is also listed.
>
> Just thought I would sneak that in before Ibby.
>

Well you did beat me Mike as I have been slow at getting on here
today.
Too busy at work to sneak a peek on the net ;-(

I'm glad you said that about the runways as I always thought runway
35/17 was military as RAF Aldergrove is on the opposite side of the
airfield to the commercial airport. Despite all this FS ATC quite
often directs me to this runway ;-(

Ibby
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Dont panic Arthur,

Belfast is still (as far as I know as I pay my taxes to the British
Government)) still part of the UK so select that as a country first.

Ibby
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> I'll buy that........but why is Belfast not listed when Ireland is
> chosen from the list of cities?
>
> A

Belfast hasnt been part of Ireland for over 300 years!
Hence all the Troubles in the 60s, 70, 80s and 90s

We are governed by Direct Rule from London and thankfully within the
last few years from Stormont in Belfast which has a joint executive
setup with the main Unionist (Protestant) and Nationist (Catholic)
political parties power sharing. This has given us some control on
local events as before we had very little say as a voter.

Ibby
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On Feb 20, 6:53 am, "MikeW" <Mi....TakeThisOut@spammenot.con> wrote:
.
>
> So, if you want to select Aldergrove or Belfast in the flight Sim you
> will find them under The United Kingdom. If you wanted to select Shannon
> airport you would find it under Ireland. Clear as mud, eh
>
> God! I hope Dallas doesn't read this post, he doesn't even know what a
> pram is!

Many thanks, gentlemen. Your explanations are clear as glass. I'm
really good at geography but occasionally politics gets in the way. I
think by the weekend, I'll be out of the U.K. and into France, where
nothing has changed since the Romans were in charge.

Don't worry about Dallas.......if he doesn't know, he
asks.....often : )

Arthur
(Toronto, Canada)
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On Feb 20, 9:58 am, Ibby <cjibbot... RemoveThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> As a NI resident I can certainly confirm that both Aldergrove
> (International) and Belfast City are on the map.
> You have perhaps forgotten about the border.  Ireland in FSX or FS9
> covers the Republic of Ireland and both the aforementioned airports
> are located within UK.
>

> Ibby

Many thanks, Ibby. I have a really good Oxford Atlas by my side
whenever I fly in places other than Toronto, and it clearly shows the
political markings of the Emerald Isle. It was my fault for not
checking the United Kingdom in the 'countries' drop-down menu on
FSX....it just didn't occur to me to do so, and I spent about 15
minutes trying to figure out why I couldn't find any airports in North
Ireland. Thanks to help I've received here, I've since found what
I've been looking for.

I must say that FSX presents the countryside in Ireland beautifully as
well as the air fields and I did see the mountains south of Belfast
while dodging them at low altitude in my 172. Ireland is well-
named....it's beautiful, green landscape is a joy to behold (I set the
season for summer and time for midday since I'm sightseeing and not
testing my flying skills). So many of the folks I worked with during
my life have been from the U.K., I feel a special kinship to the
countries. It is indeed a pleasure to see the sites there using the
sim, as I know I won't be seeing them IRL. FSX is, for me, the next
best thing.

Once again, gentlemen, many thanks for your help.

Arthur
(Toronto, Canada)
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SnakeEyes wrote:
> On Feb 19, 11:23 pm, RobertVA <robert_c72athotm....RemoveThis@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> Possibly because Northern Ireland isn't a country (nation/state),
>> being
>> part of the United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland?-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>
> I'll buy that........but why is Belfast not listed when Ireland is
> chosen from the list of cities?

I think I can see your problem Arthur, and I will try and explain,
hopefully without muddying the waters further.

1. The British Isles. This covers England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland
(North and South) and all the surrounding islands.
2. The UK. This covers the same as above, less Southern Ireland, which
is a state in it's own right.
3. Ireland. The island of Ireland is split into two. Northern Ireland is
part of the UK, Southern Ireland is a separate country/state.

So, if you want to select Aldergrove or Belfast in the flight Sim you
will find them under The United Kingdom. If you wanted to select Shannon
airport you would find it under Ireland. Clear as mud, eh

God! I hope Dallas doesn't read this post, he doesn't even know what a
pram is!
--
MikeW
Shrewsbury, UK.
If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger, if you pull the
stick back they get smaller.
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:53:37 -0000, MikeW wrote:

> God! I hope Dallas doesn't read this post, he doesn't even know what a
> pram is!

Sure I do!

It's a boat:

präm
NOUN: 1. Chiefly New England A small dinghy having a flat, snub-nosed bow.
2. A flatbottom boat used chiefly in the Baltic Sea as a barge.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/22/P0502200.html
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Dallas
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