In article <fb9s4f$969$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
relkins.TakeThisOut@u.washington.edu says...
> I bought the Nids BF box yesterday, and after having studied the codex for
> many moons, I have a pretty good idea of how I want to kit-out each FOC
> choice. That being said, I'd still like any advice youse guys might have
> regarding combos to avoid/really consider taking. I'm wanting a fast, HtH
> army with good "hvy weps" support.
>
> 8 gaunts w/ adrenal glands, fleshborer, W/O Number
To few, and honestly - to expensive. A 6 point Gant with a
fleshborer is a superb value. I never beef them up, and rarely take
'without numbers' and still get great milage out of them in a typical
game. As damn cheap as they are, they still have the potential to knock
out AV 10 vehicles (like damn annoying skimmers) with glancing hits. I
tend to take blocks of 20 or more. (Sometimes max sized squads are
hard to get entirely into cover so keep that in mind.) Sure they're
going to drop like flies when the bolter rounds start flying, but that's
their job. And at 6 points each, losing a squad of 20 isn't that costly
in the VPs.
> 8 gaunts w/ scything talons and ?
These get costly very quickly, and they're still fragile so I don't tend
to beef mine up to much. Toxin Sacs and Extended Carapace increase
their HTH ability (at 13 pts per bug) and give them slightly better
survival rate in HTH without being over-priced. Tend to field units of
14 to 20 or so. Large units with costly bio-morphs are simply VPs on a
platter waiting for your opponent to harvest them with template fire.
> 3 warriors - venom cannons and scything talons
In case you didn't realize it - you can only take one Venom Cannon or
Barbed Strangler armed warrior per brood. That said, putting a VC
armed warrior with some deathspitter armed brood mates is a fine tactic.
(I'd also suggest giving them rending claws instead of Talons - you can
use the talons that come on the sprue, and if anyone complains point out
the illustration of 'The Huntsman' in the codex which is armed with
rending and has 'talons' in the picture.) The rending will give you a
chance for insta-kill against even tough foes like marines, and allow
for a small chance of peeling open heavy armor in a pinch.
> 8 stealers - need help here, I want HtH, making the enemy soil their
> trousers-types.
My fav for this is simply extended carapace which gives them a save
against bolter fire, and Scything talons for the extra attack. They're
expensive (24 points each), but they'll tool almost anything in HTH and
even peel open Land Raiders with decent rolling.
> Fex - Can't decide btwn anti-vehicle/elite/HQ killer or some sort of
> stand-off troop killer.
This is one model you should take the time to do a conversion on. The
newest plastic version is ideal for magnetic arm conversions which allow
you to field *pretty much any* version you want. I'm finishing painting
up my 3rd plastic fex with magnets. Even my older 3rd Ed metal ones
have magnets. You shouldn't be stuck with just one or two choices -
spend a little extra time and effort and get a LOT more milage out of
your Carnifex model. Also, if you don't have a copy of "Yakk-face's
Carnifex Tactica" (Yak-face of Dakka Dakka fame) let me know and I'll
email it to you. It's one of the best looks at the Carnifex and the
various bio-morphs that I've seen - period.
>
> And other than another box of gaunts, what would you suggest as the next
> addition? I was thinking either a Hive Tyrant or Broodlord.
>
Look for gaunts and especially termigants on Ebay on the cheap. I've
got butt-loads (like 160+ gants), but mine are all the older 2nd Ed
plastics and metals. (I like them as they look like 6 point models, and
I use the newer ones for the other varients.)
If I were you I'd go with a Hive Tyrant. It's got a fair bit of staying
power and tends to be more of a 'generalist' unit where the Brood Lord
is more of a speciality unit. Again, with a bit of effort, magnetic
limbs for the Tyrant are doable and allow you to field different
configurations without going broke. (The other reason is that the new
metal Tyrant is a far far better looking mini than the 'bleeding eye-
sore' that is the Brood Lord mini.) If you're dying to do a brood lord,
then I'd suggest you see if you can find a copy of the Inquisitor scale
Gene-stealer and use that mini as your Brood Lord. I saw someone else
do this and it was far and away better looking.
So, you need more Gants & Gaunts, a Tyrant, and after that I'd go for
more warriors. Then you can consider some Zoans or a Lictor or bio-
vores.
Hope that helps,
Myr
--
All good (color) choices, but they don't carry the impact of the #7
"Over-ripe bananagaunt." Nothing says fear the tyranids like slightly
aged fruit.
-Maka
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