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Sean Huxter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:25 am
Post subject: Question from a Noob: Inform 6 or Inform 7?
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I'm a long-time IF fan. Played "Infidel" in 1983, and tore through many
INFOCOM games in the 80s and 90s.

I wrote one IF game back in 1984, in BASIC on a Commodore 64. Standard "verb
noun" parser, and was fun to do, and a fun game to play.

But I'm interested in getting into Inform, and writing new IF.

Which version of Inform would you recommend for someone just starting out
with the whole Inform language? Inform 6 or Inform 7?

Thanks!

Sean.

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Jim Aikin

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:25 am
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Sean Huxter wrote:
> I'm a long-time IF fan. Played "Infidel" in 1983, and tore through many
> INFOCOM games in the 80s and 90s.
>
> I wrote one IF game back in 1984, in BASIC on a Commodore 64. Standard "verb
> noun" parser, and was fun to do, and a fun game to play.
>
> But I'm interested in getting into Inform, and writing new IF.
>
> Which version of Inform would you recommend for someone just starting out
> with the whole Inform language? Inform 6 or Inform 7?

They are completely different animals. The fact that both are called
"Inform" is more misleading, to someone in your shoes, than helpful.

If you already have a bit of programming experience (perhaps something
beyond BASIC) you may find Inform 6 more familiar in its syntax. It uses
brackets and flags and objects and variables and methods and such things.

Conversely, if you would feel at sea with C or jangled by Java, Inform 7
might be a better choice due to its "natural language" programming
interface. (In point of fact, it's _not_ a natural language interface,
but it has some of the features of natural language.)

Another factor to weigh is that I6 is mature, while I7 is still in
development and thus subject, from time to time, to significant changes.

They're both good. Have fun!

--Jim Aikin

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David Fisher

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:48 pm
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"Sean Huxter" <sean.huxter.TakeThisOut@SPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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> Which version of Inform would you recommend for someone just starting out
> with the whole Inform language? Inform 6 or Inform 7?

One way to compare them is to take a look at the code for Roger Firth's
"Cloak of Darkness" sample game, which you can get here (click on
"download"):

http://www.firthworks.com/roger/cloak/inform/index.html

"Cloak.inf" is the Inform 6 version, and "story.ni" is the Inform 7 one.

(The rec.arts.int-fiction newsgroup is a good place to ask about IF
programming, BTW).

David Fisher
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Sean Huxter

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:48 pm
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"David Fisher" <davidfisher.TakeThisOut@australiaonline.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Sean Huxter" <sean.huxter.TakeThisOut@SPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:FEaqj.3223$lr3.2842@trndny06...
>>
>> Which version of Inform would you recommend for someone just starting out
>> with the whole Inform language? Inform 6 or Inform 7?
>
> One way to compare them is to take a look at the code for Roger Firth's
> "Cloak of Darkness" sample game, which you can get here (click on
> "download"):
>
> http://www.firthworks.com/roger/cloak/inform/index.html
>
> "Cloak.inf" is the Inform 6 version, and "story.ni" is the Inform 7 one.
>
> (The rec.arts.int-fiction newsgroup is a good place to ask about IF
> programming, BTW).
>
> David Fisher
>

Thanks for the info.

So as a newbie, would you say rec.arts.int-fiction is more the developers'
group, while rec.games.int-fiction is more the players? Or how does it work?
(I'm subscribed to both, but haven't had much time to peruse the currently
available postings yet.)

In the meantime, I'll post the same question to the other group, and see
what I can find out.

Thanks!

Sean.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:49 am
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"Sean Huxter" <sean.huxter DeleteThis @SPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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> So as a newbie, would you say rec.arts.int-fiction is more the developers'
> group, while rec.games.int-fiction is more the players?

Yes, that's right. RGIF is a great place to ask for hints about specific
games.

You can see the kinds of topics that have been discussed on RAIF at:

http://www.ifwiki.org/index.php/Past_raif_topics

.... including some answers to your original question about which IF language
is the "best":

http://www.ifwiki.org/index.php/Past_raif_topics:_Development:_part_1#...horing_

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